NEWCASTLE - 8

[Jamie2k9]

If NYC does go , The airport should forget a direct NYC route, IMO a route like KEF with ICE would be a ideal to act as the gateway to America , Its already a few hours across the pond and it opens up Iceland , Somewhere completley different to any Destination served and a place that i can imagine would be fairly popular . I cant see Icelandair being a possible until they have the 737s though

WOW Air offer really cheap fares to the US which will be expanded.

[HH6702]

WOW air

That's what I was thinking for the airline ?


I wonder if another American airline would try and come in where United left?
Delta maybe

Then in the winter months business pax can still collect and use the points via klm/delta via AMS?

[LiamNCL]

A route to Reykjavik is something i have mentioned before and its not out of reach or unrealistic , Perfect Transatlantic crossing point. Forgot about WOW actually

I would love to see United back regardless , Thing is there is more than a 757s worth of people from NCL catchment area who are traveling to the US everyday , Problem is only a fraction are actually using it , others are traveling

[GrahamK]

A lot of folk will be Skyteam members (KL/AF) or oneWorld (BA/AA). Star have such a puny presence at NCL that its not surprising if most folk are not using the direct service. How many flights were cancelled during July, 4 or 5? So you'd need to calculate on 3 weeks worth of flights operating. Still not good for the busiest month of the year though...

A 2nd weekly flight to Orlando is what is needed...

[SWBKCB]

If UA doesn't work, nobody will look at a proper NY service (i.e. not shopping) for years.

A second Orlando is a different issue/market.

[HH6702]

Jet2 /EWR

This would never happen however

Jet2 could transform one of there 757 into a 150/160 plane to offer a premium and standard offer and could fly to EWR 4x weekly in the summer and 3 weekly in the winter.

Using flight only and jet2 holidays it could work!

The prices they charge for the shopping trips is not far from what United are after for flight only !!!

[Charlie98]

The thing is with NCL, we haven't fully recovered from the economic crisis in the North East and people don't have allot of disposable income. If you look at Economy only for the United flights they are reasonable - We just don't have any prospect at all of filling the premium or premium economy.

From the loads we have had - United should drop the route. they have been dismal - 3x a week may be better suited to establish an airport like NCL.

I only hope they don't cut the route and give it some time to mature, as we all know an aircraft doesn't fill overnight.

Regarding Jet2H. On the surface it would be a good idea, but it would cost more in crewing (LS are short of 75 pilots) and stopovers. Furthermore it doesn't fit in very well with their business model or fleet - one could only imagine the claims from a technical delay on one of those flights. The age of the 75 doesn't help.

[jensdad]

- There is more than a 757s worth of people from NCL catchment area who are traveling to the US everyday , Problem is only a fraction are actually using it -

Unless you are travelling to NYC and no further, there are many equivalent options for getting to the USA from NCL. Just because the first leg from NCL goes direct to the USA, doesn't mean that the whole process of getting to , say, Chicago on UA is any easier than going with BA or KLM. In fact, the greater choice of connection options on for example BA with 6 or 7x NCL-LHR and 2x LHR-ORD (and sadly, United's pretty poor cancellation record) will make the other options preferable for many.

[VentureGo]

Flybe extend NCL - Stansted (Loganair E145!)

Flybe extend Newcastle to London Stansted service

Interesting, as Loganair don't have Embraer E-145 Jets in their fleet! - Could this be the bmi regional a/c?
Will this be in effect a reduction in capacity?

[NCL-TRC]

STN

I believe it's the based BMI aircraft, operating this in between the two daily BRU flights, but defiantly a capacity reduction, going from twice daily on a Dash to daily on a smaller ER4 equals over 50% fewer seats. I'm surprised it's lasted this long, I flew the route last month and pretty much every passenger had a row to themselves.

[CabinCrewe]

it is the BMI aircraft. Was discussed previously

[Jamesair]

I noticed that this mornings United flight with 88 pax was operated by a 757 with a Business and Economy class only layout.

[ash666]

What happened to the post someone put up yesterday about the police taking someone off a plane???

Police pull over plane only moments from takeoff at Newcastle International Airport - Chronicle Live

[LiamNCL]

Originally Posted by Jamesair

I noticed that this mornings United flight with 88 pax was operated by a 757 with a Business and Economy class only layout.

Back to 3 class today and UA159 is nearly a sell out including Premium Economy , Still needs another year i think

[Jamesair]

I think this morning is the best so far to EWR with 166 .....2 Business and 1 economy left.

[HH6702]

The next week the flight has loads like this

[ash666]

Just been having lunch with someone whose daughter is doing work experience in the USA.

Her baggage allowance was 23kg but going for 3 months she turned up at NCL for the United flight with 26kg. The staff said up to 25kg would have been ok so could she take something out and put it in her hand luggage.
This she did and, much to her amazement, was told that her hand luggage was now too heavy (though within size) and she would have to pay $100 to put it in the hold and tough luck about anything fragile or valuable in it.
Weight wasn't even close to being an issue as there were only 60-odd people on the plane.

She had the chance to stay on another week or 2 but to change flights was going to cost the difference in a new flight ticket plus (ready for this one) £130 administration!!!! I think Which? magazine should be informed about that one after they have just said that £35 admin was exorbitant for a change of car insurance details.

So the new seat was going to incur a charge of around £1000 (really) plus the £130 admin.

She just bought a new flight with Thomsons from JFK to MAN for just over £200.

From what I've read and heard United don't deserve to make a success of any route, least of all the first-to-be-ditched NCL.

[malcolm380]

I find that hard to believe. I've flown with United, and Continental before them, for many years, almost exclusively trans-atlantic, and although the $200 charge to change dates is steep it's not outrageous, but I've never had to pay more to change the ticket itself, just a simple matter of changing the dates on-line. Maybe I've just been lucky?

[ash666]

The original return flight was around £700 and to change was £1400 (1 way!!!!!) minus the £350 already paid plus the £130 admin.

[yeo valley]

ticket change

i have had to change the date of travel to the uk a few times,and never had any problems doing so, or being charged for the change.
can only think the person dealing with it was having a bad day.