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Old 6th Apr 2009, 09:16
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Flybe now showing Lgw - Dus on their bookings system. Aircraft departs Lgw at 7.30am. Is this the start of the Lgw base, is there more to come
Their press release says LGW is their 14th base, so I guess that means there is more to come.
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Old 6th Apr 2009, 09:30
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Isn't LGW-DUS one of the old Air Europe Express/Euroworld/CityFlyer Express routes?
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Old 6th Apr 2009, 10:10
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Yes, I think it is, I'm sure the Dash will be a bit more pleasant than the "sheds" that used to ply this route in the AE Express days!
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Old 6th Apr 2009, 15:35
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As I heared no Dash but EM9´s are going to do the job.
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Old 6th Apr 2009, 15:48
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Im 90% sure that it will be a Dash on the DUS BE already have good engineering support for the Dash. Maybe a e195 when the base is established heard rumours of EDI and MAN routes from LGW anybody hear that?
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Old 6th Apr 2009, 15:53
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Putting a dummy booking into the engine until you get to the point where the seating map appears shows LGW-DUS to be a Q400 route.

Besides which, they still have loads of new Q400's to come over the next few months, but no obviously spare E195's.
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Old 6th Apr 2009, 16:11
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Originally one E195 was planned to be based in GCI but due to the runway limitations an extra Q400 was based there instead, so what happened to this essentially "spare" E195? Could this 'spare' a/c be based in LGW?
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Old 6th Apr 2009, 16:33
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The GCI issue arose nearly a year ago when they were planning to retire the last 146's in October 2008. Presumably that E195 was reallocated many months ago.

As I said before, the booking engine is loaded with a Q400 seat map. Surely that confirms that Flybe intend to use that type on the route, and ends the discussion on this particular topic.
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Old 6th Apr 2009, 17:44
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It isn't going to be a 195, the base is opening with 1 Q400.
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Old 6th Apr 2009, 18:49
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Originally one E195 was planned to be based in GCI but due to the runway limitations an extra Q400 was based there instead, so what happened to this essentially "spare" E195? Could this 'spare' a/c be based in LGW?
I think you'll probably find that this one went to ABZ to operate the ABZLGW as this route wasn't planned when the GCI situation came up. I think it's likely that LGW might have E195's based in the future if the routes are successful but Flybe would be a bit crazy to launch with the E95 when the Q400 can do it just as well.
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Old 6th Apr 2009, 19:52
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Was looking at booking a Flight from INV - LGW within the next week or two and noticed that it shows a Dash Q400 on a weekday flight are they getting downgraded from the 195 at INV ?
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Old 6th Apr 2009, 19:58
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Looking at the website looks as if the afternoon sectors have been downgraded to the dash but only on certain days as far as can see the main later flights are still on the e195 looks like flybe are reacting to the current climate with the dash needing to sell less seats to break even...smart business if you ask me.
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Old 7th Apr 2009, 12:47
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195 utilisation

At times there is a spare 195 and it usually sits on the 20's at BHX.
Although during the last week or two it has not always been around but
for a few days last week ACARSD was showing no movements for "EA"
or "EJ".

Also the 195 utilisation at bhx has further decreased with a swift ending
of double daily flights to Milan MXP. It now operates daily with the
weekday flight departing BHX at 09.40 basically leaving no time to do
a flight beforehand without re-timing one of the early morning outbounds.

Some days the 195's operate just 4 sectors.

Also cut is the midday Q400 BHX - STR.

You need not to look any further than the CAA stats to see why
both of these routes have been reduced.

The other thing of course both destinations were 145 routes last
summer and there is still a net seat gain. Sensible move if you ask
me although the flight timings could be better but this might be due
to slot restrictions down route due to the late change.

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Old 7th Apr 2009, 15:27
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EA is on C check in Exeter the first one of Flybes e95s in for major checks. Maybe the spare in BHX is covering EA's flying?
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Old 7th Apr 2009, 16:03
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At the end of the press release about the new Gatwick - Dusseldorf route was this statement.

"we have big plans to grow further in Germany"

Anyone have any suggestions as to what new routes these plans involve?
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Old 7th Apr 2009, 19:36
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I'm not sure if they have changed their mind but there was a mention last year of Germany possibly being introduced from CWL.
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Old 8th Apr 2009, 07:20
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"we have big plans to grow further in Germany"
I seem to remember them saying something similar about Eastern Europe and Scandinavia a year or two ago and about their BHX base about four years ago, absolutely nothing happened.......not sure why BE produce these strange media alerts as the rest of their business seems to be very soundly and sensibly run
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Old 8th Apr 2009, 09:25
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Could there be a link up with Luftansa? is flybe going to take BMIR and then feed into DUS?
No. If internal rumours are correct then Flybe asked Lufty the question were given a huge price tag and they ran home to Exeter.

Different business model, different fleet and similar routes. They do not really need another Bacon integration if there is no cash incentive.

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Old 9th Apr 2009, 10:11
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G-JEBC

An Aviastar 146-300 which crashed in Indonesia yesterday was formerly G-JEBC:

No survivors as Aviastar 146-300 crashes in Indonesia

JetPhotos.Net Photo » G-JEBC (CN: E3189) Flybe British Aerospace BAe 146-300 by John Fitzpatrick
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Old 10th Apr 2009, 17:06
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Indonesia

Wonder if fumes in the cabin will emerge
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