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I assumed it was well known that Americans prefer convenience?
By "throw it all in" I'm sure he means, "get a few good first/business class flights, use up all my points and gradually switch to UA." Anyway UA being seasonal probably works for him, use UA in the summer + build up some points and then switch back to BA during the winter.
By "throw it all in" I'm sure he means, "get a few good first/business class flights, use up all my points and gradually switch to UA." Anyway UA being seasonal probably works for him, use UA in the summer + build up some points and then switch back to BA during the winter.
Been out of the office for a couple of days, but got back to find the NY announcement has created plenty of interest. General view seems to be that prices are comparable with BA in May/June so the direct flight is a "no brainer" - September seems a lot more expensive for some reason? B757 as opposed to a widebody isn't seen as a disadvantage.
Of course, this is for seats down the back and not up front, but I was surprised at the impact.
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Of course, this is for seats down the back and not up front, but I was surprised at the impact.
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I don't think the 757 is a disadvantage at all, same legroom as a BA 747, seats are only 0.2" narrower which is everything but noticeable, you still get AVOD, meals and of course the reduced hassle of a direct flight and extremely customer friendly, pleasant to use airport on the UK end.
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United Boosts Transatlantic Offering with First Link to Newcastle :: Routesonline
The confirmation of the new route follows years of discussions between the management of Newcastle International Airport and various US partners to establish a scheduled westbound long-haul link to the US to support its highly successful Emirates Airline flight to Dubai.
US major United Airlines is to introduce the first regular scheduled air service between the New York area and Newcastle in north east England. The carrier will launch a five times weekly seasonal service from its hub at Newark Liberty International Airport between May 23, 2015 and September 7, 2015, subject to government approval.
The confirmation of the new route follows years of discussions between the management of Newcastle International Airport and various US partners to establish a scheduled westbound long-haul link to the US to support its highly successful Emirates Airline flight to Dubai. Previously the airport had got close to a deal with Continental Airlines, while American Airlines actually announced the launch of a flight but cancelled the service prior to its start date. Leisure carrier Jet2.com has served the Newcastle - New York route the past couple of years but with only a limited schedule of flights focussed mainly on Christmas shopping.
“For many years, and everywhere I go, people have been stopping me and asking, when is the North East going to get a New York service?” said David Laws, chief executive, Newcastle Airport and chairman of the North East Chamber of Commerce. During regular meetings with The HUB over the past couple of years, Laws, and his aviation development director, Chris Sanders, have retained a firm commitment this is a route that they were determined to deliver for the region.
“We have been carefully and quietly working behind the scenes, with our shareholders, to secure what will be another game-changing new route. I am delighted today that we are finally able to make the announcement everyone has been hoping for,” said Laws at a quickly arranged press conference at Newcastle Airport earlier today.
According to Laws, United Airlines is the “best airline” to operate this service with an exceptional track record of linking UK regions to their New York/Newark hub, where customers can then connect to over one hundred onward destinations. The carrier currently operates flights to Belfast International, Birmingham, Edinburgh, Glasgow London Heathrow and Manchester: it previously also served Bristol and London Gatwick.
The new route will be flown using an a 169-seat Boeing 757-200 configured with 16 flat-bed seats in United BusinessFirst and 153 seats in United Economy, including 45 Economy Plus seats with added legroom and increased personal space.
“We’re very excited about introducing non-stop flights to New York from Newcastle next summer,” said Bob Schumacher, managing director sales – UK & Ireland, United Airlines. “We’ll be offering the people of Northeast England easy, convenient travel options not only to New York City but also to destinations throughout the Americas. United already offers trans-Atlantic service from more cities in the UK than any other airline and we’ve every reason to be confident that this new service will be a success.”
Our own analysis shows that approximately 75,000 bi-directional O&D passengers have flown between Newcastle and destinations across the United States in the first eight months of 2014, flying to and from more than 160 different points across the US, highlighting the importance of the connection opportunities. New York (New York JFK and Newark EWR) is the largest single market ahead of Los Angeles, San Francisco, Boston and Orlando.
The confirmation of the new route follows years of discussions between the management of Newcastle International Airport and various US partners to establish a scheduled westbound long-haul link to the US to support its highly successful Emirates Airline flight to Dubai.
US major United Airlines is to introduce the first regular scheduled air service between the New York area and Newcastle in north east England. The carrier will launch a five times weekly seasonal service from its hub at Newark Liberty International Airport between May 23, 2015 and September 7, 2015, subject to government approval.
The confirmation of the new route follows years of discussions between the management of Newcastle International Airport and various US partners to establish a scheduled westbound long-haul link to the US to support its highly successful Emirates Airline flight to Dubai. Previously the airport had got close to a deal with Continental Airlines, while American Airlines actually announced the launch of a flight but cancelled the service prior to its start date. Leisure carrier Jet2.com has served the Newcastle - New York route the past couple of years but with only a limited schedule of flights focussed mainly on Christmas shopping.
“For many years, and everywhere I go, people have been stopping me and asking, when is the North East going to get a New York service?” said David Laws, chief executive, Newcastle Airport and chairman of the North East Chamber of Commerce. During regular meetings with The HUB over the past couple of years, Laws, and his aviation development director, Chris Sanders, have retained a firm commitment this is a route that they were determined to deliver for the region.
“We have been carefully and quietly working behind the scenes, with our shareholders, to secure what will be another game-changing new route. I am delighted today that we are finally able to make the announcement everyone has been hoping for,” said Laws at a quickly arranged press conference at Newcastle Airport earlier today.
According to Laws, United Airlines is the “best airline” to operate this service with an exceptional track record of linking UK regions to their New York/Newark hub, where customers can then connect to over one hundred onward destinations. The carrier currently operates flights to Belfast International, Birmingham, Edinburgh, Glasgow London Heathrow and Manchester: it previously also served Bristol and London Gatwick.
The new route will be flown using an a 169-seat Boeing 757-200 configured with 16 flat-bed seats in United BusinessFirst and 153 seats in United Economy, including 45 Economy Plus seats with added legroom and increased personal space.
“We’re very excited about introducing non-stop flights to New York from Newcastle next summer,” said Bob Schumacher, managing director sales – UK & Ireland, United Airlines. “We’ll be offering the people of Northeast England easy, convenient travel options not only to New York City but also to destinations throughout the Americas. United already offers trans-Atlantic service from more cities in the UK than any other airline and we’ve every reason to be confident that this new service will be a success.”
Our own analysis shows that approximately 75,000 bi-directional O&D passengers have flown between Newcastle and destinations across the United States in the first eight months of 2014, flying to and from more than 160 different points across the US, highlighting the importance of the connection opportunities. New York (New York JFK and Newark EWR) is the largest single market ahead of Los Angeles, San Francisco, Boston and Orlando.
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BA status pax 'throwing it all' for a direct flight.. now theres a first
Business travellers from NCL will likely have built up status either in the Executive Club or Flying Blue, or both. Switching their transatlantic flying to another alliance might be a turn off for some, particularly as there's not much Star Alliance presence here to make use of it.
It would really help if we got a ZRH or FRA service.
I haven't used the EK flight for the same reason - I don't want to throw away the miles.
All in all, excellent news though. I hope it's successful and I hope it comes back as a year-round service. The flight timings are very civilised, too (although suspiciously long?!)
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What I would do if I had any real status with an airline would be (especially convenient as this is currently only a seasonal service) is begin to use UA but not on every trip, I'd then start to treat myself with J and F and whatever other things I can use miles for and then build up UA status.... Followed by making a full transition to UA or alternating whichever airline I use.
Although I realise most businessmen etc. Will not be that flexible/willing/open to change
On another note I hope NCL isn't effected too much by the up and coming EDI-JFK on AA (and to a much lesser extent BHX-JFK) lots of expansion across the atlantic for 2015, good times
Although I realise most businessmen etc. Will not be that flexible/willing/open to change
On another note I hope NCL isn't effected too much by the up and coming EDI-JFK on AA (and to a much lesser extent BHX-JFK) lots of expansion across the atlantic for 2015, good times
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Great news about the route, it definitely was unexpected, however I hope that some of the prices which are loaded onto the system are wrong. As if they aren't and they stay at those prices I fear that people won't book with United and rather take the cheaper longer route with BA or KLM/Air France. I did a booking for the beginning of August from the 3rd to the 7th and it came to £1244 return per person for an economy seat. I have not seen any of these advertised £500 odd fares. People have already started to tweet the airport about it and say they have been put off booking by the price.
Looking on the United website you can have a rough check of how the seats have sold for the flight and what is reserved etc, I am guessing the first flight out which the front is nearly half gone will be for press and dignitaries. I also hope the recently announced AA Edinburgh JFK route won't affect bookings too.
Good luck to the airport though, they have and will market this route heavy until May next year.
Looking on the United website you can have a rough check of how the seats have sold for the flight and what is reserved etc, I am guessing the first flight out which the front is nearly half gone will be for press and dignitaries. I also hope the recently announced AA Edinburgh JFK route won't affect bookings too.
Good luck to the airport though, they have and will market this route heavy until May next year.
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I have not seen any of these advertised £500 odd fares
Try June 7th-15th, for example. £372.
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EGNT-New York Newark on a 757!!!
It is good news that United have invested in an NCLNYC route from May 2015 however once someone does it on that 757 the non-stop benefit will be outweighed by the poor seat pitch AND single aisle frustration! It's a pity they couldn't have gone "twin aisle" to start off with the right impression?
the non-stop benefit will be outweighed by the poor seat pitch AND single aisle frustration
If you're up the front seat pitch and 'single aisle frustration' (whatever that is...) won't be an issue and down the back it's what people are used to on SSH and TFS. Compared to the hassle and time wasted in a transfer, not been mentioned as an issue.