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Our Travel Agent is a well respected local with many years experience and has in our opinion, great knowledge of what's going on within the industry. So if what he told us is based on his "own spare time informed judgement" or indeed information from within the industry I just don't know. However whilst we where in the Shop he did bring up our proposed Cruise on the system and whilst flights have been contracted from Newcastle and Manchester, Teesside was ommitted. We could of course book our own flights to Barcelona from Teesside separately from our Cruise Holiday but that would leave us out on a limb in the event of flight delays (ships won't wait) or god forbid, Airport closure.
Personnally. I have found that for many years local Travel Agents have had to be poked and cajoled into even looking at Teesside as a possibility.
I can remember being in Callers Pegasus Flight Desk in Stockton enquiring about flights to Toronto. The guy immediately suggested Newcastle / Amsterdam / Toronto. "What about Teesside" I said, after all it's only 6 miles from my house !!. "Oh yes we can have a look". We flew from Teesside !!. Even back then it almost seemed like there was a conspiracy against Teesside.
Personnally. I have found that for many years local Travel Agents have had to be poked and cajoled into even looking at Teesside as a possibility.
I can remember being in Callers Pegasus Flight Desk in Stockton enquiring about flights to Toronto. The guy immediately suggested Newcastle / Amsterdam / Toronto. "What about Teesside" I said, after all it's only 6 miles from my house !!. "Oh yes we can have a look". We flew from Teesside !!. Even back then it almost seemed like there was a conspiracy against Teesside.
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does anyone know who the new director at DTVA. I dont. I think we should try to get the likes of ryanair, easyjet or jet2 in. Offer them cheaper fees and take the PFF off for them and you will soon see the benefits, Even 8-10 ryanair flights a week. 8 flights would mean 1512 pax. Its worth getting one LCC. Could just work
David Crosby:
Ryanair used to fly from MME to Alicante, Dublin and Gerona - possibly other airports as well.
Easyjet and Jet2 already have bases at Newcastle
What should MME do to entice Ryanair to return, or to give U2 / LS a reason to split their operation in the North East between 2 airports ? Would need to be something pretty significant (e.g. some hefty 'marketing' payment to FR) - I doubt reduced airport fees will suffice.
Ryanair used to fly from MME to Alicante, Dublin and Gerona - possibly other airports as well.
Easyjet and Jet2 already have bases at Newcastle
What should MME do to entice Ryanair to return, or to give U2 / LS a reason to split their operation in the North East between 2 airports ? Would need to be something pretty significant (e.g. some hefty 'marketing' payment to FR) - I doubt reduced airport fees will suffice.
DTV-Passengers on Wednesday
The airlines have been told to cut the passengers in half that they carry in to UK airports on wednesday.
Apparently DTVairport are still trying to contact the two KLM passengers due in and ask them to spin up to see who will be the unlucky one!!
Apparently DTVairport are still trying to contact the two KLM passengers due in and ask them to spin up to see who will be the unlucky one!!
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Just been on the KLM Website looking at flights from Teesside to Bergen. Depart Sat 3rd Dec, Return Sat 10th Dec.
Teesside comes in at NOK 5012, Newcastle costs NOK 2329. Very similar departure times. Flight times using Newcastle slightly longer. So why the hell is Teesside so much more expensive.
Teesside comes in at NOK 5012, Newcastle costs NOK 2329. Very similar departure times. Flight times using Newcastle slightly longer. So why the hell is Teesside so much more expensive.
Trouble at DTV
More bad press today as the one KLM passenger returned to Amsterdam ,he was quoted as saying the departure tax was a joke and he would be writing to KLM to complain.He also said he didnt like the attitude of the staff member who wrote down his concern....ironically this only happened when he signed his name on the complaints form...Hans Ova Tacks,Arnheim.
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Where is the BMI compensation money.
Reference the BMI compensation millions. It was paid to Peel who are waiting for the next stage of their master plan. Did anyone from the councils see the money????
Sheffield was the first regional field to go under Peels governance after being purchased in 2002. Its now a business park.
Watch this space as the plans have already been drawn up for the what will be built on the old runway. Will it be extra council tax from new houses and business units being planned.
Stage one will be a small Wynard followed by an Ingelby Barwick when the market picks up. Possibly a shopping centre.
The £6 tax was just the nail in the coffin for local travellers
Who actually received the BMI cheque at Peel and which account is it in, personal or business? Will Peel aim for Croft after DTV?
Sheffield was the first regional field to go under Peels governance after being purchased in 2002. Its now a business park.
Watch this space as the plans have already been drawn up for the what will be built on the old runway. Will it be extra council tax from new houses and business units being planned.
Stage one will be a small Wynard followed by an Ingelby Barwick when the market picks up. Possibly a shopping centre.
The £6 tax was just the nail in the coffin for local travellers
Who actually received the BMI cheque at Peel and which account is it in, personal or business? Will Peel aim for Croft after DTV?
A little Harsh?
Possibly ,but Nothbound has probably made a point..The new Housing Inititive from the
government throws up a lot of unanswered questions.Not living within the boundries...does anyone know what has been said locally about Housing plans for that area? any one have access to the local authority and their thoughts?
I know where i live we have had already a couple of public meetings and there are consultation documents out there for the future?
A few guys on here have always said that the future for DYV was housing..well it may just be a little step closer. Surely the losses can not continue and probably the kindest thing in the long run to put all out of their misery.
government throws up a lot of unanswered questions.Not living within the boundries...does anyone know what has been said locally about Housing plans for that area? any one have access to the local authority and their thoughts?
I know where i live we have had already a couple of public meetings and there are consultation documents out there for the future?
A few guys on here have always said that the future for DYV was housing..well it may just be a little step closer. Surely the losses can not continue and probably the kindest thing in the long run to put all out of their misery.
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bmi cash?
Re the earlier post by N707ZS (#1423) what happened to the £15m as the case was settled months ago?
If it hasnt been paid who will it be paid to? The local council partners or Peel themselves?
The Sheffield Airport business park project was just the start of the Peel master building plan. Peel believe the councils couldnt run DTV without a partner.
Does any of the 6 councils what happened to the BMI cash, or where it is going?
If it hasnt been paid who will it be paid to? The local council partners or Peel themselves?
The Sheffield Airport business park project was just the start of the Peel master building plan. Peel believe the councils couldnt run DTV without a partner.
Does any of the 6 councils what happened to the BMI cash, or where it is going?
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The houseing companys are only interested in nice clean greenfield sites. The Stockton Councils recent future planning document only indicated land around Stockton, Eaglescliffe and Yarm.
I am quite sure if there was an oportunity the Southside at DTVA would be full of industrial units.
I heard the Tomson Tenerife flights are quite well booked with some being full.
I am quite sure if there was an oportunity the Southside at DTVA would be full of industrial units.
I heard the Tomson Tenerife flights are quite well booked with some being full.
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Tax - housing or business?
Stockton are only part of the airport equation. The councils know that they do not benefit from business tax on units, but housing brings in large revenues.
Lets hope the rumour over here in Darlington is wrong, but I'm interested in what happened, or happens, to the BMI multi million pound compensation money?
Are Peel more of a property empire or do airports matter to them? Anybody from Sheffield care to add anything about them?
I noticed Hugh has a few strings to his bow these days.
nebusiness.co.uk - News - Business News - Air chief Hugh Lang steps down
Lets hope the rumour over here in Darlington is wrong, but I'm interested in what happened, or happens, to the BMI multi million pound compensation money?
Are Peel more of a property empire or do airports matter to them? Anybody from Sheffield care to add anything about them?
I noticed Hugh has a few strings to his bow these days.
nebusiness.co.uk - News - Business News - Air chief Hugh Lang steps down
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Future
I won't enter the debate about housing, but one can't ignore the financial situation at the airport. Recent reports suggested from inside that it won't be allowed to continue idefinitely. Regardless of what we outsiders see as missed opportunities or failings; unless we see material financial improvement soon, either in actual terms or in future prospects, I would struggle to see a reason why the owners would pump in cash beyond next summer.
In summary...if we haven't heard of new routes/money making opportunties by the end of next year's 'busy' season, I can't see the airport being sustained for much longer thereafter.
All the while NCL continues to expand making it even harder for MME to develop the routes it needs.
Its the last chance saloon - lets hope someone has a grand plan which is about to turn around the fortunes.
In summary...if we haven't heard of new routes/money making opportunties by the end of next year's 'busy' season, I can't see the airport being sustained for much longer thereafter.
All the while NCL continues to expand making it even harder for MME to develop the routes it needs.
Its the last chance saloon - lets hope someone has a grand plan which is about to turn around the fortunes.
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Been away for a few days & nice to see that there has been some activity on this site, though can't believe the amount of cr
p that has been deposited here as to the old chestnut "land Development".
P330 thankfully has injected some sense into the previous posts where clearly no-one has a clue as to what is likely (if anything) to arise out of the current dire situation at DTV.
Whereas I have held the view that DTV in it's present format presents an unsustainable business model, there are obviously other more political elements in the equation. Way back on this thread, land development issue was introduced as a "pop" against Peel, as this was a prime activity of the holding company, the only other specific reference that I am aware was that in reference to development of the far side & the consequential proposed altering of the boundaries.
If anyone has a credible source as to any justification as to the site's suitability as to housing development then please clarify, otherwise further comment is rather pointless.
As to the question as to who gets the cash re the BMI compensation, it will be the Peel holding company that brought the action & if successful, there is not necessarily a business case that much of this will ever filter through to DTV as available funds for future development.
The key issue in all of this is that DTV is part of a group albeit a part that is not generating revenue. Whether it survives & in what format will be the group board's financial decision.
In the current ecconomic environment there are few "private" company's that are able to sustain funding to loss making ventures over the long term, & as for the public sector then we all know as to the governments attitude on this... Where does this leave DTV ?, I can't see that it can sustain many more blows andto have any chance of survival needs to radically improve it's business model, though ironically in practical terms it's future probably hinges on the Dutch !
p that has been deposited here as to the old chestnut "land Development".P330 thankfully has injected some sense into the previous posts where clearly no-one has a clue as to what is likely (if anything) to arise out of the current dire situation at DTV.
Whereas I have held the view that DTV in it's present format presents an unsustainable business model, there are obviously other more political elements in the equation. Way back on this thread, land development issue was introduced as a "pop" against Peel, as this was a prime activity of the holding company, the only other specific reference that I am aware was that in reference to development of the far side & the consequential proposed altering of the boundaries.
If anyone has a credible source as to any justification as to the site's suitability as to housing development then please clarify, otherwise further comment is rather pointless.
As to the question as to who gets the cash re the BMI compensation, it will be the Peel holding company that brought the action & if successful, there is not necessarily a business case that much of this will ever filter through to DTV as available funds for future development.
The key issue in all of this is that DTV is part of a group albeit a part that is not generating revenue. Whether it survives & in what format will be the group board's financial decision.
In the current ecconomic environment there are few "private" company's that are able to sustain funding to loss making ventures over the long term, & as for the public sector then we all know as to the governments attitude on this... Where does this leave DTV ?, I can't see that it can sustain many more blows andto have any chance of survival needs to radically improve it's business model, though ironically in practical terms it's future probably hinges on the Dutch !
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Please explain, as I don't think you have a grasp of current legislation. Other than a potential 6 month vacant property exemption, then business rates apply on industrial units!
..The councils know that they do not benefit from business tax on units, but housing brings in large revenues...,
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needs to radically improve it's business model
I suspect the only thing keeping them going at the moment is the significant slug of taxpayers' money that goes via the MoD and Cobham's calibrator and EW contracts to pay for hangar and accommodation rental plus landing fees.
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