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That's funny. I'm not aware of a single 195 flight this season which bulked out with it's own passengers' baggage. There were several 195 flights which had to take excess baggage due to Dash 8s repeatedly bulking out, and it wouldn't surprise me to learn that this wasn't possible in every case.
The 195 will quite comfortably swallow 150 pieces of baggage.
The 195 will quite comfortably swallow 150 pieces of baggage.
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A Full dash and Ski Flights do not mix. 
I Believe Flybe are looking at reducing the ammount of seats sold on the Dash, just so they dont lose money rushing all the missed bags.
Re the 195, once the loading was looked at, apart from going close to over weight, there was only 1 or 2 ski's that didn't make it on them.
All in the past now, the point of all this was that the LDE flights wont be a problem.
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I Believe Flybe are looking at reducing the ammount of seats sold on the Dash, just so they dont lose money rushing all the missed bags.Re the 195, once the loading was looked at, apart from going close to over weight, there was only 1 or 2 ski's that didn't make it on them.
All in the past now, the point of all this was that the LDE flights wont be a problem.
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Otto Just to clear this up
The substitution of E195 for Dash's will be BHX, SOU, BHD and EDI (although the EDI 195 was originally EXT based in summer 2007, and when moved to EDI was crewed by EXT crew)
I hear that the company is doing reasonably well in finding charter work for the lonely 195's
4 E95s are indeed planned to be removed from the schedule over the course of the summer. Affected bases have been announced as BHX, SOU, EXT and BHD.
I hear that the company is doing reasonably well in finding charter work for the lonely 195's
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Can anyone clarify what is happening with the remaining 10 Q400's which are still due by the end of 2009, to take the fleet to the figure of 60 mentioned in the FlyBe annual report.
There was a suggestion on here that 5 had been sold from the production line, and the delivery dates published elsewhere for G-ECOT/G-FLBA/G-FLBB have now passed, so maybe this is true.
However, presumably they need 2 additional a/c to open the LGW base in late June, there are still 2 E145's to replace and the E195 substitution programme seems to need 4. So assuming no big cuts elsewhere, that finds work for 8 from 10 Q400's, but does anyone know for sure what is planned.
BTW, what chance the displaced E195's will eventually come back into play when the long rumoured take over of the BA LGW domestic routes happens?
There was a suggestion on here that 5 had been sold from the production line, and the delivery dates published elsewhere for G-ECOT/G-FLBA/G-FLBB have now passed, so maybe this is true.
However, presumably they need 2 additional a/c to open the LGW base in late June, there are still 2 E145's to replace and the E195 substitution programme seems to need 4. So assuming no big cuts elsewhere, that finds work for 8 from 10 Q400's, but does anyone know for sure what is planned.
BTW, what chance the displaced E195's will eventually come back into play when the long rumoured take over of the BA LGW domestic routes happens?
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...er, every chance. Flybe is as agile as any airline. Opportunities are always looked for and with crew and hulls available, watch this space.
Oh, and as for Ski flights and loading. If you stand out with the loaders and impress on them the need for thinking about what they're doing, you can get 90 bags on a Q400. 5-6 sets of skis in the front hold, providing they're shorter modern ones, and the big problem si the agents at the Ski end not getting the numbers to crew early enough to prevent too much fuel going on to go overweight.
I've certainly never left bags behind for such reasons. Long may that continue.
Oh, and as for Ski flights and loading. If you stand out with the loaders and impress on them the need for thinking about what they're doing, you can get 90 bags on a Q400. 5-6 sets of skis in the front hold, providing they're shorter modern ones, and the big problem si the agents at the Ski end not getting the numbers to crew early enough to prevent too much fuel going on to go overweight.
I've certainly never left bags behind for such reasons. Long may that continue.
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With the parking up of aircraft etc, isnt it time flybe 'suggested' to BA that they could take over LGW - UK Domestic routes. The 190s are an ideal aircraft and are just big enough to replace the 737s. BA puts the codeshare on the flights, saves BA money replacing the 737s, lets BA concentrate on LGW-Europe and sell J Class proper, and keeps flybe flying whilst protecting BAs investment. Simples 
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BA puts the codeshare on the flights, saves BA money replacing the 737s, lets BA concentrate on LGW-Europe and sell J Class proper, and keeps flybe flying whilst protecting BAs investment. Simples
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I assume that the plan to float FlyBe which was put on hold while BACon was absorbed, is back on hold until the stock market improves. Until the float BA owns 15% of FlyBe. BA will drop unprofitable routes from time to time, and FlyBe will no doubt have the opportunity to take the route on.
Are the LGW domestic routes unprofitable? Who knows? But until Waterside decrees they are, then surely they will continue to be operated by BA.
Are the LGW domestic routes unprofitable? Who knows? But until Waterside decrees they are, then surely they will continue to be operated by BA.
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In the current climate I cannot see any airline taking over the entire BA domestic operations at LGW.
Skipness One Echo - I do not expect any change at LGW would affect their LHR services so if you enjoy the BA service this will still be available to you abeit from the UK's largest airport.
I am not sure about the redundancies, I would expect BE to offer BA staff the option of a transfer and retraining onto the Q400/E195 fleet as they did with BA connect. I cannot see how BE have enough staff as it is to fulfill the requirements for all the domestic ops ex-LGW so I expect BA will put this option forward. However this is not going to happen in the short term so BA staff have nothing to worry about
Skipness One Echo - I do not expect any change at LGW would affect their LHR services so if you enjoy the BA service this will still be available to you abeit from the UK's largest airport.
I am not sure about the redundancies, I would expect BE to offer BA staff the option of a transfer and retraining onto the Q400/E195 fleet as they did with BA connect. I cannot see how BE have enough staff as it is to fulfill the requirements for all the domestic ops ex-LGW so I expect BA will put this option forward. However this is not going to happen in the short term so BA staff have nothing to worry about
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In the current climate I cannot see any airline taking over the entire BA domestic operations at LGW.
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I hate the flybe product
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I wouldn't rule out BA buying Flybe in the future when the company is established
