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Old 25th Sep 2014, 16:35
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My question is, where do they suddenly appear from
Had a similar situation two years ago.

Overheard a couple with a young child sat across the aisle ask a cabin crew member on boarding for a lap restraint for their young child stating that they had paid for a seat for the child but would rather the child sat on the fathers lap for take-off.

Three headcounts were taken which obviously did not match the manifest. The cabin crew were obviously under pressure to get it sorted and I overheard one cabin crew member saying to another 'We have 188+5 but should have 189+4'. I drew the attention of one of the cabin crew members to the couple with the child on the fathers lap and got a 'nothing to do with you' look in response.

A good 10 mins later the senior crew member approached the couple across the aisle and problem solved.
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 16:52
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It's internet check in. It's causing issues on lots of flights, although it's normally sorted in seconds by the Dispatcher. Basically, pax are checking in on the Internet and then again at the airport, anything from 2 to 4 pax too many, always no bags to come off.
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 17:11
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How does a system (presumably tested in UAT) allow you to check in
twice ? With such a safety critical piece of the jigsaw ? Sounds like a serious
bug !
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 18:06
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they only check in on line, its only at a/c we get final count usually goes down to know shows at airport & no checked bags so its not a serious security issue.
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 18:14
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Yes understood about no-shows and people not checking in at all but not a system that allows you to check a person in twice unless ground supervisor or equivalent 'forces' them in the flight after several checks.

The worry if it becomes common and complacency kicks in that one day a flight departs without somebody on board who should be and carrying the content of their luggage.

If as suggested by an earlier poster the system allows check in twice, I suggest a fix must be found esp as they seem to suggest its happened numerous times lately ?
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 22:32
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It continues to amaze me that on a nearly full aircraft they have to count all the pax, surely 189 seats with 7 empty equates to 182...much simpler/easy counting the unoccupied and subtracting from total seats. Suppose that is far too simple for the average CC.
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Old 25th Sep 2014, 22:35
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That is exactly what we do. So not so simple cabin crew Ericlday!
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But the Captain announced that 141 came through the gate, but only 140 were on board. He asked everyone to remain seated and no one got on. He later said the passenger had been found so I presume they were physically on board. Could it have been a problem with scanning the passes at the gate?
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 10:48
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Bit rude ericlday eh, all CC on my flights count by seeing how many empty seats their are, not all CC are simple as you call them, couple I met were studying to fly whilst doing a CC job!
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 11:21
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They also have to account for infants eg 185 + 5 the plus 5 may not occupy a seat.....
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Old 26th Sep 2014, 12:10
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boarding discreprency, can happen for various reasons, until the discreprency is resolved, you can't go, some are much easier than others. Also very dependent on how good the dispatcher is.
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Old 2nd Oct 2014, 15:45
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I was wondering why some Thomson flights still occasionally carry a BY flight code? For example the return LGW - CUN flight on 30/09/14 was BY28/9.
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Old 2nd Oct 2014, 16:18
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BY is still the Thomson Airways code for IATA purposes (ticketing etc.).
TOM is the Thomson Airways code for ICAO purposes (ATC, flight planning etc.).
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Old 2nd Oct 2014, 16:36
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So what would determine whether it caries the TOM or BY flight number?
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Old 2nd Oct 2014, 17:51
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Could it have been a problem with scanning the passes at the gate?
This has been the problem in the majority of the boarding discrepancies I have encountered at work. There are a multitude of other reasons it can happen too.Duplicate desk/internet check-ins do happen due to IT glitches occasionally but they are more rare in my experience. (Should add, I work for another airline, not Thomson.)
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Old 2nd Oct 2014, 17:54
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Sometimes its local airport computer software than determines IATA/ICAO coding
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Why is G-OOBE in Lima? Has she been sold or leased?
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Is it going on the Starquest tour maybe?
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Yes. OBE was used last year too. Went to Florida enroute to Lima
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I'm sure BD and BF were used last year BE went two years ago

I think BC will be the other one by the looks of it
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