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It obviously has the market lots of UK airports have Milan links so why cant NCL have one!
Similarly Berlin has been tried and dropped before from NCL.
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Berlin, Milan and Funchal
Both Berlin and Milan had good loads and these routes did work at the start.
What went wrong with these routes were the timings of these flights.
Having the flights leaving NCL late in the evening was never going to work
However if JET2 could do the following these would work
say a 7am dept to Milan arriving back lunch time and an early afternoon to berlin and these flights would work and im sure that they could get the loadings required.
Funchal would only work if they had Thomas Cook and Thomson taking a seat allocation on the flight and the flight operated say on a Thursday.
That way Jet2 can offer a weekly flight but it would also give Thomson and Thomas Cook holidays the option of offering 10 nights along with the 7/14 nights currently offered. its a long shot of that happening in the next few years.
Zante could work along with other greek/turkish resorts
Could Jet2 pick up on Paris as another city break option not daily but say 3 x weekly??
What went wrong with these routes were the timings of these flights.
Having the flights leaving NCL late in the evening was never going to work
However if JET2 could do the following these would work
say a 7am dept to Milan arriving back lunch time and an early afternoon to berlin and these flights would work and im sure that they could get the loadings required.
Funchal would only work if they had Thomas Cook and Thomson taking a seat allocation on the flight and the flight operated say on a Thursday.
That way Jet2 can offer a weekly flight but it would also give Thomson and Thomas Cook holidays the option of offering 10 nights along with the 7/14 nights currently offered. its a long shot of that happening in the next few years.
Zante could work along with other greek/turkish resorts
Could Jet2 pick up on Paris as another city break option not daily but say 3 x weekly??
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For passengers at least the problem with Berlin in the end was timing, very late evening arrival was no use to anyone, by the time you got to the centre it was midnight. I'd like to see this restarted too but very little chance before the new Brandenburg International opens, so don't hold your breath, in very untypical German fashion it's already over 3 years late in opening and still no date confirmed but not before April 2014!
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I think Jet2 or easyjet could make a killing on a Paris flight. I know EZY didn't work at what? Almost 2 daily... But if they were to do maybe a 4-5 weekly flight, timed correctly, they really could make a lot of money because Air France cannot be described as anything other than extortionate now that they have the monopoly. Either that or I don't know if Air France upgrading to E190/A318 could bring prices down a little?
If Jet2 were to start a FNC flight it would either be on a Tuesday or a Friday, my mistake earlier thinking they flew on Mondays, (which is the 1 main UK changeover day on Madeira) I think that Jet2 and Jet2 holidays could themselves sustain a weekly 737 300 to Madeira alongside TOM's 738 flights. They appear to have done well with their x1 weekly 733 (now 738 and occasional 752) from Leeds and their x2 weekly 733 (again, now 738 and occasional 752) from Manchester. They have also now announced Funchal from East Midlands from April next year on the 737 300.
As I've already said, with the substantial expansion at GLA and EMA. I do fear for LS at NCL right now, unless something big happens this winter.
If Jet2 were to start a FNC flight it would either be on a Tuesday or a Friday, my mistake earlier thinking they flew on Mondays, (which is the 1 main UK changeover day on Madeira) I think that Jet2 and Jet2 holidays could themselves sustain a weekly 737 300 to Madeira alongside TOM's 738 flights. They appear to have done well with their x1 weekly 733 (now 738 and occasional 752) from Leeds and their x2 weekly 733 (again, now 738 and occasional 752) from Manchester. They have also now announced Funchal from East Midlands from April next year on the 737 300.
As I've already said, with the substantial expansion at GLA and EMA. I do fear for LS at NCL right now, unless something big happens this winter.
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I think you will find Easyjet to Paris was never more than daily. Only in recent years has the frequency been reduced to less than daily. Was it not one of the first Easyjet routes from NCL nearly 10 yrs ago. So it must have worked at some point.
I understand the AMS (Easyjet) will be a slightly reduced frequency next winter vs this winter. I also understand the KL loads to AMS have held up well and that the AF loads to CDG have not changed significantly since Easyjet dropped the route.
I understand the AMS (Easyjet) will be a slightly reduced frequency next winter vs this winter. I also understand the KL loads to AMS have held up well and that the AF loads to CDG have not changed significantly since Easyjet dropped the route.
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I wonder why people wish new routes on here. No offence but I'll never understand, Airlines analyze numbers, figures and website searches for places people want to fly too, ect.. They know a hell of a lot more than the majority of people proposing new routes on here, most of them have been tried or failed, it's pointless saying "well I know people who want to go to America and only want to fly from Newcastle" obviously the place has been deemed unviable or else you'd have your daily link with the Yanks; C'mon guys be realistic. Don't plan out routes that ain't going to materialize it's just pointless and time wasting why not make a makeshift spotters area or something idk.. lol
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so we'll never really know -APD is a huge player
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Falcon900LX, I don't think the point was that they were sick of the 777... I think the point was that people keep saying "people said EK wouldn't work from NCL"
Also HOW can you be sick of a 240 foot long, 210 foot wide tank of an aircraft with two, hell raisingly powerful, 8 tonne GE90-115B's strapped under some of the best, most efficient and most beautiful wings ever constructed coming into NCL every day!?!? Haha
You'd never guess I'm actually an Airbus man
Also HOW can you be sick of a 240 foot long, 210 foot wide tank of an aircraft with two, hell raisingly powerful, 8 tonne GE90-115B's strapped under some of the best, most efficient and most beautiful wings ever constructed coming into NCL every day!?!? Haha
You'd never guess I'm actually an Airbus man
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Falcon900LX, I don't think the point was that they were sick of the 777... I think the point was that people keep saying "people said EK wouldn't work from NCL"
Also HOW can you be sick of a 240 foot long, 210 foot wide tank of an aircraft with two, hell raisingly powerful, 8 tonne GE90-115B's strapped under some of the best, most efficient and most beautiful wings ever constructed coming into NCL every day!?!? Haha
You'd never guess I'm actually an Airbus man
Also HOW can you be sick of a 240 foot long, 210 foot wide tank of an aircraft with two, hell raisingly powerful, 8 tonne GE90-115B's strapped under some of the best, most efficient and most beautiful wings ever constructed coming into NCL every day!?!? Haha
You'd never guess I'm actually an Airbus man
It's big and boring, I'd much prefer the 738 or the 752 any day of the week.
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Easyjet has just bought 25 slot pairs at Gatwick from Flybe for £20m. The NCL - Gatwick service will operate until the 29th March 2014.
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