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Discussion yesterday revealed that the Manchester Polish community now assume it is 'normal' to trek down the M56 to LPL for trips back home. MAN is no longer in the equation.
....yep case in point, re our daily LOT 737 service !
....yep case in point, re our daily LOT 737 service !
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In the original public enquiry for R2 at Manchester the
predicted growth of aviation in the northwest allowed
both Liverpool and Manchester to benefit.
There was some argument from protesters that this
would not happen to both airports because the projections
for growth were overstated.
It would be interesting to see the projected figures for
Liverpool that were given (by 2010) and how much this
was 'out' by - if atall?
Do I remember rightly that Liverpool was to be the Lo-cost
airporrt of the north whilst Manchester would concentrate
on the other market ie:Long-haul/Legacy ? or is my
memory playing tricks.
To complain about Liverpool 'taking our business' is a little
off given that passengers vote with their feet.I think
Manchester has punched above its weight for far too long
and is now in a reality-check period.The Long-haul market
(as it is now)is quite good for a regional airport.
MM
predicted growth of aviation in the northwest allowed
both Liverpool and Manchester to benefit.
There was some argument from protesters that this
would not happen to both airports because the projections
for growth were overstated.
It would be interesting to see the projected figures for
Liverpool that were given (by 2010) and how much this
was 'out' by - if atall?
Do I remember rightly that Liverpool was to be the Lo-cost
airporrt of the north whilst Manchester would concentrate
on the other market ie:Long-haul/Legacy ? or is my
memory playing tricks.
To complain about Liverpool 'taking our business' is a little
off given that passengers vote with their feet.I think
Manchester has punched above its weight for far too long
and is now in a reality-check period.The Long-haul market
(as it is now)is quite good for a regional airport.
MM
BIMAN
Anyone know what the latest start date and schedules are for Biman?
Other websites seem to indicate 28th March but I can't seem to find anything other than rumour.
Other websites seem to indicate 28th March but I can't seem to find anything other than rumour.
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If you have it, a better trend analysis might be to show those airports at their peak over this period which have sebsequently fallen back. I suspect MAN experienced the greatest year on year increase against its "own" figures followed sadly by an almost identical decline.
When 2009 is compared against peak year :-
Birmingham - 9,102,960 / 9,628,254 (2008) - 5.5% below peak
Heathrow - 66,027,456 / 68,066,028 (2007) - 3.0% below peak
Gatwick - 32,392,943 / 35,216,113 (2007) - 8.0% below peak
Manchester - 18,724,889 / 22,442,855 (2006) - 16.6% below peak
Stansted - 19,957,077 / 23,779,697 (2007) - 16.1% below paek
Glasgow - 7,225,021 / 8,848,755 (2006) - 18.3% below peak
Luton - 9,120,546 / 10,180,734 (2008) - 10.4% below peak
Edinburgh - 9,049,355 / 9,049,355 (2009) - at peak
East Midlands - 4,658,149 / 5,620,673 (2008) - 17.1% below peak
Belfast Int - 4,546,475 / 5,272,664 (2007) - 13.8% below peak
Bristol - 5,642,921 / 6,267,114 (2008) - 10.0% below peak
Newcastle - 4,587,883 / 5,650,716 (2007) - 18.8% below peak
Liverpool - 4,884,494 / 5,468,510 (2007) - 10.7% below peak
Whole UK - 218,645,809 / 241,685,000 (2007) - 9.5% below peak
If you have it, a better trend analysis might be to show those airports at their peak over this period which have sebsequently fallen back. I suspect MAN experienced the greatest year on year increase against its "own" figures followed sadly by an almost identical decline.
When 2009 is compared against peak year :-
Birmingham - 9,102,960 / 9,628,254 (2008) - 5.5% below peak
Heathrow - 66,027,456 / 68,066,028 (2007) - 3.0% below peak
Gatwick - 32,392,943 / 35,216,113 (2007) - 8.0% below peak
Manchester - 18,724,889 / 22,442,855 (2006) - 16.6% below peak
Stansted - 19,957,077 / 23,779,697 (2007) - 16.1% below paek
Glasgow - 7,225,021 / 8,848,755 (2006) - 18.3% below peak
Luton - 9,120,546 / 10,180,734 (2008) - 10.4% below peak
Edinburgh - 9,049,355 / 9,049,355 (2009) - at peak
East Midlands - 4,658,149 / 5,620,673 (2008) - 17.1% below peak
Belfast Int - 4,546,475 / 5,272,664 (2007) - 13.8% below peak
Bristol - 5,642,921 / 6,267,114 (2008) - 10.0% below peak
Newcastle - 4,587,883 / 5,650,716 (2007) - 18.8% below peak
Liverpool - 4,884,494 / 5,468,510 (2007) - 10.7% below peak
Whole UK - 218,645,809 / 241,685,000 (2007) - 9.5% below peak
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About time.
Right, next item on the agenda - demolish Pier B and build a new Pier capable of handling A380's, is on two levels for departing and arriving passengers and is cleaner, warmer (in the winter), doesn't have horrible looking carpet, decent information screens and comfortable seating.
Think Pier C will need some of the above improvments but maybe without the demolition, it must be cramped when the Emrites flight is in?!
Right, next item on the agenda - demolish Pier B and build a new Pier capable of handling A380's, is on two levels for departing and arriving passengers and is cleaner, warmer (in the winter), doesn't have horrible looking carpet, decent information screens and comfortable seating.
Think Pier C will need some of the above improvments but maybe without the demolition, it must be cramped when the Emrites flight is in?!
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Cargo growth
No-one seems to have picked up that cargo at MAN during February was 18.5% up on the same month in 2009. This figure has been incorrectly reported in some quarters as a downturn. A trend to growth is emerging, going back to December 2009, and reversing the downturns seen over the last 12-18 months. Cathay are back to 7 or 8 B744Fs a week through MAN, and with the -8F to be on the fleet early next year.
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Their is now a football charter MUC-MAN by AirBerlin for 7/8th April. This caused theairdb to tell people there is a CGN-MAN (as AirBerlin has very frequent CGN-MUC). Was getting overexited as I thought they'd restart the old TUIFly service. But of course, we have DUS services on LH and BE and Germanwings already.
Well, the Biman 777 failed to turn up today.
Why am I not suprised?
Lufthansa are laying on a A340-300 for the Bayern Munich team on the 6th March too.
SIA start the 777-300ER via MUC tomorrow.
What's all the scuttlebutt about Emirates making some announcement soon?
Why am I not suprised?Lufthansa are laying on a A340-300 for the Bayern Munich team on the 6th March too.
SIA start the 777-300ER via MUC tomorrow.
What's all the scuttlebutt about Emirates making some announcement soon?
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TURIN, the emirates rumour is from another forum (flyertalk). the poster is very accurate with his info (everything he has said has come to fruition regarding services)
He states EK17/18 is the next A380 destination after PEK (recently announced) and that an announcement is due soon. On top of that, EK19/20 is due to be a 3 class B773 from sept, so there is strong speculation that a 3rd daily is also to be annpunced, as an A388 and 3 class B773 combination is actually a reduction of seats at MAN, and we are already maxing out our uplifts as it is.
Like I say, given his timing and accuracy so far, I have no reason to doubt it.
BTW tomorrows SQ is 9V-SWT. I know reggies are frowned upon here but saves people running for it if they dont need it.
He states EK17/18 is the next A380 destination after PEK (recently announced) and that an announcement is due soon. On top of that, EK19/20 is due to be a 3 class B773 from sept, so there is strong speculation that a 3rd daily is also to be annpunced, as an A388 and 3 class B773 combination is actually a reduction of seats at MAN, and we are already maxing out our uplifts as it is.
Like I say, given his timing and accuracy so far, I have no reason to doubt it.
BTW tomorrows SQ is 9V-SWT. I know reggies are frowned upon here but saves people running for it if they dont need it.
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Vs 747-400 G-vlip
Today I filmed G-VLIP landing at EGCC, at the aviation viewing park, so I thought I would post it on here as a few people might have seen me recording 
YouTube - 104.AVI
YouTube - 104.AVI
wanna be there
Thanks for that, didn't know about the 773 in Sep. A reduction in seats eh? What time of day would a 3rd flight be do you think? Late morning?
Thanks for that, didn't know about the 773 in Sep. A reduction in seats eh? What time of day would a 3rd flight be do you think? Late morning?