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Old 25th Sep 2014, 18:56
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Well, they did do something about it a good few years ago - they closed the Newcastle thread. So let's just all take a deep breath and let's move on with relevant, factual discussions. I'm not a mod, nor do I have any desires to be but there is a spotter section which perhaps some posts may be more appropriate there.

I feel very lucky to call the area home and couldn't think of anywhere else I'd rather be, but I am realistic over what the airport and the area can support. I'm a fan if sustainability and profitability and not fly by night operators or destinations (in matter how exotic they may be) that may come and go.
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 19:31
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posting about flights that aren't going to happen is not a discussion, hence why people DONT wish to continue seeing this tosh. Mods, sort this out please. Can't bare another 'EK will start NCL JFK flights because they are the best airline in the world and they are my favourite airline who have potential to use A340s on 2nd daily flights from newcastle because passenger figures are 60 Billion a month' 'discussion'...

Now, back to a more 'suitable discussion', it is a shame to see the LGW be shelved yet again, unfortunately the way it is scheduled to operate etc just don't make it a viable money maker (note to 'dreamers, if an airline can make money somewhere else as opposed to NCL, they will, all they care about in this current financial climate is profit, and lots of it, thats how they pay for those shiney new planes you wish to keep seeing).

It is good to see BA strengthen the LHR route even further, even with slot restrictions etc a la LHR.
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 19:43
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I lose track with BA - is this actually an addition or the normal adjustment between Summer and Winter?
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 20:01
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Its all because of a certain member talking from his .

Its time the spotters realised that the future of NCL is the bucket and spade routes as well as further development of key European routes ie LHR,AMS. Regarding LH the best we can hope for realistically is more BY works but that is a very very unlikely situation.

Why don't we look at the things that are happening at NCL and the positives? ie the new routes we are getting. I'm sorry but Thomas Cook and the likes are worth allot more in passenger numbers than EK or any other long haul carrier.
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 20:24
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'Easyjet will release its summer 2015 flights sometime in October 2014. However, it won’t confirm exactly what date the flights will be on sale. Lets wait and see if NCL get any new surprises.'

Quite. But where I wonder...somewhere competition already exist? Surely not - even with trendy export television? Who knows?
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 20:34
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Boris, Pallan - Calm down!!!! - This is a RUMOUR NETWORK, so please allow all views to be heard. You would have been the firsts, probably, to shoot down mentions of a direct service to Dubai on wide-body jets before it happened - so please live & let live.

Newcastle Airport management strictly adhere to trying to keep a 1/3rd Business, 1/3rd Leisure (Tour Operator) and 1/3rd Low Cost Carrier proportions and by thus maintaining a profitable business model. In comparison Liverpool & Leeds suffer from poorer financial performance by being too reliant on LCCs. Flights will come and volumes will rise to pre recession levels (over 5.6m pax), but this needs to be profitable growth.

p.s. Don't close the thread - It is currently the most visited/responses on the forum - Keep the debate going
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 20:57
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LHR

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The 7th rotation has been running on two or three days a week for few months now in addition to the normal 6.
It seems this coming winter the 7th rotation continues on some days again in addition to the normal 6, however on some days there is also an 8th rotation.

Its been normal over the past years to have 6 per day summer and winter.(weekdays)

Having said that during the last couple of years on some weeks both summer and winter the frequency has been cut to 5 daily.(or less)

So its good to see these changes although one or two of the times seem strange. On certain days there are 2 flights within 20 mins or so to NCL (early morning departure) However BA knows what its doing I presume.

Good to see the route growing at last.
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 21:01
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A rumour network which repeats the same rumours every single day
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 21:23
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"Don't close the thread - It is currently the most visited/responses on the forum" - and there lies the obvious problem, same posters posting the same stuff almost on a daily basis... and not a realistic "rumour" amongst them.
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 21:38
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NCLLGW is a dead route, you'll all see next year when our only London service is LHR. Most of the above can be applied to STN too. LHR is the only sustainable prospect of London, with a balance of O&D and connecting pax.

Any London route has lots of competition from ground transport options with people more inclined to use them if the price is not right which means your yields will never have that much potential throughout the the week, only on a few peak services.

LHR is a megahub. Hence why BA are succesful. If EZY cant make Gatwick work, nobody will.
And yes, clearly NCL cannot support a flight to another airport in the capital... if FOUR airlines couldn't make a flight to the second largest airport in the country work then yes, NCL cannot support a service to anywhere else in the capital. BA have just increased to 50 flights a week to an airport which is full yet all some talk about is a possible daily flight to LGW which no airline has been able to work
If only one London route can be sustained it clearly needs to be LHR, because of the availibilty of connecting traffic over and above the point to point traffic.

NCL is one of only 7 UK cities to have this link. Let's spare a thought for the many UK cities and towns that need, but don't have, a Heathrow link.

We shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth.
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 22:23
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I'm over the moon about BA, but as far as O&D is concerned it's not ideal. But obviously connections prevail and EZY's lack of ability to provide them obviously put the route at a disadvantage.

"every day" is a gross exaggeration as well... I'll stop myself there.
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 23:17
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So its good to see these changes although one or two of the times seem strange. On certain days there are 2 flights within 20 mins or so to NCL (early morning departure) However BA knows what its doing I presume.
I haven't had a proper look through the timetable to see if the extra flight within 20 minutes leaves straight away or is on the ground in Newcastle for a while. BA are cutting a fair bit of their schedule in the winter to remain profitable, i imagine it's far cheaper for BA to fly a plane to Newcastle and keep it parked on stand for 6-8 hours or so before flying it back to Heathrow to operate a flight to Europe than paying parking charges at Heathrow for blocking a stand. This summer BA had a plane on the ground for about 6 hours when they added the 7th daily flight on certain days.
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Old 27th Sep 2014, 10:30
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Anyone know what happened to yesterdays Skiathos flight ? TCDE positioned out there yesterday and flew back via Kavala but showing as Indefinite delay still and just noticed DG positioning out of STN as 615P
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Old 27th Sep 2014, 10:38
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Diverted to KVA due to weather in JSI. Aircraft then positioned back to NCL as weather in JSI not expected to improve. Passengers should arrive back later today on GTCDG. There were no passengers outbound NCL-JSI as it was the flights last op for the summer.
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Old 27th Sep 2014, 11:30
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Thanks wasnt sure what happened
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Old 30th Sep 2014, 15:32
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AN-12 inbound
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Old 30th Sep 2014, 16:22
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Just saw Ruby Star on climb out over my house headed back east. Nice sight, makes a change from the usual Jetstream which is the only aircraft that flies over my house. We're there two of then visiting?
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Old 30th Sep 2014, 23:54
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Copenhagen

I've just read that SAS are cancelling their contract with Cimber/AS from the April 1st. I wonder what that will mean for the NCL-CPH route? It appears the Leeds and Aberdeen flights have been upgraded to A319. Currently on the booking engine it still is book able and showing as a CR200 but SAS have the larger variant, so unless they take on the 8 CR200 that Cimber operate for them I wonder if the route may go. Does anyone know how the loads have been holding up on this incarnation of the route?
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Old 2nd Oct 2014, 06:34
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I seen that and unfortunately it means Cimber Air will shut down. Will be interesting to see if SK keep NCL-CPH on the larger CR9
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Old 2nd Oct 2014, 09:51
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Based on the loads I'd imagine the only viable alternative is the CR9, however I do beleive Jettime operate AT72s on behalf of SK, whether there's any spare capacity with them is a different question.
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