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Ryanair Loosing South Coast Passengers
It is stated in the Local Bournemouth Echo Newspaper that Ryanair is slashing its winter capacity at UK
airports by nearly 16% with Stansted around 17%
Passengers are frustrated as the airline has not uploaded the winter
schedules from Bournemouth as the spokesperson of Ryanair said they are
unsure when they would upload the schedules.
Ryanair are concerned that the UK traffic and tourism continues to collapse
whereas Ryanair continues to grow abroad. They are concerned about UK
tourist tax or airport departure tax.
Ryanair are switching unneeded aircraft from London to European bases due to
less tax costs abroad.
As it says in the Echo - paper version.
airports by nearly 16% with Stansted around 17%
Passengers are frustrated as the airline has not uploaded the winter
schedules from Bournemouth as the spokesperson of Ryanair said they are
unsure when they would upload the schedules.
Ryanair are concerned that the UK traffic and tourism continues to collapse
whereas Ryanair continues to grow abroad. They are concerned about UK
tourist tax or airport departure tax.
Ryanair are switching unneeded aircraft from London to European bases due to
less tax costs abroad.
As it says in the Echo - paper version.
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O'Leary spewing the usual publicity-seeking garbage - toilet fees, flying standing-up. Bit surprised the Express did not go for the Princess Diana to fly standing-up in Ryanair angle. Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Stand up and fly for a fiver
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I don't see the benefit of installing these vertical seats on ALL aircrafts though, as on all flights +1h they couldn't be sold.
BUT, if that would ever be allowed and turned out to be a reality I wouldn't mind on under 1h flights for around 5€ as stated.
BUT, if that would ever be allowed and turned out to be a reality I wouldn't mind on under 1h flights for around 5€ as stated.
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Has EDI-SNN been dropped for Winter ? Appears to be unbookable.
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Kerry-Weeze started today.
Henrike Schmidt, Sales & Marketing Manager from Ryanair stated that:
a) it was the first destination from Weeze to the West of Ireland - a pity she forgot that Shannon had been a previous destination from Weeze
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b) the Kerry region is always worth a visit in the summer or winter - again a pity she doesn't know that the route is not been flown for the winter
Great that the Henrike knows what her employer is at
Henrike Schmidt, Sales & Marketing Manager from Ryanair stated that:
a) it was the first destination from Weeze to the West of Ireland - a pity she forgot that Shannon had been a previous destination from Weeze
and
b) the Kerry region is always worth a visit in the summer or winter - again a pity she doesn't know that the route is not been flown for the winter
Great that the Henrike knows what her employer is at
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Don't make too many assumptions about the winter timetable just yet
Hi Jamie,
Do you know that for sure, or are you using the booking engine as your source?
It is possible that Hahn - Kerry will go into winter hibernation, but at the moment we're only in the beginning of July and the winter season (which starts at end of October) is a long, long way away.
Ryanair will almost certainly tweak their winter schedules time and time again over the next couple of months (although other airlines do this too).
If a route is still unbookable at the beginning of September then we can be pretty sure that it won't be operating over the winter. Until then, it's probably best not to make too many assumptions.
It has been known for routes to be withdrawn from sale and then to be put back on sale again. Some cynics might even suggest that this is a Ryanair "negotiating" technique.
Do you know that for sure, or are you using the booking engine as your source?
It is possible that Hahn - Kerry will go into winter hibernation, but at the moment we're only in the beginning of July and the winter season (which starts at end of October) is a long, long way away.
Ryanair will almost certainly tweak their winter schedules time and time again over the next couple of months (although other airlines do this too).
If a route is still unbookable at the beginning of September then we can be pretty sure that it won't be operating over the winter. Until then, it's probably best not to make too many assumptions.
It has been known for routes to be withdrawn from sale and then to be put back on sale again. Some cynics might even suggest that this is a Ryanair "negotiating" technique.
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I under stand this but if a route is operating it will shopw as operating but the day and times won't be up yet for example go to Ryanair.com and look at the Bournemouth routes and they show they are operating but the dys of service and the times havnt been confirmed yet.
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Winter 2010/11
Jamie2k9
Using that theory would have announced three weeks ago that BHX-Katowice was ending in October but today it is released at twice weekly for winter.
I know what you mean that you can tell if a route is under review or about to be released by the way it is displayed in the booking engine. Believe BHX-KTW was not like that it had gone but only a few weeks later it is back.
Bydgoszcz however still shows the aircraft in the circle and this after three weeks - will it operate will it not?
As anna_list has said very much work in progress.
Pete
Using that theory would have announced three weeks ago that BHX-Katowice was ending in October but today it is released at twice weekly for winter.
I know what you mean that you can tell if a route is under review or about to be released by the way it is displayed in the booking engine. Believe BHX-KTW was not like that it had gone but only a few weeks later it is back.
Bydgoszcz however still shows the aircraft in the circle and this after three weeks - will it operate will it not?
As anna_list has said very much work in progress.
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I'm still dying to know why I can book Dublin to Malaga from Nov 2010 to March 2011 but can't book Malaga to Dublin Nov 2010 to March 2011 except for 5 days over Xmas Low Fares My Ass where's the normal PR crap from MOL about low fares!!!!
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As Ryanair have a base in Malaga they havn't yet decided if the aircraft to operate DUB - Malaga flights will come from there Malaga Base or there Dublin Base. I would give it about 2 - 3 weeks as I was trying to book flights to Pisa and I was able book the outbound but not the inbound. Around 3 weeks lather I was able to book in both directions. FR are in the middle of putting there winter timetable up on there website.
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Does anybody know what actual routes from Stansted have been cancelled this winter.
I was hoping to go skiing to Bareges, near Lourdes, and Lourdes isnt in the system yet. Has it gone ?
I was hoping to go skiing to Bareges, near Lourdes, and Lourdes isnt in the system yet. Has it gone ?
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No Aer Lingus for Ryanair
The Court of Justice of the European Union has ruled that Ryanair can't take over Aer Lingus (upholding an earlier decision of the European Commission) - but they also decided that FR doesn't have to divest itself of the 19% of EI that it already owns.
http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/d...cp100072en.pdf
http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/d...cp100072en.pdf
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If FR cannot fulfill its ambition to take over Aer Lingus, do you think they will continue to hold on to their current shareholding, or will this be sold off in the short or medium term.
There is an argument to say that given that the court has decided that it does not have authority to order Ryanair to sell its stake in Aer Lingus as the stake is considered only a minority shareholding, that Ryanair may well decide to hang on to those shares so as to substanstially weaken one of its main rivals.
With the Govt's 25% and the staff 12.5% of the shares, Ryanair's 30% stake means that any other commercial company would be loath to get involved in Aer Lingus - there are just too many interested parties with very sizeable stakes to push anything through. Whether the Govt would consider selling most of its stake in a year or two's time, I don't know
Thus, if Ryanair holds onto the Aer Lingus stake, and doesn't need the money for any other purpose (and Ryanair shareholders seem remarkably docile on this), then this will end up just grinding Aer Lingus down. While not impossible, it makes consolidation with any other large airline group (e.g. AF-KL) less likely, and the general sense of fear, uncertainty and doubt over Aer Lingus' future may well dissuade other parties from getting involved. Would you buy shares in a company where the board is not the master of its own destiny ?
Essentially, Ryanair keeping its 30% equity stake means that Aer Lingus is put into a limbo like state. Manageable for a while, but long term can only lead to decline.
With the Govt's 25% and the staff 12.5% of the shares, Ryanair's 30% stake means that any other commercial company would be loath to get involved in Aer Lingus - there are just too many interested parties with very sizeable stakes to push anything through. Whether the Govt would consider selling most of its stake in a year or two's time, I don't know
Thus, if Ryanair holds onto the Aer Lingus stake, and doesn't need the money for any other purpose (and Ryanair shareholders seem remarkably docile on this), then this will end up just grinding Aer Lingus down. While not impossible, it makes consolidation with any other large airline group (e.g. AF-KL) less likely, and the general sense of fear, uncertainty and doubt over Aer Lingus' future may well dissuade other parties from getting involved. Would you buy shares in a company where the board is not the master of its own destiny ?
Essentially, Ryanair keeping its 30% equity stake means that Aer Lingus is put into a limbo like state. Manageable for a while, but long term can only lead to decline.
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Just to add to David J's points above, Aer Lingus is hugely unattractive to any purchaser. 55% of its shares are held by persons that a purchaser would not want on its own share register, namely the Irish State and Ryanair. The Irish State would dearly love to sell its stake, as it's so desperate for cash right now (all State and semi-State bodies are potentially up for sale). However, which airline would want, or could afford, to make an offer at least 55% in cash (I'm assuming all other shareholders would accept a 100% share swap - very unlikely actually)? Even if there is an airline that would do this, which one could obtain the necessary funding?
Ryanair has already written down its Aer Lingus holding to current market value. As and when the Irish economy improves, and air travel does so in tandem, Ryanair will write back its losses. Ryanair shareholders are pretty sanguine about the losses, I suspect. If nothing else, Ryanair protected itself against competition in one of its key markets (remember when it first bought the shares Ireland was booming and a "proper" owner of Aer Lingus could have provided a challenge to Ryanair). Keeping hold of 30% gives Ryanair a de facto veto on where the Irish State's holding eventually ends up.
I still think Aer Lingus' entire future looks dubious. They've virtually no presence outside Ireland, Ryanair's presence in all its facets makes attracting strategic partners very difficult, and the 25% State ownership causes its own challenges, both in terms of ownership and EU competition/aid rules. Very hard to see how Aer Lingus can remain as anything other than a shrunken reminder of a bygone era in airline management. If Aer Lingus disappeared, would anyone actually notice?
Ryanair has already written down its Aer Lingus holding to current market value. As and when the Irish economy improves, and air travel does so in tandem, Ryanair will write back its losses. Ryanair shareholders are pretty sanguine about the losses, I suspect. If nothing else, Ryanair protected itself against competition in one of its key markets (remember when it first bought the shares Ireland was booming and a "proper" owner of Aer Lingus could have provided a challenge to Ryanair). Keeping hold of 30% gives Ryanair a de facto veto on where the Irish State's holding eventually ends up.
I still think Aer Lingus' entire future looks dubious. They've virtually no presence outside Ireland, Ryanair's presence in all its facets makes attracting strategic partners very difficult, and the 25% State ownership causes its own challenges, both in terms of ownership and EU competition/aid rules. Very hard to see how Aer Lingus can remain as anything other than a shrunken reminder of a bygone era in airline management. If Aer Lingus disappeared, would anyone actually notice?
I am sure the several thousand employees, their families,the government who receive millions in taxes every year which is used to pay for the services which you enjoy and the 10 million pax they carried would notice.
I am also sure that whatever business you are in would suffer due to less Irish customers buying its goods or services.So while you are not a fan of Aer Lingus,which is your choice,The benefits of its survival to the Irish economy must be clear now, even to you.
I am also sure that whatever business you are in would suffer due to less Irish customers buying its goods or services.So while you are not a fan of Aer Lingus,which is your choice,The benefits of its survival to the Irish economy must be clear now, even to you.