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I'm hoping for new routes too. Although summer 15 is on sale there could still be routes released. I know RAK and KEF were added from BRS at pretty short notice last winter, so there's time to add something. But they will need to get a move on. I wonder where they could go though? There are gaps mid week as advised before, one is short ish though so wold be a near mainland route I should expect. A return to CPH or BER? Who knows!
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They must not believe there is always a need for a day return to BRS hence some days only an evening flight. Despite an aircraft being sat on the ground in the morning that could do a BRS return.
Think that has been happening for a few weeks now.
I think the same issue applies to BFS some days.
On the days where there is 2 afternoon flights to BRS I think there is also an aircraft sitting on the ground in the morning. Would it not be better to have a morning and an afternoon/evening flight.
The schedule is certainly not very passenger friendly.
Think that has been happening for a few weeks now.
I think the same issue applies to BFS some days.
On the days where there is 2 afternoon flights to BRS I think there is also an aircraft sitting on the ground in the morning. Would it not be better to have a morning and an afternoon/evening flight.
The schedule is certainly not very passenger friendly.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again Easyjet is becoming rather disappointing (again). I agree with FRatSTN, EZY are too Gatwick-centric, yes it makes them (more) money but when they don't offer connecting flights, how do other markets benefit? I suppose nowadays it's probably an unreasonable assumption to hope that airlines might actually serve a route for the benefit of a market.
I would like to mention again that I'm amazed at Jet2 and Thomson's coexistence on the FNC route, in September TOM reported 91% load factors and Jet2 85% which I think is quite impressive. Those LF's will be profitable for them, I assume 75-80+ would be break even for LS and about 90% for TOM.I just cant understand the logic of jet2 going from Friday 733 to Monday 738 for next summer, although I notice LS has changed the schedule to an afternoon departure from the originally planned morning departure. It's not very likely that TOM and LS will clash any more than this year, I doubt the Friday departure made that much difference, but the logic still doesn't make sense to me.... As long as it makes money and does as well as this year I suppose, could be gearing up for 2 weekly for 2016?
I would like to mention again that I'm amazed at Jet2 and Thomson's coexistence on the FNC route, in September TOM reported 91% load factors and Jet2 85% which I think is quite impressive. Those LF's will be profitable for them, I assume 75-80+ would be break even for LS and about 90% for TOM.I just cant understand the logic of jet2 going from Friday 733 to Monday 738 for next summer, although I notice LS has changed the schedule to an afternoon departure from the originally planned morning departure. It's not very likely that TOM and LS will clash any more than this year, I doubt the Friday departure made that much difference, but the logic still doesn't make sense to me.... As long as it makes money and does as well as this year I suppose, could be gearing up for 2 weekly for 2016?
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What does anyone expect from Gatwick Aiways? I'd not be surprised to see the base shrink to 2 planes. The bonus culture is rife and short term profit is all that matters and to hell with the consequences. Sad times.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see EZY go altogether... And then the airport scramble to find a new operator to cover the 500,000 pax deficit on domestic routes alone.
Edit: If they scrapped the base... I'd hope they'd at least keep BFS and BRS.
Edit: If they scrapped the base... I'd hope they'd at least keep BFS and BRS.
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Any word on a New York route? 
Just joking, but it just goes to show the problems in the NE that NCL can't even support a twice daily lo-co to the capital of England, or a 2 x weekly lo-co service to the party capital of Europe!
Bring on more Palma, Tenerife and Dalaman
Just joking, but it just goes to show the problems in the NE that NCL can't even support a twice daily lo-co to the capital of England, or a 2 x weekly lo-co service to the party capital of Europe!
Bring on more Palma, Tenerife and Dalaman
but it just goes to show the problems in the NE
NCL has a good range of services to major business centres (LHR, AMS, BRU, CDG, CPH, DUS), plenty of bucket and spade flights for the majority of main holidays and a stonking service to DXB (which many other cities - e.g. EDI, BRS - would kill for).
Anything else awaits some serious economic improvement.
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Other lo-co operators have both tried Amsterdam and gatwick before and both have failed to make more money than than a route to Spain etc.
The main problem is the lo-co operators are looking for point to point travel only and the likes of KLM BA make money on the pax connecting onto there long haul.
Easyjet will still base 3 aircraft
The route network however from NCL will continue to change as where they can make the most money.
So if they are reducing the domestic routes in turn we will see more mid haul routes to Spain, Greece Turkey etc
The main problem is the lo-co operators are looking for point to point travel only and the likes of KLM BA make money on the pax connecting onto there long haul.
Easyjet will still base 3 aircraft
The route network however from NCL will continue to change as where they can make the most money.
So if they are reducing the domestic routes in turn we will see more mid haul routes to Spain, Greece Turkey etc
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EZY don't really do connecting flights (or at least separate flights on the same booking) so i'm not sure how NCL cuts would affect their other markets?
The demand (and importantly, at the right price) is there at LGW, not at NCL. It's basic economics - you put your supply where the demand is and where you can charge the highest price to reap the highest rewards. Unfortunately that's just not NCL as demonstrated by the loss of LGW.
As others have mentioned, the NE economy is hardly strong and has been the slowest area in the UK to recover from the recession which plays a huge role in why we aren't seeing 'x' new services to 'y'. Airlines today don't have the leverage on their bottom line to test markets or take a gamble as if they did, they would probably end up making a loss.
And as SWBKCB mentioned - NCL has a good range of services at the moment, more than a lot of regional airports do - it doesn't do bad considering the economic position of the catchment area.
The demand (and importantly, at the right price) is there at LGW, not at NCL. It's basic economics - you put your supply where the demand is and where you can charge the highest price to reap the highest rewards. Unfortunately that's just not NCL as demonstrated by the loss of LGW.
As others have mentioned, the NE economy is hardly strong and has been the slowest area in the UK to recover from the recession which plays a huge role in why we aren't seeing 'x' new services to 'y'. Airlines today don't have the leverage on their bottom line to test markets or take a gamble as if they did, they would probably end up making a loss.
And as SWBKCB mentioned - NCL has a good range of services at the moment, more than a lot of regional airports do - it doesn't do bad considering the economic position of the catchment area.
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[QUOTE]or a 2 x weekly lo-co service to the party capital of Europe!/[QUOTE]
I thought that was us?
Well, that's what the Chronicle keep saying at every opportunity so it must be true.
I thought that was us?
Well, that's what the Chronicle keep saying at every opportunity so it must be true.
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It's only LGW that has seen any real growth from EZY. Over the last 3 or 4 years, this has been the general picture:
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Well FR seems to think differently:
Ryanair sees plenty more growth within Europe | Reuters
"Instead, Ryanair intends to focus on "old reliables" like the United Kingdom, Poland, Italy and Germany, specifically on short, high-frequency routes, many of them domestic."
Maybe they could eventually have something a bit more substantial at NCL?
Ryanair sees plenty more growth within Europe | Reuters
"Instead, Ryanair intends to focus on "old reliables" like the United Kingdom, Poland, Italy and Germany, specifically on short, high-frequency routes, many of them domestic."
Maybe they could eventually have something a bit more substantial at NCL?
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For all I've always been against FR, I think for somewhere like NCL (mostly low yield when it comes to leisure), that, as FR says, high frequency and low cost may work on some routes. EZY doesn't always have the extremely low fares and LS doesn't always offer the frequency.
Think of somewhere like Krakow for example, x4-5 weekly at £30 return will probably work better then x2 weekly at £70+
... Providing the market is allowed to mature...
Think of somewhere like Krakow for example, x4-5 weekly at £30 return will probably work better then x2 weekly at £70+
... Providing the market is allowed to mature...
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For 2015 it appears that TCX are dropping Gran Canaria and reducing TFS by 1 weekly service. I'm also surprised to learn that they do not serve Paphos and Alicante, I could have sworn they did.