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Ah yep, I think they must of taken T9 until BEGAS.
The flight down did take 4hr 35 cruising initially at FL310 and then onto FL350 and the flight back took just under 4hrs and cruising at FL360.
The flight down did take 4hr 35 cruising initially at FL310 and then onto FL350 and the flight back took just under 4hrs and cruising at FL360.
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There was a good report in Airliner World last year with a Jet2 757 flying NCL-LPA which did exactly that.
It was cheaper to use the extra fuel than fly over land where ATC fees would be higher.
It was cheaper to use the extra fuel than fly over land where ATC fees would be higher.
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Having just booked via Netflights for November:
MAN-LHR BA 752
LHR-HKG CX 744
HKG-SYD CX 330
SYD-HKG CX 330
HKG-LHR CX 343
LHR-MAN BA 319
Anybody notice anything peculiar?
Amadeus says the domestics are all A321s while I find this a little confusing! I hope it is a 757 though! A final ride on one of these babies down to LHR would be the perfect start to the trip!
MAN-LHR BA 752
LHR-HKG CX 744
HKG-SYD CX 330
SYD-HKG CX 330
HKG-LHR CX 343
LHR-MAN BA 319
Anybody notice anything peculiar?
Amadeus says the domestics are all A321s while I find this a little confusing! I hope it is a 757 though! A final ride on one of these babies down to LHR would be the perfect start to the trip!
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Sorry...
I am a silver member of Emirates but I thought I wanted to try something different. I have done pretty much every other option and have never used CX on the A330 which I wanted to try.
I think of myself as helping to keep the shuttle going!
I am a silver member of Emirates but I thought I wanted to try something different. I have done pretty much every other option and have never used CX on the A330 which I wanted to try.
I think of myself as helping to keep the shuttle going!
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MUFC
I heard they plan to get rid of the 8 remaining
57's - by the end of Summer, so who knows a change of plan?
or just a glitch in the booking system - similar size a/c
after all.
MM
I heard they plan to get rid of the 8 remaining
57's - by the end of Summer, so who knows a change of plan?
or just a glitch in the booking system - similar size a/c
after all.
MM
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Re the "Tango" routes, I used to use them in the last Century. [Sadly, I posted them onto a "Flight Sim" website...in answer to a question..and got (rather) CASTIGATED]
OOI, Brum and East Mids also use the "Tangos"
OOI, Brum and East Mids also use the "Tangos"
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Electric News For Man
The announcement today that George Stephenson's 1830 rail line between Manchester and Liverpool is to be electrified is fantastic news for MAN. This will reduce the journey time between these two great cities and importantly between Merseyside through to MAN, and even more importantly gives MAN direct electric access to the West Coast Main Line via the Newton-Le -Willows link. Fast electric trains will be able to run from Glasgow direct to MAN.
Times have been rough recently but MAN is set to retake its destiny - to be the principal international gateway to the world from the North of England, Scotland and the Midlands. No other airport outside London can match its accessibility. The tin pot airports have had a good ride on the back of the lo-co boom, but we can now see that this is unsustainable and going pear-shaped. MAN has held on to enough of its legacy carriers to re-build and get back on track. The North can only support one main international airport and that is and always will be MAN. Time for the North to get behind its gateway airport and stop the wasteful duplication and attrition of air services. The same is true in other sectors - if we divide, we fall. Liverpool is the main sea port for the North West - let it be that and not build silly little ports at Barton. Leeds has a good financial sector - only an hour from MAN by train. All the northern cities have a strength and a role - let each play to its strengths, supporting eachother, and we will have the best chance of emerging from the South-East's shadow.
Times have been rough recently but MAN is set to retake its destiny - to be the principal international gateway to the world from the North of England, Scotland and the Midlands. No other airport outside London can match its accessibility. The tin pot airports have had a good ride on the back of the lo-co boom, but we can now see that this is unsustainable and going pear-shaped. MAN has held on to enough of its legacy carriers to re-build and get back on track. The North can only support one main international airport and that is and always will be MAN. Time for the North to get behind its gateway airport and stop the wasteful duplication and attrition of air services. The same is true in other sectors - if we divide, we fall. Liverpool is the main sea port for the North West - let it be that and not build silly little ports at Barton. Leeds has a good financial sector - only an hour from MAN by train. All the northern cities have a strength and a role - let each play to its strengths, supporting eachother, and we will have the best chance of emerging from the South-East's shadow.
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I agree it will benefit MAN massively yet I doubt we will see LPL, LBA, GLA, EDI, NCL etc. all go down the pan so soon.
The only way I can see MAN is going is upwards and this article yesterday does highlight a few areas (posted earlier but seems to have moved so new link):
Rosy Future? | Trifter
As I said, I think the airport will be benefiting from so many different changes that are being made/happening.
The only way I can see MAN is going is upwards and this article yesterday does highlight a few areas (posted earlier but seems to have moved so new link):
Rosy Future? | Trifter
As I said, I think the airport will be benefiting from so many different changes that are being made/happening.
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to be the principal international gateway to the world from the North of England, Scotland
Get real.
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Mouser,
I'm a MAN fan yes, of course, and I''m bleating on in support of the airport. But have a look again at the deeper thread of my argument. What I am arguing goes beyond airports and to the heart of the whole socio-economic well-being of the North of England, as envisaged by 'The Northern Way 'et al.
The region cannot sustain multiple international airports - they will (and are), defeating eachother. Manchester has the best infrastructure and connectivity to act as the international air hub for the region. Similarly Liverpool has the sea port infrastructure and is well-placed to provide the links with the world beyond the EU, and so should not be undermined by developments such as that proposed for Barton on the Manchester Ship Canal. Leeds has a financial and legal sector which can benefit from good international air links. The way to provide these is to improve the already good rail and road links to MAN rather than duplicate air services and undermine the critical mass by more lo-cos into Leeds/Bradford. Hull provides the sea port links to the EU. What I am saying is that the belt of cities along the M62 corridor can support eachother to build a stronger northern region. If they complete for the same sectors they will simply undermine eachother and feed the South East dominance. It isn't a case of 'Manchester is great', it is simply saying let each city offer and contribute what it can best provide to the region.
The problem we face is that this country has let the private sector run wild, doing what the markets do best - seek the best short-term returns on capital for the benefit of shareholders (often overseas investors). I'm proud that MAN is one of the few remaining British-owned and publicly owned airports in this country. What we as stakeholders in this region need is a stable platform of structured transport provision which will stimulate sustainable (in the economic sense as well as environmental) economies. This requires co-operation and connectivity.
I'm a MAN fan yes, of course, and I''m bleating on in support of the airport. But have a look again at the deeper thread of my argument. What I am arguing goes beyond airports and to the heart of the whole socio-economic well-being of the North of England, as envisaged by 'The Northern Way 'et al.
The region cannot sustain multiple international airports - they will (and are), defeating eachother. Manchester has the best infrastructure and connectivity to act as the international air hub for the region. Similarly Liverpool has the sea port infrastructure and is well-placed to provide the links with the world beyond the EU, and so should not be undermined by developments such as that proposed for Barton on the Manchester Ship Canal. Leeds has a financial and legal sector which can benefit from good international air links. The way to provide these is to improve the already good rail and road links to MAN rather than duplicate air services and undermine the critical mass by more lo-cos into Leeds/Bradford. Hull provides the sea port links to the EU. What I am saying is that the belt of cities along the M62 corridor can support eachother to build a stronger northern region. If they complete for the same sectors they will simply undermine eachother and feed the South East dominance. It isn't a case of 'Manchester is great', it is simply saying let each city offer and contribute what it can best provide to the region.
The problem we face is that this country has let the private sector run wild, doing what the markets do best - seek the best short-term returns on capital for the benefit of shareholders (often overseas investors). I'm proud that MAN is one of the few remaining British-owned and publicly owned airports in this country. What we as stakeholders in this region need is a stable platform of structured transport provision which will stimulate sustainable (in the economic sense as well as environmental) economies. This requires co-operation and connectivity.
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to be the principal international gateway to the world from the North of England, Scotland
Ill get out my laughing policeman tape......
We lost any hope of that when the airport peeeed away opportunities with
just about every longhaul airline which has tried and failed.
Its great to see the optimism on here suggesting "they might come in" or "this airline might come".
Lost opportunites i'm afraid !
Ill get out my laughing policeman tape......
We lost any hope of that when the airport peeeed away opportunities with
just about every longhaul airline which has tried and failed.
Its great to see the optimism on here suggesting "they might come in" or "this airline might come".
Lost opportunites i'm afraid !
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Please can we stop this drivel and return to the manchester AIRPORT forum.
Most pax want to use an airport convenient to them if possible. Most prefer a choice. Although I fly approximately 30 times per year, to worldwide destinations, I have only used MAN, LGW and LHR once each (not even return) in the past 5 years. This is for various factors.
For example, to fly to Peru, I flew EZY LPL/MAD, Iberia MAD/LIM and Star LIM/CUZ. I took this option as I saved considerably on the long haul tax as well as overall fares as I deliberately chose not to interline. Okay so its a bit of a hassle re-checking in, but I saved overall more than £200.00p. With that saving I booked into the executive lounge for a mere £12.00p, making the overall experience not bad. (I have to say however that the Iberia experience is even worse than BA and Flyglobespan, so its not all plainsailing!)
A couple of years ago I flew GLA to Orlando. Why? It was during the school holidays in England, but in Scotland they return by mid-August. Therefore for a family of 4 it was £1,600 cheaper in total than the cheapest option from MAN for the same fortnight. This meant an additional 2.1/4 hour drive in each direction, but I also took in a days sightseeing at GLA as my preference. Overall it was actually a good experience, as well as cheap.
Please do not presume that anyone outside of MAN see MAN as a first choice, even within the Northwest. Its always best to have a choice. Please continue to support your airport but enough is enough of my city is bigger or not than yours rubbish and all of the associated drivel.
Most pax want to use an airport convenient to them if possible. Most prefer a choice. Although I fly approximately 30 times per year, to worldwide destinations, I have only used MAN, LGW and LHR once each (not even return) in the past 5 years. This is for various factors.
For example, to fly to Peru, I flew EZY LPL/MAD, Iberia MAD/LIM and Star LIM/CUZ. I took this option as I saved considerably on the long haul tax as well as overall fares as I deliberately chose not to interline. Okay so its a bit of a hassle re-checking in, but I saved overall more than £200.00p. With that saving I booked into the executive lounge for a mere £12.00p, making the overall experience not bad. (I have to say however that the Iberia experience is even worse than BA and Flyglobespan, so its not all plainsailing!)
A couple of years ago I flew GLA to Orlando. Why? It was during the school holidays in England, but in Scotland they return by mid-August. Therefore for a family of 4 it was £1,600 cheaper in total than the cheapest option from MAN for the same fortnight. This meant an additional 2.1/4 hour drive in each direction, but I also took in a days sightseeing at GLA as my preference. Overall it was actually a good experience, as well as cheap.
Please do not presume that anyone outside of MAN see MAN as a first choice, even within the Northwest. Its always best to have a choice. Please continue to support your airport but enough is enough of my city is bigger or not than yours rubbish and all of the associated drivel.
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For example, to fly to Peru, I flew EZY LPL/MAD, Iberia MAD/LIM and Star LIM/CUZ.
You'd have been bollo*ed had your U2 LPL-MAD been cancelled/delayed.
Personally, I won't risk mixing locos and scheds for long haul travel, just too risky.
If you had done MAN-AMS-LIM, you would have had more protection in the case of any sector failure. Worth the extra cost, in my view.
See, MAN has some advantages!