MANCHESTER - 7

[Ian Brooks]

Hi Pete
I think the EY B773 are having a reconfigue to 415 or somewhere in that region

Ian B

[OltonPete]

EY

Cheers Ian.

I know it was unlikely that EY would make a gaff like that but I had not seen any reports of a new seating layout on the 777. I got a link to
the EY site showing 378 still and I must admit I thought it sounded quite
generous compared to EK's 427/428/442 configs.

Pete

[AirLCY]

EK squeeze 10 abreast on the 777's where as EY have the more common 9 abreast config, perhaps they're changing this to 10 abreast like EK???

[Ringwayman]

One article doesn't expressly say 10 across but makes the observation that "the current EY Y class cabin on 77Ws seat 350 passengers but that it is known that 384 passengers would be in the Y cabin"

[Manchester Exile]

Etihad Load Factors

I flew out of Ringway on the Etihad flight last Saturday (13th Feb). The flight was booked at quite short notice, and I tried to fly their Pearl Business cabin, but it was fully booked, so I had to sit in Coral Economy down the back. The flight was packed - I ased the crew what the load was, and they said there was one spare seat in economy.

[MAN777]

Snoclo again

Etihad and Qatar both diverted to London due snow at MAN (about 2 inches)

[Suzeman]

Last 6 hours

EGCC 210750Z 10003KT 3000 -SN SCT003 BKN011 M00/M00 Q0990=
EGCC 210720Z 07006KT 040V100 0600 R05L/P1500 -SN BKN003 M00/M00 Q0990=
EGCC 210650Z 08006KT 0400 R05L/0900 SN BKN003 M00/M00 Q0990=
EGCC 210620Z 08005KT 0900 R05L/1400 SN BKN004 00/M00 Q0991=
EGCC 210550Z 09006KT 2400 -SN SCT006 BKN008 00/M00 Q0991=
EGCC 210520Z 12008KT 2400 -SN SCT006 BKN010 00/M00 Q0992=
EGCC 210450Z 13004KT 4500 -SHSN SCT009 SCT012 01/M00 Q0992=
EGCC 210420Z 13004KT 8000 -SHSN FEW017 SCT021 01/M01 Q0993=
EGCC 210350Z 15006KT 9999 -SHSN FEW033 01/M01 Q0993=
EGCC 210320Z AUTO 14006KT 9999NDV FEW037/// 01/M02 Q0993=

Airport managed to stay open until approx 0630.

Suzeman

[Ian Brooks]

See you bought weather back with you Suzeman


Ian B

[AirLCY]

EY are changing their economy config to 10 abreast which adds 34 seats or something, which is a shame, but I guess good for MAN with extra seats.

[daynehold]

Snow Closed

Relatively light snow fall (at least in South Manchester) and the Airport Authority is again struggling to stay open - significant take off delays a couple of hours ago - the proverbial "drinking session in a brewery" is the only apt way of describing the situation

[Ringwayman]

Did you see the METARS? Do you understand them? What's the point in sweeping snow off the runway only to see more return? Closure was around 0630 to 0900.

Birmingham was closed as was East Midlands but you never see criticism of them. MAN handled a Dublin diversion last night due snow, and on Friday evening there were around 10 diversions from Birmingham.

[IB4138]

Relatively light snow fall (at least in South Manchester)

Exactly daynehold. That may be the case where you are, but not at the airport or for that matter on Hough Hill in Stalybridge, which is on the approach, before passing over Stockport and had about 4 inches of snow fall on it early this morning. Additionally, on the railways, only two platforms were open at Crewe this morning, because of amount of snow fall.

Strikes me that by your lack of knowledge of prevailing weather conditions, that you must be employed by the Met Office or some other weather guessing institution.

[MAN777]

Here we go again,

Snow problems

MAN sits around and waits for the snow to stop then clears it at whatever rate is dictated by equipment and staff availability. Makes sense really when you have limited resources.

There is not much point in criticising the ops staff who have to manage with what they have got. Unless there are major funding and equipment changes (unlikely) then I think that nothing will change.

Its all been said before and there is nothing more to add.

Its Birminghams turn again tomorrow according to the BBC

[Ringwayman]

Don't be too surprised if Tuesday and/or Wedneday sees a flake or 2 million hit the airport again.

[mrmagooo]

How many times must it snow and shut the airport before it is considered not freak weather and investment in equipment needed? In the past year we have had some extraordinary snowfall but if you believe global warming theories etc, then it will continue to get worse in the long run........

[Ringwayman]

As soon as someone can have a greater degree of certainty that the equipment is going to be needed on more than 4 or 5 times every 30 years.

[Ian Brooks]

All seem well handled today as it was very wet snow and fell very quickly
over a shortish period and and left about 4ins which was cleared in just over 2 hours


Ian B

[lexoncd]

Pathetic response to the conditions which like it or not happen year after year. Since having two runways the airport suffers from more delays than ever before....

[daynehold]

Manchester Snow Closed

Strikes me that by your lack of knowledge of prevailing weather conditions, that you must be employed by the Met Office or some other weather guessing institution.

Sorry you are wrong, employed by the Department of Common Sense - unfortunately we are finding it difficult to recruit suitable people!!!

[750XL]

I was at the airport today and it was coming down thick and fast from 4am onwards. There was quite a large fleet of snow clearing equipment around the airfield keeping the stands clear. I'd love to know what people here would suggest MAPLC should do to reduce the delays?

2-3 inches of snow at MAN and 4 miles down the road at my home there was next to nothing.