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Old 30th Jul 2015, 07:09
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Originally Posted by HH6702
I would be surprised too.

A route like this take years to build up.
Look at Emirates !!
Hopefully you are correct, but consider US Airways PHL-BHX summer offering a few years ago. Failed to perform in the first season, and never seen again.

There's a big difference between Emirates and United. The latter has greedy, impatient institutional and private shareholders, who view 6 months rather than 5 years as long term; Emirates has no such problems - just some Sheiks and Emirs to keep happy.
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Old 30th Jul 2015, 17:59
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BHX has other links and airlines to the USA as NCL don't.

Maybe United would rather keep a small presence at NCL rather than nothing which in a few years time another airline tries again

As long as United keeps the 757 that is
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Old 1st Aug 2015, 14:52
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Tomorrows UA159/160 Cancelled
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Old 1st Aug 2015, 20:13
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United aren't having much luck with this route
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Old 1st Aug 2015, 23:21
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Why's it cancelled? What's the plan for the pax?

You'd have thought United might have at least put themselves out a bit to impress with this new route, 3 cancellations already can't be good for PR.They must have a spare aircraft with transatlantic range, or some kind of contingency plans like an agreement with another airline, even send an ETOPS 737 via Keflavik!!! Better than nothing
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Old 1st Aug 2015, 23:30
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UAs 757s aren't the most reliable machines at the moment - I believe one of today's 3 UA 757s went tech at a EDI too.
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Old 2nd Aug 2015, 05:36
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even send an ETOPS 737 via Keflavik!!! Better than nothing
Good grief....

ETOPS 737? The one's based in the Pacific? Alternative re-route via one of the many daily UA flights from Europe to EWR.
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Old 3rd Aug 2015, 08:06
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even send an ETOPS 737 via Keflavik!!! Better than nothing
Domestic and international crews are on different contracts. There would be an uproar if they used a domestic crew to operate an international flight. United is having enough union issues as it is.
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Old 3rd Aug 2015, 10:51
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That was a kind of tongue in cheek comment, but what happened with the cancelled flight?
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Old 3rd Aug 2015, 15:49
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757 Alert

For all the 757 folk , Privilege Style 757 EC-HDS Just positioned in from Madrid under a TOM callsign , Nothing delayed i can see so not sure why its up for
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Old 3rd Aug 2015, 17:12
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Reportedly crew shortage
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Old 4th Aug 2015, 06:58
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As a brief diversion from all things USA, I have a question about AMS which isn't really off-topic as a lot of NCL people either go there or transfer through it.
My question is about my return trip BKK-AMS-NCL.
Obviously at BKK you have to go through the normal security to get airside and onto the plane.
So how come at AMS when you remain airside to transit straight through to NCL do you have to go through more security (x-rays etc) as soon as you get off the plane before you can even get into the terminal building??
Do they not trust any other airport's security?
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Old 4th Aug 2015, 07:33
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Originally Posted by ash666
As a brief diversion from all things USA, I have a question about AMS which isn't really off-topic as a lot of NCL people either go there or transfer through it.
My question is about my return trip BKK-AMS-NCL.
Obviously at BKK you have to go through the normal security to get airside and onto the plane.
So how come at AMS when you remain airside to transit straight through to NCL do you have to go through more security (x-rays etc) as soon as you get off the plane before you can even get into the terminal building??
Do they not trust any other airport's security?
AMS has no central security screening - all pax go through that as their first / only security screen in AMS.
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Old 4th Aug 2015, 08:05
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It does seem an odd place to have a set of xrays when you have only just been through them at BKK (or anywhere else for that matter) and just got off the plane.
On the way out I don't recall getting off the NCL flight and having the same at AMS.

Or maybe it is my bad memory, still trying to get over the check-in etc shambles that is NCL (don't blame the messenger).
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Old 4th Aug 2015, 09:09
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Transitting back from International flights via Heathrow to NCL you have to go through security again (albeit, after clearing immigration) although you remain airside, having been fully security processed at the departure airport (in my case recently on seperate occasions, Nice, Paris and Miami).
Duty free items bought abroad (liquids etc... which are over the 100ml plastic resealable bag rule) must be sealed by the Duty Free Shop at foreign departure airport, and remain sealed through the security / x-ray process at Heathrow)
NCL to Rest of World via LHR, From your Arrival gate. proceed through Flight Connections, having only your Boarding Card checked for validity, and then enter directly into the Departure Lounge/Gate area without going through Security scanning etc...
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Old 4th Aug 2015, 09:52
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STN

NCL -STN, Winter 15/16 is now on the Flybe timetable at 8 flts wkly.
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Old 4th Aug 2015, 09:58
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LHR transit

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Your correct, outbound from NCL if you transfer T5 to T5 you only have to show your boarding card at LHR. However if your transfer is from T5 arrival to T3 or T4 departure you have to go through the flight connections and a security search.
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Old 4th Aug 2015, 10:04
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There must be some logic there somewhere but I can't see it.

So... back to NCL.

I still think anyone who pays many hundreds of £££ for business class for a 1 hour flight to AMS is either completely nuts or so rich that the value of money has become meaningless.
But when I checked in online 30 hours in advance (ie as soon as poss) for my economy flight I was offered a very cheap upgrade which, for 1 reason or another, I took.
One of the advantages is to avoid the queue and use the Priority check-in counter.
On arrival at NCL there was no-one manning the Priority desk so it was everyone in the economy queue. Not a good start.
When I got to the desk the girl didn't seem to have a clue how to transfer my bag straight through AMS and onto BKK even though it was all KLM. She tried for quite a while before asking for help then pulling all sorts of scrap paper out her pockets looking for something before eventually announcing she had done it.
I know I was on 2 separate tickets but it's obviously not even a slightly tricky operation as on the return the girl at BKK did it in seconds.
Then it appears that the left hand doesn't let the right hand know what is going on and on the plane the stewardess said that they hadn't been told about anyone who upgraded so there weren't enough business class meals.
They also seemed to have quite a few people in the seats with different names to the ones on her list.

Is it just me being a moaner again? No. On that trip I used NCL, AMS, BKK, HAN, DAD and KKC (great airport, none of this taking your laptop out your carry on bag).
The only one I had issues with was NCL.

Mind, the new lounge is a big improvement on the old one.
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Old 4th Aug 2015, 15:02
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I can only assume that removing electronics must be dependant on country. NCL insist on it, as do BRS, EDI, CDG, SOU and AGP. I'm struggling to remember a place that doesn't insist on it.
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Old 4th Aug 2015, 15:14
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KLM

Your issues at NCL though were with the airline and their agent, not the airport.
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