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Old 9th Feb 2012, 22:37
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Westjet/175

Westjet Most forums seem to say it is a done deal with new Q400NG's but I suppose it might be a case of putting two and two together.

175's

It is now a couple of months into service is there any progress report as to dispatch reliability (seems excellent at BHX like the 195 was when it started) and how is the the fuel burn performance standing up what was promised/stated and compared to the Q400?

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Old 9th Feb 2012, 23:12
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Following from OP post, also has the pax numbers on the DUS increased now the jet is on the route instead of the Q400?
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Interim statement released by Flybe this morning. Makes for an interesting read (if you like that sort of thing):

Interim Management Statement - London Stock Exchange

Of particular interest is the amount of money generated by the Flybe-Finnair Joint Venture. Revenues of £25m in the first quarter of its existence? Let's hope there's more of that for the next few years. I'm not sure what the profit is going to be out of that, but I'd expect Flybe to do alright out of it (they usually do!).

Couple this along with any 'opportunities' along the way and perhaps there's a bit of a bright(ish) future emerging here?
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Old 10th Feb 2012, 14:31
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So, what's the latest on the Brussels Airlines wetlease of 5 Q400s: is it signed already?

Saw a flybe team at BRU today and SN as good as announced extra wetlease Q400 operations (they've mentioned 5 planes) to replace/enhance both the bmi regional E-jets as well as the Austrian Arrows Q400 operations that currently operate on behalf of them and in order to deploy them on their thinnest regional routes, like for instance BRU-TRN.

Any news on whether this wetlease agreement will also include a codeshare on BRU-MAN, given both airlines are now competing on that route?

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Old 10th Feb 2012, 15:15
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175's

Similar to what Boing7117 posted

Trading remains challenging at Flybe

A little bit more in respect of the 175's - just six more in the 2012/3 per
the article.

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Old 10th Feb 2012, 16:00
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ohhhhhh noooooo!

SN146... Don't let WingoWango see your post.

This might affect the share price.... we might lose the contract.... is there a contract? Is it a rumour...?
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Some people are suffering from paranoia, indeed.

I'd like to know about the practical issues that come with the swap from bmi regional / Austrian Arrows to flybe:

1- will the planes be painted in SN colours

2- will they operate (also) with SN cabin crew

3- will there also be a codeshare agreement between BE and SN on BRU-MAN?

Given it is a fairly important contract and for a longer period, it would definitely be possible: when Sabena wetleased ATRs from schreiner, they got the livery and cabin crew from SN too.
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Old 10th Feb 2012, 20:35
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1- will the planes be painted in SN colours

2- will they operate (also) with SN cabin crew
BE have operated some of there DH4 under a long term lease agreement before. They leased aircraft's and crew to Olympic Air when it was relaunched back in 2009 until late 2010. All 4 DH4's operated under the UK regs but wore the OA livery. I am not sure if the crews wore the uniform to.

BD operate between 2 & 3 flights daily to BRS and NCL. If SN did decide to replace BD's ER4's with DH4's it would increase the number of available seats on each flight by 29. Is there really the demand for these routes to support such a capacity increase
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Old 10th Feb 2012, 22:11
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To answer your question the Dh4's offer the extra 29 seats at the same fuel burn if not better then the 145's. So effectively they are free seats to fill or not to fill.
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Old 11th Feb 2012, 15:11
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Wingo

He/she actually needs to grow up, what an obnoxious reply from him/her . He's probably leaving the company so he doesn't care what information he posts about the company, or what effect it has. But for those who want to stay it is potentially damaging and he/she should know better. Good riddance is what I say.
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Old 11th Feb 2012, 19:00
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MAN & BHX?
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Old 11th Feb 2012, 19:49
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It would be nice to have 1 or 2 down at SOU especially when you consider some of the longer routes the Q400's currently fly:

Avignon
Perpignan
Salzburg
Verona

All of which are 2hrs+ segments on the Q400.

And of course the E175's opens up the possibility of new routes:

Barcelona
Copenhagen
Stuttgart
Hamburg
Munich
Milan
Madrid
Warsaw
Toulouse
Mariselle

I should really say that all of the above are merely suggestions, with some being more likely/viable than others!
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Obnoxious is a little extreme - I guess he or she was just trying to prove a point rightly or wrongly. However assuming we are all adults on this forum maybe those involved can move on now.

Wingo - will it be one delivery every 2 months?
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 09:04
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Glasgow are due at least 1 Embraer from what i hear. I know that the Cardiff - Glasgow was supposed to be on a 195 then 170 on Sunday's in Summer 2011 before the delay in delivery.
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 09:27
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Whilst it would be good to have the E175 based at Southampton, there wouldn't be enough room for one in the summer unless it replaced an Embraer E195, which is unlikely given the amount of summer routes it will be doing in 2012.

I think the aircraft stands need to be re-arranged first, maybe we'll see them based in 2013?
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 09:31
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GLA

mathers_wales_uk

Correct a 195 was or should I say is due at GLA per GDS although it has been delayed three months for some reason.

It was clear that the Inverness 195 was to move to Glasgow once the 175 was delivered to operate GLA-BHX-GLA-EXT-GLA-BHX-GLA-BHX-GLA Monday to Friday.

The 175 arrived but the 195 seemed originally to go to BHX as another spare although that was brief. Per GDS the 195 is due to start GLA-BHX next Monday but I couldn't find a CWL Sunday flight with the 195.

I did a sample check of the flights for one week in June and it seemed 60 aircraft required with 67 in the fleet plus any new 175's and less any that might be spirited away to Brussels.

I thought the talk was of a small loss (8.5m) and route cuts rather than expansion.

Flybe fuels fears for full-year losses as it posts flat revenues | This is Money

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Old 14th Feb 2012, 12:13
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Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this but...

I booked a return Flybe flight on Opodo going out next Thursday (23rd) and coming back the following Monday (27th).

I want to change my outbound flight to this Friday (17th) but keep my inbound flight on Monday 27th. From a quick Google search Opodo and FlyBe charge a fee for changing the outbound flight plus the full fare so obviously it would be cheaper just to book a single and not cancel/change the orignal outbound.

So my question is, what happens if I don't turnup for the outbound flight next Thursday BUT turnup for the inbound on Monday (27th), will I be accepted onto the flight or will the FlyBe assume because I was a 'no-show' on the Thursday outbound that I never made it to the destination and thus cancel my inbound flight?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 14th Feb 2012, 12:29
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Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this but...

I booked a return Flybe flight on Opodo going out next Thursday (23rd) and coming back the following Monday (27th).

I want to change my outbound flight to this Friday (17th) but keep my inbound flight on Monday 27th. From a quick Google search Opodo and FlyBe charge a fee for changing the outbound flight plus the full fare so obviously it would be cheaper just to book a single and not cancel/change the orignal outbound.

So my question is, what happens if I don't turnup for the outbound flight next Thursday BUT turnup for the inbound on Monday (27th), will I be accepted onto the flight or will the FlyBe assume because I was a 'no-show' on the Thursday outbound that I never made it to the destination and thus cancel my inbound flight?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Sometimes you can get knocked off the system however if you speak to someone at the ticket desk (not check in) on your way out it shouldn't be an issue.
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Old 14th Feb 2012, 12:47
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I'd be a bit worried leaving it so late.

I was reading that if you don't turn up for the outbound flight airlines generally cancel the entire ticket (outbound / inbound flights), not sure if that's specific to FlyBe.

I'd rather not arrive at SOU on Monday morning to checkin and be told they've cancelled my inbound and it'll be 300 pounds for a flight back.
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Old 14th Feb 2012, 13:01
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Phone them. I got caught out with this last October. Had flights booked to BRU from MAN, needed to get their earlier so booked another flight. Return one no longer valid. But rang them up mid-Jan to do the same, very helpful.
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