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Old 24th Jun 2013, 18:54
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It's a 428 seat aircraft? So 277/428 = 64% based on those numbers
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April

I make it 68% - 42 x 428 seats and 18 x 360 in April per libhomeradar

In fact I think some 354 seat aircraft operated as well so probably a bit higher.

May was different, I think just three 428 seat aircraft.

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Is this flight not operates by a mix of 428 and 364 seat aircraft. So the load factor will lie somewhere between 64 and 76%.
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May loads for comparison. All based on the usual type operating:

MAN: 55196 passengers @ 71.5% loads
BHX: 34925 passengers @ 65.8% loads
GLA: 26370 passengers @ 58.4% loads
NCL: 12918 passengers @ 47.9% loads.


I would hope there's been the odd 3 class aircraft being flown as it could be construed as a waste of the 2 class 77W going to NCL by some people. if so, loads could be improved to 56% or so. But I daresay the cargo capability is being well utilised so more than justifying the use of it on the route.

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Sorry didn't see OltonPetes reply. Is that not a respectable figure under the circumstances.
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Old 24th Jun 2013, 19:21
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I'm sure EK rarely operate the larger capacity AC into NCL
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Old 24th Jun 2013, 19:31
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Larger capacity means only business class and economy class being sold. Only GLA and MAN are scheduled for first class passengers in the regions; if NCL gets a low capacity aircraft, you need to remember the first class seats aren't being sold. This is one instance where less (seats) is more (profits).
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Old 24th Jun 2013, 19:46
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The route is scheduled as a 2 class 777 with 428 seats. At times, we do get 3 class 777s but it makes no difference to the loads (47.9 as by the information posted by ringway man).
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Old 24th Jun 2013, 20:00
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Yes but we rarely get the high density aircraft, we normally get the low density one!
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Old 24th Jun 2013, 20:21
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NCL regularly get the 428 seat 2 class. NCL rarely gets the 448 seat 2 class.
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Old 24th Jun 2013, 22:21
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So from the last few posts it would appear that the LF was about 68% in April, with about 56% in May, based on a percentage of actual seats available to seats actualy filled.

However we all know thats not the full story.

Cargo does appear to be the main factor keeping this service going, however if that is the case and the cargo loads are as high as stated then it would seem odd to put a smaller aircraft back on the route even with as many empty seats.
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Old 25th Jun 2013, 06:17
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I thought LFs were only going up though I'm sure the 12 thousand was a typo for May
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Old 25th Jun 2013, 06:52
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From post 3877

DUBAI....................12,718 + 23% UP FROM A VERY LOW BASE LAST MAY
Aren't May/June normally low? I've sort of lost track of what all the fuss is about.

NCL is punching well above its weight by having a 400 seater widebody operating a daily long haul (anybody think of a smaller airport in this position?) and if EK feel the need to revert to a smaller a/c for all/some/none (anything actually confirmed yet?!?) of the winter season, don't particularly see a problem if they can make more money with a 77W somewhere else.
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Old 25th Jun 2013, 08:45
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If it was a typo, it would have been corrected by now. (It's not by the way, I've checked).
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Old 25th Jun 2013, 10:20
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SWBKCB - totally agree.

Boris1 - you are either remarkably well informed, mainly uninformed or just stirring for the sake of it. Care to share which with all of us?
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Old 25th Jun 2013, 11:01
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Well informed. Don't personally work at NCL, currently working at a southern drome, but reside from NCL area with contacts at the drome. Anything else you wish to know? Shoe size, waist size? Is this what you get for sharing information and contributing to a post. Maybe I won't bother sharing anything I hear and let speculation continue.
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Old 25th Jun 2013, 11:31
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Boris- I thought it was you doing the speculation???
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Old 25th Jun 2013, 11:45
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Scroll down page 195, that's speculation. My first post was doing what most with info do. Pass it on! (Albeit with a hint of opinion).
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Old 25th Jun 2013, 12:30
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Boris1, did I ever know you as Brad the Impaler? GAXLN
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Old 25th Jun 2013, 12:47
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No idea what you're on about. And what is the relevance to this topic? None! Neither wonder people these days can't have a serious chat about movements etc on forums.
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