NEWCASTLE - 8

[GrahamK]

Bad weather in NCL at the moment?
EK went around 2/3 times and the 4U DUS has went around as well.

AF1058 came in squawking 7700 and the LS to PRG diverted to LBA earlier too.

[ash666]

Beautiful weather here, no problems at all.

[HeathrowDictator]

EK went around 2/3 times and the 4U DUS has went around as well.

I think the missing words here were "the hold"...no go arounds (well not looking at FR24 anyway). The two aircraft mentioned held whilst the 7700 traffic landed, and made an approach around 10 minutes later which would tally with the emergency vacating and a runway inspection being completed.

Tyne Tees are reporting it here - and it looks like a lack of facts too. The Jet2 flight to Prague was outbound and looking at FR24 turned around just north of the Norfolk coast with it's own emergency before diverting into Leeds. British sensationalism (journalism) at it's best!

-HD-

[Airbanda]

The Jet2 flight to Prague was outbound and looking at FR24 turned around just north of the Norfolk coast with it's own emergency before diverting into Leeds.

Where a rapid swap of machines was carried out from the presumably ailing G-GDFE to G-GDFL with latter departing LBA for PRG at 12:30 as EXS509A. Now in air again as LS510 to NCL.

[EK77WNCL]

Was last January unusually strong because the statistics look bleak, especially on leisure

[SWBKCB]

Does look odd - only looked at the international figures, but 5 out of the top 6 are up (AMS, DXB, CDG, DUB and GVA - Tenerife is down) but double digit percentage loses on Alicante, Malaga, Arrecife and Fuerteventura

Overall static - 53 different up!

[CabinCrewe]

The quasi charter routes are always up and down, irregular week ops from year to year. Cant easily compare like with like. Stick to the fixed scheduled to see if theres growth or not.

[SWBKCB]

Tend to agree CC - but the drop on the Spanish routes is striking, does make you wonder if the stats are incomplete. Also, never realised there was no Palma through the winter?

Destination Jan 15 Jan 14 Diff
HEATHROW 36,704 33,780 8.7
AMSTERDAM 26,959 26,451 1.9
DUBAI 19,327 18,351 5.3
TENERIFE 16,424 16,766 -2.0
BELFAST INTERNAT 14,495 14,231 1.9
DUBLIN 14,399 13,104 9.9
BRISTOL 11,533 13,213 -12.7
PARIS (C DE GAULLE) 11,203 10,290 8.9
GENEVA 8,338 8,163 2.1
GATWICK 7,924 4,991 58.8
ALICANTE 7,621 10,151 -24.9
MALAGA 5,772 6,843 -15.7
ARRECIFE 5,352 6,144 -12.9
SHARM EL SHEIKH 5,018 5,240 -4.2
BARCELONA 3,289 3,268 0.6
FARO 2,850 2,326 22.5
EXETER 2,244 1,633 37.4
DUSSELDORF 2,122 2,720 -22.0
FUERTEVENTURA 2,080 2,326 -10.6
ABERDEEN 1,930 2,247 -14.1

[EK77WNCL]

I thought that could have had something to do, like having 5 flights per week one month of one year and only 4 the next if a weekly flight, but tha doesn't ad up year round, 2014 seemed like just losses as well on routes like ALC, TFS, FUE, PMI etc etc etc

[N707ZS]

Think the problem is lack of disposable income, things might improve slightly now the pound to euro exchange rate is increasing.

[EK77WNCL]

Could well be... Maybe Spain is just on a bit of a low in general this year last year and probably for 2015 too. In the Summer while places like Alicante, Malaga and Palma were down 20% on last year places like Kefalonia, Zante, Rhodes and Kos were up by 100% or more.

Thankfully January is still 2% up on last year but those stats are disheartening, hoping for a good Easter and Summer.

[Flyit Pointit Sortit]

I see that the highest growth was on the Gatwick flight.

Must be time to kill it off now then!!!

[GrahamK]

Flyit Poinit Sortit

I know load factors aren't everything, but the Jan loads I get as coming out as 52.6%. No wonder EZY are dropping it

[tigertanaka]

It is not really apples with apples when comparing a 78 seat FlyBe Dash 4 with an 156 seat Easyjet A319 on the Newcastle-Gatwick route.

[EK77WNCL]

Since EZY took over the route has seen constant growth, most if not all double digit growth, and that's without having any detrimental effect on LHR. If they left it another year and they were still under 70% loads then maybe I could understand pulling the route but I think they've made the decision too soon. I'm sure 50%+ would just be turning a profit. Although as we know.... Other deployment is more profitable.

Just have to hope Flybe have the same success on the STN route as the last operator... Who were they again? The one with 4 daily 737's...

[Heathrow Harry]

still astounds me that Dubai is third and only 5000 pax a month behind Amsterdam


what the hell do they do there all day???

[SWBKCB]

Whose to say they aren't all inbound to the NE?

[Heathrow Harry]

ah yes - all those rich A-rabs buying mansions in Monkseaton again................

or all the poor ones taking all the jobs at the Ministry in Benton............

driving their herds of goats & camels across the (sun-drenched) sand dunes of the Long Sands at Tynemouth

I should have thought ........

[heslop2006]

Not to forget that Dubai is also like a connector for us in the North East to Asia/Oceania.

The past 2 years I've gone from Newcastle to Dubai then onwards to Bangkok, Shanghai and Taipei.

Extremely useful really.

[MATELO]

Does anybody know why Thomsons pulled the NCL to Verona flight.