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The TOM 787 is on thw Cancun during April 2014 (interestingly I dont believe its on the SFB). And then returns on the CUN and SFB from July 2014.
Will it be able to do thw CUN nonstop or will it still be via MAN?
I see Jet2 are utilising a Livingston A320 at the moment, currently on its way to Rome.
Will it be able to do thw CUN nonstop or will it still be via MAN?
I see Jet2 are utilising a Livingston A320 at the moment, currently on its way to Rome.
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On the JournalLive website it looks like May has been another great month for Emirates at NCL with a 30% increase! Things can only get better with the summer holidays coming up!
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I assume 30% plus and not 30% otherwise this would be dismal.
May 2012 passenger figure per CAA 10329 + 30% = 13427 divide by 62 = 217 pax per flight!!!
Plannned capacity 428 seats x 62 = 26536 giving load factor 51%
Luckily there were 27 downgrades (upgrade for the pax
) to circa 360 seat three class versions making the final load factor nearer 60%.
However I still hope the figure given was an estimate.
May 2012 was an awful month for Dubai from the regions with MAN -12 and BHX -17 and evens Glasgows packed lone service at the time was down 3%
Good job that freight is paying the way.
Pete
May 2012 passenger figure per CAA 10329 + 30% = 13427 divide by 62 = 217 pax per flight!!!
Plannned capacity 428 seats x 62 = 26536 giving load factor 51%
Luckily there were 27 downgrades (upgrade for the pax
) to circa 360 seat three class versions making the final load factor nearer 60%.However I still hope the figure given was an estimate.
May 2012 was an awful month for Dubai from the regions with MAN -12 and BHX -17 and evens Glasgows packed lone service at the time was down 3%
Good job that freight is paying the way.
Pete
Emirates story here:
Emirates delight as Newcastle Airport passenger numbers rise - Today's News - News - JournalLive
Couple of interesting quotes from Emirates UK vice president Laurie Berryman:
last time the chauffeurs were telling him about all the people coming over from Cumbria! Pretty sophisticated revenue intelligence system EK have got there...
Emirates delight as Newcastle Airport passenger numbers rise - Today's News - News - JournalLive
Couple of interesting quotes from Emirates UK vice president Laurie Berryman:
And he said cargo loads on the 428-seater 777-300ER out of Newcastle were now approaching capacity. He said: “Cargo loads have improved dramatically over the last six months. One reason is that our handler has a new scanner that allows them to handle all types of cargo rather than having to move some elsewhere. But we’re also sending up a truck from Heathrow to bring cargo to fly it out of Newcastle. And the week before last we saw the first load of more than 20 tonnes from Newcastle – that’s almost full capacity.”
“I was talking to our chauffeur drivers the other day and they were saying they have been carrying a record number of business class passengers to Newcastle in the last few weeks. And looking forward the outlook is very strong through to November. We’re very pleased how things are going.”
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Have to say I'm surprised they are nearly at capacity for cargo unless pax loads are low as the 773ER would be surely restricted off the NCL runway. It's great news however long may it continue.
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Think the EK gent means maximum freight being carried for NCL field length.
As Olton Pete says, it was a massive capacity increase going from an A332 straight to a 77W when MAN and BHX at least went to a 772 and built from there.
Certainly yesterday and today NCL had 3 class machines (ENE) today.It needs to attain at least a 75-80% load factor on a 2 class machine to be safe you would think.
Using a 3 class machine can only last so long, as sure EK can make better use of fronT end business/1st class elsewhere in the World.
Good luck to NCL and EK for the future though.
Nigel
Think the EK gent means maximum freight being carried for NCL field length.
As Olton Pete says, it was a massive capacity increase going from an A332 straight to a 77W when MAN and BHX at least went to a 772 and built from there.
Certainly yesterday and today NCL had 3 class machines (ENE) today.It needs to attain at least a 75-80% load factor on a 2 class machine to be safe you would think.
Using a 3 class machine can only last so long, as sure EK can make better use of fronT end business/1st class elsewhere in the World.
Good luck to NCL and EK for the future though.
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Lots of delays this morning for outbound flights I've noticed causing some minor and one large delay for flights leaving this afternoon.
Did anything happen this morning? Find it strange that 8/9 flights are delayed because of this mornings late flights.
Did anything happen this morning? Find it strange that 8/9 flights are delayed because of this mornings late flights.
Emirates
Why all the negativity? Don't recall anybody holding a gun to their heads making them either start up in the first place or upgrade to a larger aircraft.
Similarly they seem to be the only one's talking about how well the route is doing and about upgrading to twice daily.
EK might well be different, but usually if a route is in trouble you'd expect the "use it or lose it" approach rather than the route being talked up.
Maybe the stories about the route being profitable on freight alone are true, and not just urban myth?
Similarly they seem to be the only one's talking about how well the route is doing and about upgrading to twice daily.
EK might well be different, but usually if a route is in trouble you'd expect the "use it or lose it" approach rather than the route being talked up.
Maybe the stories about the route being profitable on freight alone are true, and not just urban myth?
emirates
sorry to butt in from the DTV thread...but do you guys really know how lucky you are to have such a service??
Try DTV with a couple of flights to Amsterdam and Aberdeen!!
A mate of mine who works for someone connected to ek(indirectly) told me last week..0ver 420 passengers and 25 + tons of freight were on a flight last week...cant do much better than that me thinks?
Roll on the next Aberdeen departure from here!
Try DTV with a couple of flights to Amsterdam and Aberdeen!!
A mate of mine who works for someone connected to ek(indirectly) told me last week..0ver 420 passengers and 25 + tons of freight were on a flight last week...cant do much better than that me thinks?
Roll on the next Aberdeen departure from here!
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EK have 23 A330s in the fleet. Surely if the NCL route didn't warrant a 77W, it wouldn't have one!
Maybe the nice people at Emirates (Who made some £400m profit last year) know how to run an airline slightly better than some people on here....
Maybe the nice people at Emirates (Who made some £400m profit last year) know how to run an airline slightly better than some people on here....
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When GLA first changed to the 77W, IIRC it was getting similar loads, but as word of mouth spread its pax figures grew and grew as well. Not saying this will happen with NCL as its a much smaller market. They need to chase the folk that are still heading away from NCL and flying from GLA and MAN especially.
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People chill I know that Emirates loads are fine for suddenly having the extra seats available and as Graham says is doing better than Glasgow at this stage in the route development!
Where the extra seats are making a difference is kids holidays with a lot of flights totally full. The rest of the time will build especially if they keep the prices around present levels.
Where the extra seats are making a difference is kids holidays with a lot of flights totally full. The rest of the time will build especially if they keep the prices around present levels.