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That is your interpretation of that particular set of words, which you have taken out of context TSR2.
Let me try to explain further with a few examples.
Cabin announcement on landing at AGP: " Please remember that on YOUR RETURN flight to Manchester......" Makes the assumption that you will be making a return flight BACK to MAN with that airline. The announcement is never made on a flight from AGP landing at MAN.
Cabin senior, on realising that you are not ammused with her crass throw away comments, on your flight having been changed and not having the seats paid for, on boarding at MAN " Why are you not happy, you will soon be on holiday"........"no I'm going home!"
On reporting damaged bag in the UK: "Can I have your UK address please?"
" I live abroad. I have given you that address " You MUST have a UK address, as you are British. now can I have that?"
"Welcome to Malaga.........enjoy your holiday!" You never get "Welcome to Manchester, enjoy your holiday/stay."
" How long have you been away on holiday for?" question asked by member of HMC&R at Manchester.
Car park bus driver at MAN " When you return from holiday sir, the pick up point is....." "I'm not coming back " As I said sir, when you return...."
As regards aircraft crew mainly found, with those who work for carriers some days on scheduled services and other days on charters.
It's a mindset and training problem.
Let me try to explain further with a few examples.
Cabin announcement on landing at AGP: " Please remember that on YOUR RETURN flight to Manchester......" Makes the assumption that you will be making a return flight BACK to MAN with that airline. The announcement is never made on a flight from AGP landing at MAN.
Cabin senior, on realising that you are not ammused with her crass throw away comments, on your flight having been changed and not having the seats paid for, on boarding at MAN " Why are you not happy, you will soon be on holiday"........"no I'm going home!"
On reporting damaged bag in the UK: "Can I have your UK address please?"
" I live abroad. I have given you that address " You MUST have a UK address, as you are British. now can I have that?"
"Welcome to Malaga.........enjoy your holiday!" You never get "Welcome to Manchester, enjoy your holiday/stay."
" How long have you been away on holiday for?" question asked by member of HMC&R at Manchester.
Car park bus driver at MAN " When you return from holiday sir, the pick up point is....." "I'm not coming back " As I said sir, when you return...."
As regards aircraft crew mainly found, with those who work for carriers some days on scheduled services and other days on charters.
It's a mindset and training problem.
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Excuse me but you sound like the passenger from hell!!
I actually feel sorry for anybody who has you on their
aeroplane - passenger or crew.
I am sure that every reader of your last post will have
an impression of you now.
Well done.
MM
Excuse me but you sound like the passenger from hell!!
I actually feel sorry for anybody who has you on their
aeroplane - passenger or crew.
I am sure that every reader of your last post will have
an impression of you now.
Well done.
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Clearly....you are in the massive MINORITY.......
why would anyone change their announcements to suit this?
Just get over it and enjoy the fact that you live in the sun and we have to come home to this god awful weather!!
why would anyone change their announcements to suit this?
Just get over it and enjoy the fact that you live in the sun and we have to come home to this god awful weather!!
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There you go, two UK dwellers who "put up" with their lot and help make up the silent majority!
I thought twice before posting examples of what I meant, as I feared a reaction like that. However the case needed presenting. If you have something positive and constructive to input/counter with, then fine.
Why should an airline not have different announcements for it's scheduled and charter services? It would seem to make sense.
However trading insults is not the route to go down, if you don't like what is posted.
I thought twice before posting examples of what I meant, as I feared a reaction like that. However the case needed presenting. If you have something positive and constructive to input/counter with, then fine.
Why should an airline not have different announcements for it's scheduled and charter services? It would seem to make sense.
However trading insults is not the route to go down, if you don't like what is posted.
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I actually feel sorry for anybody who has you on their
aeroplane - passenger or crew.
aeroplane - passenger or crew.
I am sure that every reader of your last post will have
an impression of you now.'
an impression of you now.'
you sound like the passenger from hell!!
The examples I used, apart from, one, are minor annoyances that have occured, but help to prove my point.
How many more times do you need telling to stop attacking people because you simply don't like what they say?
I find your quotations above to be personally offensive and without cause.
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...the case needed presenting
I make mental notes of any problem and if serious enough write to the airline/airport concerned
Why should an airline not have different announcements for it's scheduled and charter services? It would seem to make sense.
It's a mindset and training problem
If it were necessary to make a PA for you, because you live in Spain and are not on holiday, then it is necessary to make a tailor made PA to every passenger on board that aircraft that are doing different things other than going on holiday.
"enjoy your business meeting"...."hope the funeral goes well"...."congratulations"..."comiserations"...."happy wedding day"....
The Announcement would need to start the wheels left the ground so as to fit it all in....
Just relax, enjoyu the ride, and don't get all fret up about a PA that is not specifically aimed at an individual......
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He's not. He's upset becasue it's aimed at a group of which he is not part. His point is, it's not neutral. Imagine going to Paris on business every week and being repeatedly asked if you enjoyed the Eiffel Tower....
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Imagine going to Paris on business every week and being repeatedly asked if you enjoyed the Eiffel Tower....
does it REALLY matter that much....honestly?
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Envoy. Now those multi announcements you suggest are clearly not necessary and are being plain silly.
On scheduled flights, there is no need to make any mention of holiday/return flight and a simple eg:"welcome to Manchester/Malaga" with additional local information,as required. Yes, by all means mention, if deemed necessary, that if you are taking another flight with this airline in the future, then remember....quote cabin baggage policy. ..That's all that is required.
The problem in the UK is that some airlines want their feet in both the scheduled and the charter camps and think that "one size, metaphorically speaking, fits all".
No, but usually once a month. I'm pleased that Skippyness sees my point.
I have, as stated previously, got away from these annoying occurances by flying, mainly with Easyjet and occasionally BA, to the UK. In Spain it's Spanair and Vueling.
On scheduled flights, there is no need to make any mention of holiday/return flight and a simple eg:"welcome to Manchester/Malaga" with additional local information,as required. Yes, by all means mention, if deemed necessary, that if you are taking another flight with this airline in the future, then remember....quote cabin baggage policy. ..That's all that is required.
The problem in the UK is that some airlines want their feet in both the scheduled and the charter camps and think that "one size, metaphorically speaking, fits all".
I assume he doesnt come to the uk EVERY week.....
I have, as stated previously, got away from these annoying occurances by flying, mainly with Easyjet and occasionally BA, to the UK. In Spain it's Spanair and Vueling.
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IB.....
There IS need to mention things to passengers these days due to the society we live in and people being quite happy to take anyone and everyone to court at the drop of a hat for not being told things that most people would see as common sense.....
Remember...you may be travelling on a scheduled service but from/to a predeominantly "holiday" based destination for uk residents.
And to avoid an airline because of an anouncement that says enjoy your holiday when you are in fact - going home - well...that just sums you up completely.
There IS need to mention things to passengers these days due to the society we live in and people being quite happy to take anyone and everyone to court at the drop of a hat for not being told things that most people would see as common sense.....
Remember...you may be travelling on a scheduled service but from/to a predeominantly "holiday" based destination for uk residents.
And to avoid an airline because of an anouncement that says enjoy your holiday when you are in fact - going home - well...that just sums you up completely.
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ENOUGH!
Two pages worth of beating a dead horse only vaguely related to the thread topic is quite beyond reason.
Further discussion of pet peeves, announcements or comments by Cabin Crews, Flight Deck Crews, or Airline Ground Staff is not welcome and will draw moderator action.
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Two pages worth of beating a dead horse only vaguely related to the thread topic is quite beyond reason.
Further discussion of pet peeves, announcements or comments by Cabin Crews, Flight Deck Crews, or Airline Ground Staff is not welcome and will draw moderator action.
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No probs.
If you are lucky you will get a TOM long haul configured a/c with IFE etc. I think the FCA aircraft only fly long haul but if they do do some shorter flights then that is the aircraft you want! I'll be on board a TOM 767 in a couple of weeks time!
Just hope it has IFE...
P.S. For anyone who wants MAN schedules and aircraft please see:
timetables.oag.com/MAN
If you are lucky you will get a TOM long haul configured a/c with IFE etc. I think the FCA aircraft only fly long haul but if they do do some shorter flights then that is the aircraft you want! I'll be on board a TOM 767 in a couple of weeks time!
Just hope it has IFE...P.S. For anyone who wants MAN schedules and aircraft please see:
timetables.oag.com/MAN
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I went through MAN on Saturday (Twice after a day in Dublin) and upon returning on FR556, we were bussed around to T1 arrivals and much to our surprise, there was no form of immigration, it was straight into the baggage hall and then through customs and out. Is there any particular reason for that?
Also, just want to say what a pleasure it was to go through, Saturday morning it was packed, there was a fairly lengthy queue for security but it was moving at a fair old pace, all the channels were open, we must have been through and on the other side within 10 minutes of entering the building.
Also, just want to say what a pleasure it was to go through, Saturday morning it was packed, there was a fairly lengthy queue for security but it was moving at a fair old pace, all the channels were open, we must have been through and on the other side within 10 minutes of entering the building.
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Uk and Eire operate a common travel arrangement (Much older than Schengan)
This allows UK, Eire and other EU citizens to travel paper free. (No passport or ID document or immigration necessary)
However customs and excise formalities still apply and therefore is an international flight.
Other national are however supposed to go through immigration proceedings as applicable.
This allows UK, Eire and other EU citizens to travel paper free. (No passport or ID document or immigration necessary)
However customs and excise formalities still apply and therefore is an international flight.
Other national are however supposed to go through immigration proceedings as applicable.