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Old 1st Mar 2012, 07:48
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With regard to business at EGNT. The airport is a gateway into the region. So I would suggest it must "cut its coat according to the cloth". (Prov.*to plan one's aims and activities in line with one's resources and circumstances)

The NE is much worse than most other regions for...

1. Those in receipt of out of work payments.
2. Children having underage pregnancies.
3. Young adults not in education employment or training.
4. Working age adults wanting paid work , with low pay or those with limiting or long standing illness or disability.
5. Older people with limiting or long standing illness or disability.
6. Communities in fuel poverty.

That is from the poverty.org.uk website.

From the BBC

Middlesbrough has the highest rate of unemployment of any local authority in the UK at 14.3%. The region also has the lowest employment rate in the country - 65.9% - with the rate falling significantly in the past year. The North East also has the highest economic inactivity rate with one in four people not contributing to the economy.

Finally to correct my earlier post ,from the FT.

This reflects the North East’s above-average dependency both on direct public sector employment – accounting for one quarter of its jobs, according to official data – and also on public spending which supports swaths of voluntary, creative sector and private sector employment.


In summary tell me how a weekly New York service is viable.

Andrewmcharlton and jensdad dont be thin skinned old boys!

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Old 1st Mar 2012, 20:40
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Granted we might be a little like that in the North East, but there are certainly a lot more local North-East people at my university than there are "external" counties ...


Now, back to the airport shall we?
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Old 1st Mar 2012, 22:47
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TCX

Have there been any confirmed plans as to how many TCX will base over summer 2012 are we a 3 full base with A320 W pattens or 4 full base?
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Old 1st Mar 2012, 22:53
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Definately a 4 a/c base
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 07:47
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Just had the latest March 2012 addition brochure through my door from Canadian Affair.

There is no mention of flights from Newcastle or Exeter in it to Toronto, so they are not selling it now I assume ?

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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 08:05
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From what I've heard TCX are to base 2x 757 both Thomas Cook aircraft and 2 x A320, 1 TCX and 1 from a 3rd party. Same setup as last year with being crewed in the cabin by TCX crew.
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 09:42
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Is your user name a clue as to where the other A320 is coming from? If not who does that leave Czech Holidays
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Old 2nd Mar 2012, 11:34
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Haha no certainly not. Wish I hadn't chosen that name now, I've worked for TCX for years then this year decided I'd take voluntary redundancy and was offered a job with Monarch, but I've decided to stay with TCX for the time being!

No idea who the A320 would come from? Small Planet Airlines?? Just a guess obviously
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Old 6th Mar 2012, 17:21
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YYZ

The airport has just sent out twitter message around 4pm
Saying that to book your flights this may ncl-YYZ discount given ends soon.

Flights must still be going ahead
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Old 6th Mar 2012, 20:30
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YYZ

Yes they are operating, all bookable on the TS website, weekly flights from YYZ on Tues to NCL via EXT, outbound from NCL on Weds non stop to YYZ. Timetable says A310, booking machine says A330, operated by Air Transat, haven't checked actual start end dates but assume May-Sept?
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Old 7th Mar 2012, 15:50
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Meanwhile...back to New York.

Jet 2 have announced the New York shopping trips for winter 2012....NCL will have two, taking place on 29th November and 6th December.
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Old 9th Mar 2012, 16:19
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New Airlines

I note that 3 new airlines appear in issue 9 of the summer charter timetable.

Mistral Air
Fly Torair
Small Planet
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Old 11th Mar 2012, 19:14
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Interesting article I picked up on re Southend. They must have a team in place there that actually have a clue as to identifying their market & getting things done, as oposed to those at NCL who continue "Daydream" as to achieving a direct NYC service to the extent of all else.
The reality is that they have for over 15 years missed the way forward that has to be fair been noted on this thread on a regular basis :-
New Ireland & USA Gateway Opens with Aer Lingus Regional, operated by Aer Arann Route Launch | Latest News | LSA - Community Relations & News | London Southend Airport
One really does have to wonder who at NCL actually thought they would see a CO or an AA emblem on looking out of their "penthouse suite" windows
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Old 11th Mar 2012, 19:55
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They must have a team in place there that actually have a clue as to identifying their market & getting things done, as oposed to those at NCL who continue "Daydream" as to achieving a direct NYC service to the extent of all else.
Yet again another PPruner who believes that reading a few press releases somehow qualifies them as an expert insider in the goings on at airport boardrooms.
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 08:33
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Can't believe someone is comparing Southend management team to ncl....!!!

Wow southend gets aer lingus to Dublin 3x daily on a 50 seater plane wow approx 150 seats a day. We have had a Dublin service for years now

NCL already has Dublin 2x daily 189 seater more seats!!!!

I'm sure our management team are really worried about what is happening at Southend!!!! I'm sure heads will roll over this... NOT

Get real......
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 09:10
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Newcastle - Dublin

Agreed - Newcastle have good link with Ryanair on 2x Daily service. However I wonder if point being made by Southend comparison is an Aer Lingus service, ticketing through to New York with pre-clearance of US Border controls in Dublin (or Shannon) would be a great advantage & may even be preferred to waiting "for ever & a day" for a direct Newcastle/NYC route with long queues at New York immigaration and customs clearance. Aer Lingus with pre-clearance means arriving in US in the same way as a domestic passenger.
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 13:58
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Get real......
Unsure where you are coming from, as you clearly have totally missed the point which is that Southend have achieved route timing on their DUB schedules that actually fit in with timings on transatlatic connections and are able to codeshare and are MARKETING these as such.
This is something that has never been achieved at NCL even though as you quite correctly state
We have had a Dublin service for years now
as to whether DUB has a 100 or 1,000 seats daily is also of NO RELEVANCE, as has little else in your outburst !
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 16:16
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When I worked at Lunn Poly in the early 90's we used to sell shed loads of EI tickets from NCL all over the States and Canada, I am sure it would work again if the timings were right and connections not too bad....
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Old 12th Mar 2012, 16:34
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Aer Lingus have had several attempts at offering a service between NCL and Dublin, the last attempt made no attempt at a USA/Canada connection vis-a-vis timings. All attempts have usually been swamped by Ryanair and led to a withdrawal of service.
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That was my point needs the right timings but it would also need a good marketing push behind it too, both to the public and the trade.
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