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Believe that is correct, as far as i can work out for 2 reasons;
- the rotary contract has/is changing and they didnt want to change the fixed wing contract at the same time.
- With several a/c tied up for the next year in Athens, Flybe didnt need the Scatsta contract as much as before, infact may even have been short units for it!
- the rotary contract has/is changing and they didnt want to change the fixed wing contract at the same time.
- With several a/c tied up for the next year in Athens, Flybe didnt need the Scatsta contract as much as before, infact may even have been short units for it!
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The reasons given were posted earlier, and though I'm sure Flybe would have preferred to get the Scatsa contract, the fast remains that with the Athens one, and loads more airlines around the world looking to Flybe for help for similar startups, the company can get by without it.
Some others looking to the contract may have needed it far more desperately, Eastern included,
Some others looking to the contract may have needed it far more desperately, Eastern included,
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Flybe Training Academy
I see Flybe today announced they've got £4.3 million funding from the government (well, the learning and skills council at any rate) to help build their Training Academy in Exeter - £24 milllion project. Apparently the sims leaving FAB to go to EXT as part of the deal.
I hope no-one's told Lord 'trainspotter' Adonis that the government is investing in an industry as wicked as aviation! Heaven forfend that taxpayers should support one of the nation's few remaining industries of note..........
I hope no-one's told Lord 'trainspotter' Adonis that the government is investing in an industry as wicked as aviation! Heaven forfend that taxpayers should support one of the nation's few remaining industries of note..........
Drink - Commercial air transport as practised by FlyBE moves people and goods around, it doesn't involve the manufacture of widgets as a primary purpose. Therefore it's a service rather than industry.
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Possible Flybe BA/BMI
I have heard from someone on the ground in Jersey (claims to know somebody on the BA board) that a deal is "nearly" complete for BA to purchase BMI and that as part of the deal BA will pass Baby/Regional onto little brother Flybe while BA concentrate on LHR.
I stress this is just a rumour but am wondering if anybody else has heard this. I know this is "old" news however this is the first I have heard that a deal is pretty much there with Lufthansa.
Watch this space I guess! Be good to see if anybody has got any contacts.
I stress this is just a rumour but am wondering if anybody else has heard this. I know this is "old" news however this is the first I have heard that a deal is pretty much there with Lufthansa.
Watch this space I guess! Be good to see if anybody has got any contacts.
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Heard the same from inside. But no details. I fear the asset-stripping will not be gentle. And I have mates in Mainline and Baby, who independently fear the outcome. There are no other takers for either, nor Regional. No real surprises.
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Interesting Speculation
Not heard that Flybe would be interested in a solo bid. Have they got big cash reserves? Im sure BMI would need them even it it was broken up.
Flybe enters race for British Midland - Times Online
Flybe enters race for British Midland - Times Online
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Its makes sense for BA to get some LHR slots via the back door with their 15% in Flybe, with
perhaps Flybe selling on the slots BA want for a small premium.
Keith Williams (CFO) of BA is stating that the company finances are still on a knife edge for the next few years so i cannot see them splashing the cash just yet.
perhaps Flybe selling on the slots BA want for a small premium.
Keith Williams (CFO) of BA is stating that the company finances are still on a knife edge for the next few years so i cannot see them splashing the cash just yet.
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Not heard that Flybe would be interested in a solo bid. Have they got big cash reserves? Im sure BMI would need them even it it was broken up.
Flybe enters race for British Midland - Times Online
Flybe enters race for British Midland - Times Online
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The article goes onto suggest that the Flybe/BMI deal would not come under the scrutiny of the Monopolies & Mergers Commission unlike any offer from BA/Virgin etc.
I dare say that Easyjet, Ryanair and a few others would have something to say about that.
I dare say that Easyjet, Ryanair and a few others would have something to say about that.
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You could say ATW go one better quoting Jim French
ATW Daily News
Some interesting points here, none more so than the statement
saying that it is not just Regional that interests flybe.
Also goes on to mention the Olympic deal.
Pete
ATW Daily News
Some interesting points here, none more so than the statement
saying that it is not just Regional that interests flybe.
Also goes on to mention the Olympic deal.
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9 Dash8's being wetleased? Far as us drivers knew the deal was for 4 going to the Olympic operation, 2 of which were staying and 2 returning after the deal's conclusion
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Flybe's interest is no surprise, but i doubt they'll get it handed on a plate in the way they picked up BACON, although bmi Regional is loss making at present there would be large savings to be made by intergrating Regionals operation with Flybe's in both terms of management cost and aircraft, regional have the wrong aircraft for their route structure (ERJ v D400) Aberdeen based but with all the real levers controlled in the Midlands there must be millions in duplication to saved.
LH would probably have to fund both redundency cost and aircraft lease cost to make it less risky and throw in some LHR routes to boot. (EDI-LHR?)
LH would be left with med haul "stans" and baby and a lot of overheads, baby might go to Jet2 or SMB (if he doesn't get his telly job) or merge with German Wing. The rest would be up to the highest bid Virgin/ba/ Arab carriers
LH would probably have to fund both redundency cost and aircraft lease cost to make it less risky and throw in some LHR routes to boot. (EDI-LHR?)
LH would be left with med haul "stans" and baby and a lot of overheads, baby might go to Jet2 or SMB (if he doesn't get his telly job) or merge with German Wing. The rest would be up to the highest bid Virgin/ba/ Arab carriers
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Q400'S
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I think they might have more than four already but I must admit I am a bit confused on the current postion but here is my attempt from Jethro's
acarsd, G-INFO and airframes.org: -
G-JECV sold (removed from Jethro's last flight per acarsd 21/9)
G-JECW sold (removed from Jethro's last per acarsd 12/9)
G-FLBD seen in HER last week in service for Olympic
G-PTHA never came to BE, owned by MIG now SX-OBA (went via BHX)
G-PTHB never came to BE, owned by MIG now SX-OBB (went via BHX)
G-PTHC nover yet delivered still showing due at BHX on Jethro's
G-ECOE ex Wideroe went to Holland for painting now with Olympic?
G-ECOF not sure where this is but G-INFO states application to restore
to UK register from Norway expires 29/09/09!
G-FLBE for Olympic per Jethro's - assuming it is not G-PTHC then this
could be the 9th or G-ECOC which is due back from Wideroe as well.
I would like to know why "CV" & "CW" were chosen for sale rather than say "DI" & "DJ" or even "CE" & "CF".
Pete
I think they might have more than four already but I must admit I am a bit confused on the current postion but here is my attempt from Jethro's
acarsd, G-INFO and airframes.org: -
G-JECV sold (removed from Jethro's last flight per acarsd 21/9)
G-JECW sold (removed from Jethro's last per acarsd 12/9)
G-FLBD seen in HER last week in service for Olympic
G-PTHA never came to BE, owned by MIG now SX-OBA (went via BHX)
G-PTHB never came to BE, owned by MIG now SX-OBB (went via BHX)
G-PTHC nover yet delivered still showing due at BHX on Jethro's
G-ECOE ex Wideroe went to Holland for painting now with Olympic?
G-ECOF not sure where this is but G-INFO states application to restore
to UK register from Norway expires 29/09/09!
G-FLBE for Olympic per Jethro's - assuming it is not G-PTHC then this
could be the 9th or G-ECOC which is due back from Wideroe as well.
I would like to know why "CV" & "CW" were chosen for sale rather than say "DI" & "DJ" or even "CE" & "CF".
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Dont think they will ever sell GJEDI, because of the reg JEDI! 
Who have CW/CV gone to?
Might be something to do with the hold config's, some of the older dashes are better for the ski routes.
Who have CW/CV gone to?
Might be something to do with the hold config's, some of the older dashes are better for the ski routes.
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CV and CW have been sold to Olympic.
OF is currently being prepared for delivery to Athens on the wet lease.
OC is still with Wideroe but will eventually return to the UK operation.
FLBE is yet to be delivered but will be going straight out to Athens on the wet lease.
OF is currently being prepared for delivery to Athens on the wet lease.
OC is still with Wideroe but will eventually return to the UK operation.
FLBE is yet to be delivered but will be going straight out to Athens on the wet lease.