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Just looked up the CAA origin destination data. First one I came to was 2005. Northumberland and Cumbria sent 37,000 to EDI/GLA, sort of as expected. But Scotland sent 133,000 to NCL, far more than I would have expected.
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APD tax
To be fair this is a worry for the northeast however I think we need to see what happens as I bet that the full amount doesn't get passed into the passenger
Just look at the price if oil - have air fares reduced? NO
So APD scrapped - savings passed into passengers let's wait and see
I think the margins in which the airlines make will increase.
What maybe will happy though is growth will be more in Scotland as it will be cheaper than ncl for margins!!
Yes this next 500,000 people or ncl will take some doing
Just look at the price if oil - have air fares reduced? NO
So APD scrapped - savings passed into passengers let's wait and see
I think the margins in which the airlines make will increase.
What maybe will happy though is growth will be more in Scotland as it will be cheaper than ncl for margins!!
Yes this next 500,000 people or ncl will take some doing
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With regards to oil you probably won't see a huge difference at first as many airlines hedge so have bought fuel in for a set amount of time. The only airline that has really scored has been Monarch as when they were having problems before the takeover they had not been able to hedge....
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HH6702, I agree, you have the right idea, maybe not loads of geordies heading north but more than likely airlines having less faith in NCL and thus NCL will fall behind in terms of potential for expansion or new airlines.
Very tempted to comment on David Cameron's picture of him at Edinburgh Airport bigging them up today... Might bite my tongue for a bit.
Very tempted to comment on David Cameron's picture of him at Edinburgh Airport bigging them up today... Might bite my tongue for a bit.
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APD
If it affects Newcastle what hope will DTV have?
I see DTV MP Phil Wilson is mentioned, but the chancellor won't reply to the Labour party letters from way back in November, so he can't do anything as usual! As much use as a chocolate fire guard.
I see DTV MP Phil Wilson is mentioned, but the chancellor won't reply to the Labour party letters from way back in November, so he can't do anything as usual! As much use as a chocolate fire guard.
Although I do think I have an amazing idea, to stop NCL (and others) losing out if we give Scotland more (which we will), one of the following should happen, in order of preference:
1. Cut APD to all airports with under 20,000,000 PPA (just clinches top spot, simply due to the complete and utter selfishness that it would help NCL win a bit over MAN)
2. Cut APD alltogether!!!
3. Cut APD to every airport outside the home counties... I quite like that one too.
1. Cut APD to all airports with under 20,000,000 PPA (just clinches top spot, simply due to the complete and utter selfishness that it would help NCL win a bit over MAN)
2. Cut APD alltogether!!!
3. Cut APD to every airport outside the home counties... I quite like that one too.
So it's official, APD is being devolved tOo Scotland. This could mean that NCL will lose out to EDI and GLA. Of course, the airlines may not pass on any savings to the customer, and thus nothing will change.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
We didn't ask for Scotland to be part of the UK and to be honest a lot of people wanted them to go independent. I personally did. The English also have NO representation in government and are deprived a national identity.
All in all life ain't all that bad North of the border.
All in all life ain't all that bad North of the border.
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Emirates returned to Dubai
This morning's EK35 operated by A6-ECB (777-31H) has diverted back to Dubai base - Replacement a/c is A6-EMF (777-21H ) - which is 18.3 years old.
Now due in to NCL at 17.35 ( 6 Hours late)
Now due in to NCL at 17.35 ( 6 Hours late)
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NEW ROUTE DEVELOPMENT FUND
It looks like NCL will qualify for the above fund to encourage new routes from regional airports which starts this year and will continue for three years with £56m available over 3 years. £17.5m will be available this year.
Regional airports with pax numbers under 5m qualify and have to make submissions.
Regional airports with pax numbers under 5m qualify and have to make submissions.
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One further thought on the EK route. Apart from the pax load factor I understand its the good cargo loads they get that make this operation well worthwhile.
The cargo on NCL-DXB has blown everyone away by all/most accounts, and has made it's own market based around the flights, particularly NE-Oz.
The cargo on NCL-DXB has blown everyone away by all/most accounts, and has made it's own market based around the flights, particularly NE-Oz.
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That's why EK needs an A380 900NC (neo combi)
But anyway, A6-EMF is nice to see! I'd have given my right arm to be on that flight today but oh well.
More cargo will definitely be nice to see and hopefully some of that money will go to good use, either to help UA (if they need it) or convince someone to do some new routes.
But anyway, A6-EMF is nice to see! I'd have given my right arm to be on that flight today but oh well.
More cargo will definitely be nice to see and hopefully some of that money will go to good use, either to help UA (if they need it) or convince someone to do some new routes.
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Suzeman, presumably a lot of that will have went through BHX as well. Although I believe LHR cargo overspill has been sent on the NCL flight at times. Cargo doesnt mind where it flies from I suppose 
Oh, and the 77W turned back to DXB due to an apparent cracked windscreen (FO side).
Oh, and the 77W turned back to DXB due to an apparent cracked windscreen (FO side).
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Interesting looking at the Qatar Air website yesterday, when you click on their route map there seems to be a purple circle where NCL is.
There is no line showing a route and no other info.Was wondering has this been on their map for a while or new ?
Nigel
There is no line showing a route and no other info.Was wondering has this been on their map for a while or new ?
Nigel
That's why EK needs an A380 900NC (neo combi)
Route Development Fund - has this been clarified now? There was some confusion as to who was eligible when first announced.
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Are new combi aircraft legal outside the exemptions such as Northern Canada/Alaska?
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It'll take a lot of weighing up definitely but if they did an 800NC you then have a 77W thrashing frame, same-ish pax, more cargo and possibly more range (higher MTOW and more attractive too due to less seats than A388 so easier to fill) and then the 900NC would be an "everything" thrashing plane if they made it long enough to carry the same pax as current A380's but with the extra cargo, something like 15 pallets on the main deck. Emirates would lap them up and I'm sure they would become a more attractive aircraft. Extremely idealistic but up against the 77X it will have to be really special, like Dubai-West coast USA with full pax, full cargo year round.
What exactly will this development fund do btw?
What exactly will this development fund do btw?
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An announcement was made last Thursday following negotiations with the EU to clarify and set the new pax limit for Regional Airports (5m) to qualify for the grants.
Strangely enough the Scottish Parliament has quietly withdrawn its own Route Development Fund.
An announcement was made last Thursday following negotiations with the EU to clarify and set the new pax limit for Regional Airports (5m) to qualify for the grants.
Strangely enough the Scottish Parliament has quietly withdrawn its own Route Development Fund.
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It means that completely new routes may qualify for a subsidy at the development stage. I presume the regional airport has to make a submission to the Fund to obtain the grant. Examples could be say, Oslo, Stockholm, Zurich. Business routes and routes to attract inward tourism would probably qualify.
It can only be good for the airport and area.
It can only be good for the airport and area.
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Does this count for any new route? i.e if EZY wanted to base 4 aircraft and open up Munich, Milan etc. Would they qualify? Or is it just aimed at foreign flag carriers on purely business/hub routes?