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I sometimes think these councilors live on a different planet to the rest of us.This arguement about the LBA being in the wrong place has gone on for years.It's built on a hill,bad weather,lots of diversions.It makes one wonder how we manage to fly over 3 million passengers a year and and still increasing.Where will you build an alternative to Leeds.Years ago it was Elvington,then a brand new one would be built at Thorne near Doncaster. Lots of other places were mentioned but nothing ever happened except lots of talking and the idea gradually dead the death.The saviour for the region was was supposed to be DSA but less said the better on this thread.Leeds is still expanding,one reason why is that the catchment area around the airport is made up of quite a few affluent areas.Airlines like to follow the money knowing that they can fill their aircraft.Lets get back to this proposed talking shop and lets suppose the outcome is that the LBA is in the wrong place and a new airport needs to be built.Where's the money coming from?The regions councils are broke so they tell us will it be their money?Will the government pay? I don't think so look at the problems with trying to extend Heathrow or building a new London Airport.So who is left to build the alternative to the LBA?The private sector are the only ones left to build it but not if they cannot guarantee their money back for all the investment needed to build it.These councilors can talk and talk, assess as many studies as they want buts Leeds will remain the main regional airport.
That's cheered me up on a dull day!!
So access to LBA by public transport is putting off inward investment? Sounds like somebody wasn't too happy with the taxi bill for their most recent holiday so wants the airport moved nearer - might be easier to just improve access.
Perhaps a study tour to Spain is needed?
So access to LBA by public transport is putting off inward investment? Sounds like somebody wasn't too happy with the taxi bill for their most recent holiday so wants the airport moved nearer - might be easier to just improve access.
Perhaps a study tour to Spain is needed?
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The closure of RAF Church Fenton at the end of the year comes to mind as a replacement airfield yet again for Leeds/Bradford, Just like it did in the 1980's. Its close to the M1, M62 & A1 (M) motaways. Rail Network in place with train station nearby on the Leeds - York line and has 2 decent runways pointed in the right direction, what more could you want...
But who would pay for it to be moved, And what would Bridgepoint Capital have to say about it?
But who would pay for it to be moved, And what would Bridgepoint Capital have to say about it?
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Kirklees Council
If you have the misfortune to live in Kirklees, which must be one of the worst performing councils in the UK, then the pronouncements from this clown will not come as any suprise 
.....Oh yes he is busy brown nosing trying to get a parliamentary safe seat...All P
and wind 
.....Oh yes he is busy brown nosing trying to get a parliamentary safe seat...All P and wind
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Problem is it is not just Kirklees, it is the Leeds City Region Local Enterprise Partnership that have commissioned this study. It just happens that the article is from The Huddersfield Bugle.....
Part of the article says
Senior councillors and business leaders have backed research to assess if Leeds Bradford Airport, in its current location, boosts or hinders future economic aspirations.
The aviation study will assess the airport’s economic contribution and whether the economy could prosper quicker and far wider if the airport was located elsewhere.
It has been commissioned by the Local Enterprise Partnership (LEP), a body which forms part of the Leeds City Region group of public and private business leaders.
LEP Board members from their website
The LEP Board brings together business and local authority leaders. It is chaired by an independent private sector Chair.
Board members
• Roger Marsh - Chair
• John Parkin - Chief Executive, Leeds Bradford International Airport
• Mark Ridgway - Managing Director, Group Rhodes
• Stephanie Burras - Chief Executive, Ahead Partnership
• Paul Hamer - Chief Executive Officer, WYG
• Professor Bob Cryan - Vice-Chancellor, University of Huddersfield
• Stephen Harris - Area Director, Lloyds Banking Group
• Rashik Parmar - President, IBM Academy of Technology
• Simon Spencer - Managing Director, BorgWarner UK
• Cllr Tim Swift - Calderdale Council (Deputy Chair)
• Cllr Keith Wakefield - Leeds City Council
• Cllr David Green - Bradford Metropolitan District Council
• Cllr Mehboob Khan - Kirklees Council
• Cllr Peter Box - Wakefield Council
• Cllr James Alexander - City of York Council
• Cllr John Weighell - North Yorkshire County Council
• Cllr Anthony Alton - Harrogate Borough Council
Bet Mr Parkin has to use all his powers of control in meetings when things like this is discussed. Talk about the whole region pulling together ...
Part of the article says
Senior councillors and business leaders have backed research to assess if Leeds Bradford Airport, in its current location, boosts or hinders future economic aspirations.
The aviation study will assess the airport’s economic contribution and whether the economy could prosper quicker and far wider if the airport was located elsewhere.
It has been commissioned by the Local Enterprise Partnership (LEP), a body which forms part of the Leeds City Region group of public and private business leaders.
LEP Board members from their website
The LEP Board brings together business and local authority leaders. It is chaired by an independent private sector Chair.
Board members
• Roger Marsh - Chair
• John Parkin - Chief Executive, Leeds Bradford International Airport
• Mark Ridgway - Managing Director, Group Rhodes
• Stephanie Burras - Chief Executive, Ahead Partnership
• Paul Hamer - Chief Executive Officer, WYG
• Professor Bob Cryan - Vice-Chancellor, University of Huddersfield
• Stephen Harris - Area Director, Lloyds Banking Group
• Rashik Parmar - President, IBM Academy of Technology
• Simon Spencer - Managing Director, BorgWarner UK
• Cllr Tim Swift - Calderdale Council (Deputy Chair)
• Cllr Keith Wakefield - Leeds City Council
• Cllr David Green - Bradford Metropolitan District Council
• Cllr Mehboob Khan - Kirklees Council
• Cllr Peter Box - Wakefield Council
• Cllr James Alexander - City of York Council
• Cllr John Weighell - North Yorkshire County Council
• Cllr Anthony Alton - Harrogate Borough Council
Bet Mr Parkin has to use all his powers of control in meetings when things like this is discussed. Talk about the whole region pulling together ...
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This is as bad as bulldozing Heathrow and putting a replacement to th East.
While in the middle of it.
Best plan for leeds could be a tram train or go back to the idea of city wide trams.
And yes there is Dsa.
And with the upcoming inland port on its doorstep.
The M18 widening And new link road should help.
But moving leeds. Where could you put it ?.
Is there any land in the area to take it ?
While in the middle of it.
Best plan for leeds could be a tram train or go back to the idea of city wide trams.
And yes there is Dsa.
And with the upcoming inland port on its doorstep.
The M18 widening And new link road should help.
But moving leeds. Where could you put it ?.
Is there any land in the area to take it ?
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I guess the area they would most likely think of is that to the south of Leeds and north of Wakefield, as it has the M1, M62 and rail links. 30-40 years ago might have stood a chance with some ambition on the part of local politicians, which there wasn't....how much money is it that the Chinese are about to invest in Manchester Airport?
However, this study now belongs in the realms of fantasy for oh so many reasons, together with the Sheffield City petition. Anybody know what came from that, by the way?
Just as a note for any councillor in Kirklees having a bright idea about Church Fenton, distances by rail:
Huddersfield to Manchester Airport - 35miles
Huddersfield to Church Fenton - 32miles.
I think by road, Manchester is actually nearer.
However, this study now belongs in the realms of fantasy for oh so many reasons, together with the Sheffield City petition. Anybody know what came from that, by the way?
Just as a note for any councillor in Kirklees having a bright idea about Church Fenton, distances by rail:
Huddersfield to Manchester Airport - 35miles
Huddersfield to Church Fenton - 32miles.
I think by road, Manchester is actually nearer.
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I know, how about the council using some of the money they made when they sold the airport to improve access. Better road and a rail link were supposed to be put in. Oh wait no we can spend less on a study thats been done before and come to the same conclusion. LBA is not in the best place but it's doing well and an alternative is just too costly.
Yawn!
Yawn!
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Its sometimes easier to allow a study to be commissioned knowing that nothing is likely to happen anyway!!
Maybe it has been done to put this issue to bed once and for all as far as the LEP is concerned. Then they can all support the development of LBA by pressing for further access improvements.
On the face of it, you wonder whether the LEP could spend the money on something more productive to support the region ...
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CAA have today released the September 2013 provisional passengers stats.
LBA handled 393.746 passengers in September which is up 16.9% on the same month last year. Meanwhile the 12 month Year rolling figure now stands at an impressive 3,228,579 passengers, which is up 8.7% on this time last year.
Out of interest British Airways carried 11,893 passengers on the Heathrow route in September, which I think is the highest figure so far for them....
LBA handled 393.746 passengers in September which is up 16.9% on the same month last year. Meanwhile the 12 month Year rolling figure now stands at an impressive 3,228,579 passengers, which is up 8.7% on this time last year.
Out of interest British Airways carried 11,893 passengers on the Heathrow route in September, which I think is the highest figure so far for them....
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Out of interest British Airways carried 11,893 passengers on the Heathrow route in September, which I think is the highest figure so far them....
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Someone had better check my arithmetic but I make it 69 per flight which equates to a seat factor of 52% (assuming a 132 seat A319). Not good enough yet, but getting more respectable. A better schedule involving a nightstopper is needed.
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Good news as it looks like KLM are to upgrade 3 of the 4 daily Amsterdam - rotations from Fokker 70 to Embrear 190 from Monday, May 26th 2014.
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Tony Hallwood (Aviation Development & Marketing Director) was quoted as saying the following after LBA won the award for "Best Airport under 6 million Passengers" at the recent Airport Operators Association (AOA) awards ceremony.
So that makes you wonder which airlines might be possibly going to LBA next and what new routes they may have lined up for next year 2014?
“We remain dedicated to further improve and expand services available from Leeds Bradford following the introduction of British Airways and Monarch Airlines alongside the growth of Jet2.com. We look forward to introducing new airline partners and routes in 2014".
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The CAA October 2013 provisional passenger stats are now out and its good news yet again.
LBA handled 32,2089 pax in Oct 13 which is up +18% on the same month last year. The Year Rolling figure stands at 3,277,707 which is up +10.2% on the same time last year.
British Airways carried 11,381 pax on the Heathrow route. The Belfast City route figures continues to rise with 13,072 pax been carried by flybe, which was up 37%. Meanwhile KLM & Jet2 carried 20,219 pax on the Amsterdam route.
I just wonder if this growth will continue on into the winter?
LBA handled 32,2089 pax in Oct 13 which is up +18% on the same month last year. The Year Rolling figure stands at 3,277,707 which is up +10.2% on the same time last year.
British Airways carried 11,381 pax on the Heathrow route. The Belfast City route figures continues to rise with 13,072 pax been carried by flybe, which was up 37%. Meanwhile KLM & Jet2 carried 20,219 pax on the Amsterdam route.
I just wonder if this growth will continue on into the winter?