NEWCASTLE - 8

[LiamNCL]

This is every other day now i doubt they will complete a week from now until service end

[VentureGo]

nclpilot wrote:

Flight aware is showing UA160/159 canx again!

Liam wrote:

This is every other day now i doubt they will complete a week from now until service end

Just checked on FR24 details of A/craft scheduled for todays cancelled flights to/from Newcastle for technical issues! -

Apparently the aircraft N19117 is showing as cancelled for Newcastle but is operating the Edinburgh service instead!!

Copied from FlightRadar 24 (Aircraft registration) below:

2015-08-09
UA54 New York (EWR) Paris (CDG) 21:10 EDT - 10:55 CEST Estimated departure. 21:20
2015-08-09
UA109 Edinburgh (EDI) New York (EWR) 12:05 BST - 14:40 EDT Estimated departure. 12:15
2015-08-09
UA159 Newcastle (NCL) New York (EWR) 09:10 BST - 12:00 EDT Canceled
2015-08-08
UA108 New York (EWR) Edinburgh (EDI) 21:55 EDT 23:56 09:45 BST Landed 10:39
2015-08-08
UA160 New York (EWR) Newcastle (NCL) 19:20 EDT - 07:30 BST Canceled
2015-08-08
UA1945 Houston (IAH) New York (EWR) 14:40 CDT 16:26 19:25 EDT Landed 20:20

[LiamNCL]

Originally Posted by VentureGo

nclpilot wrote:
Liam wrote:
Just checked on FR24 details of A/craft scheduled for todays cancelled flights to/from Newcastle for technical issues! -

Apparently the aircraft N19117 is showing as cancelled for Newcastle but is operating the Edinburgh service instead!!

Copied from FlightRadar 24 (Aircraft registration) below:

The aircraft was good enough to leave a few hours later to EDI so why not just delay the service for a few hours

[CabinCrewe]

Perhaps there are far more J pax or connecting passengers ex EDI that are harder to reroute. I dont think theres some closet conspiracy against poor 'lil NCL, if that was what was being suggested.

[SWBKCB]

And assuming FR24 is correct. It's a decent tool but not infallible.

[crewmeal]

They probably decided that the Edinburgh Festival was more important and could fill a 757 at this time of the year rather than send one to NCL. No excuse but BA have been guilty in the past of cancelling LHR services so nothing new.

[oldart]

UAL flight stats showing 160 nearly full for Sunday/Monday flight. It looks like the service can sustain at least twice weekly rotation, weekend in New York maybe.

[160to4DME]

UAL flight stats showing 160 nearly full for Sunday/Monday flight. It looks like the service can sustain at least twice weekly rotation, weekend in New York maybe.

70-odd are displaced from last night.

[VentureGo]

Problem with today's United service. Landed in to NCL on time but departure to EWR dalayed by 2 hours. Estimating arrival at EWR 3 hours late?? (Flight time of 9 hours - usuallly 7hours+) No other flights across the pond seem to have an extra hour flying time - wonder if problem with delay, may require a scheduled stop on route?
Late arrival time of 15.17 local time is showing on Newarks arrivals page as well as FR24

Newark Airport Info. Page:
http://www.panynj.gov/airports/fligh...?view=&apt=EWR
Extracted:
Departure Information Airport:
Newcastle (NCL) Scheduled Time:9:10 AM, Aug 11 Left Gate Time:10:52 AM, Aug 11 Terminal-Gate:21
Arrival Information Airport:Newark, NJ (EWR) Scheduled Time:12:00 PM, Aug 11 Estimated Time:3:17 PM, Aug 11Terminal-Gate:Terminal C - C135

[nclops]

Had a tech problem which required a reroute to the flight plan and at a lower altitude.......or something along those lines anyway! The reroute and lower altitude probably contributed to the extra hour on the flight time!

[HH6702]

Summer 2016 charter timetable

Airport website been updated with timetable

Nothing to add ready

[EK77WNCL]

Wouldn't expect anything finalised yet, most airlines haven't even got their summer 2016 brochures sorted yet (LS and TCX + their partner operators at least)

[LandingConfig]

Originally Posted by EK77WNCL

Wouldn't expect anything finalised yet, most airlines haven't even got their summer 2016 brochures sorted yet (LS and TCX + their partner operators at least)

Charter and low cost airlines release their schedules much later than scheduled airlines.

[GrahamK]

July Provisional Stats

Heathrow 45021 +9%
Stansted 4667
Aberdeen 1754 -36%
Belfast City 2722 -11%
Bristol 14759 -5%
Exeter 3488
Jersey 3304 +27%
Southampton 10053 +9%

Brussels 2583 +16%
Copenhagen 1690 +40%
Paris CDG 14482 -1%
Dusseldorf 3910 +10%
Dublin 16179 +7%
Amsterdam 33744 +1%
Stavanger 1498 -19%
Geneva 5417
Dubai 21067 +13%
Newark 3567
Sanfod 2875 +22%
Cancun 2609

[HH6702]

monthly figures

thanks for the update on the figures.

Dubai 21,000+ is this the first month we have seen 21,000 per month??
not far from the target of 24,000 per month to start thinking about a second daily flight??

New York

Worrying i make it 50.25% for the month
june i made it just short of 60%!!

August seems to be better around 60% outbound and 70% full inbound.

Im starting to think the worst for this route it just seems to high priced for it to work even looking at the late deals in the next few days its still a lot more than the rest of them....

Time will tell hope they come back

[HH6702]

New York

So far then upto the end of July i make the figures as follows

8,917 passengers carried
16,393 passenger seats on sale

54.40% load so far

[CabinCrewe]

EWR half empty at the height of summer... mmm.

[LandingConfig]

Originally Posted by CabinCrewe

EWR half empty at the height of summer... mmm.

It's been operating for a matter of months...

[Jamie2k9]

It's been operating for a matter of months...

That excuse won't wash with the bean counters. The only way it would stay is if the airline have real confidence in the route and such poor loads isn't going to help. UA will redeploy the 752 elsewhere. It's an easy target for cancellations as other routes would cost significantly more. They would likely make more money have the aircraft on standby for the whole summer than what it does going o NCL.

If it manages to survive all it will take is a spike in fuel prices to end it.

[LiamNCL]

If NYC does go , The airport should forget a direct NYC route, IMO a route like KEF with ICE would be a ideal to act as the gateway to America , Its already a few hours across the pond and it opens up Iceland , Somewhere completley different to any Destination served and a place that i can imagine would be fairly popular . I cant see Icelandair being a possible until they have the 737s though