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"TSR2" It seems that the new Copenhagen route has identical evening flight schedule as both the current Newcastle and Humberside to Copenhagen routes do now.
Leisure travellers going for a long weekend?
Similarly, an early Monday flight with a late Friday return flight may be attractive to business travellers.

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Onyxcrowle. The runway at LBA is 7380 feet the 1800 you believed it to be was probably in meters before the extension. It was 5400 feet. I always thought they sbould have extended it to 2500 meters rather than the 2250 meters or 7380 feet is is currently.
DSA is 10000 feet if I remember correctly it had a small extension when peel bought the place from the MOD, and yes that would be enough for 777 flights as it's the same length as MAN. As I mentioned though if you look at Boeings take off requirements for the 773 at sea level even that is not enough for a Max AUW take off!
AC rarely take off at Max AUW and a 772 could do ISB from LBA in most conditions but would be unable to take cargo or full tanks not that they would need to. The problems at LBA is its higher 682 ft AMSL which means air pressure is lower and therefore more runway needed for take off. Hotter weather has the same effect. Also as a condition of the granting of planning permission for the extension the runway threshold was displaced resulting in less landing distance available. Whilst the runway is 7380 ft tbe landing distance is just over 6000 ft on 32 and less than 6000 ft on 14. This is another problem as 14 has a steeper glideslope due to high ground on approach. Put simply LBA is very tight for the bigger long range stuff.
As for Shaheen as far as I am aware tbey never operated from DSA only LBA. Air Blue would be ok but couldn't do it direct. Remember PIA are serving the large Pakistani community in Bradford so goi g from DSA is almost as bad as going to MAN for them.
LBA is twice weekly with PIA but only as they dont want to hurt their MAN operation.Shaheen were at 3 weekly and talking about more/adding Lahore before they were unable to extend the lease on their A310. PIA tried to pull out a while back as they are having problems and opeating from MAN and LBA doesn't really make sense but Shaheen operating from LBA badly hit their MAN loads so they decided to take over the route themselves rather than risk someone else stealing the pax. Hope this answers your questions.
DSA is 10000 feet if I remember correctly it had a small extension when peel bought the place from the MOD, and yes that would be enough for 777 flights as it's the same length as MAN. As I mentioned though if you look at Boeings take off requirements for the 773 at sea level even that is not enough for a Max AUW take off!
AC rarely take off at Max AUW and a 772 could do ISB from LBA in most conditions but would be unable to take cargo or full tanks not that they would need to. The problems at LBA is its higher 682 ft AMSL which means air pressure is lower and therefore more runway needed for take off. Hotter weather has the same effect. Also as a condition of the granting of planning permission for the extension the runway threshold was displaced resulting in less landing distance available. Whilst the runway is 7380 ft tbe landing distance is just over 6000 ft on 32 and less than 6000 ft on 14. This is another problem as 14 has a steeper glideslope due to high ground on approach. Put simply LBA is very tight for the bigger long range stuff.
As for Shaheen as far as I am aware tbey never operated from DSA only LBA. Air Blue would be ok but couldn't do it direct. Remember PIA are serving the large Pakistani community in Bradford so goi g from DSA is almost as bad as going to MAN for them.
LBA is twice weekly with PIA but only as they dont want to hurt their MAN operation.Shaheen were at 3 weekly and talking about more/adding Lahore before they were unable to extend the lease on their A310. PIA tried to pull out a while back as they are having problems and opeating from MAN and LBA doesn't really make sense but Shaheen operating from LBA badly hit their MAN loads so they decided to take over the route themselves rather than risk someone else stealing the pax. Hope this answers your questions.
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I wonder if Shaheen would be tempted to return to LBA with there newly acquired Airbus A330's if and when PIA pull out due to the retirement on the A310's and not willing to bring in the 772's?

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Have noted that Monarch Airlines have cut a fair number of rotations on the ski routes to Grenoble and Munich.
The Sunday service to Grenoble appears to end after this next weekend, apart from operating a few peak week operations with the Saturday service appearing to remain intact.
Munich appears to have been more severe, it seems to have already ended for the season apart from a couple of Friday rotations in February which have survived for now. (there have also been cuts on the Munich route from Luton based on what was originally on offer)
Despite what appears to have been an overall success story at Leeds Bradford for Monarch Airlines, they do seem to be having some difficulties making the ski routes work.
The Sunday service to Grenoble appears to end after this next weekend, apart from operating a few peak week operations with the Saturday service appearing to remain intact.
Munich appears to have been more severe, it seems to have already ended for the season apart from a couple of Friday rotations in February which have survived for now. (there have also been cuts on the Munich route from Luton based on what was originally on offer)
Despite what appears to have been an overall success story at Leeds Bradford for Monarch Airlines, they do seem to be having some difficulties making the ski routes work.

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Anyone know what's happening with ryanair summer 2014 schedule from Leeds/Bradford?
As things stand it looks as though 3x based aircraft will be required but there are plenty of gaps to be filled. Flights to Vilnuis, Riga and Reus were on sale up until early December but then disappeared while Barcelona and Dinard flights appear to have been removed today...
As things stand it looks as though 3x based aircraft will be required but there are plenty of gaps to be filled. Flights to Vilnuis, Riga and Reus were on sale up until early December but then disappeared while Barcelona and Dinard flights appear to have been removed today...

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Looks like Dinard still operates twice weekly in July and August. However, Tuesday and Thursdays sees only one Dublin flight during July and August so looks to be some shuffling around of the cards (as there is at most Ryanair UK bases this coming summer).

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Jet2 also cancelled quite a few LBA-GNB before Christmas. Having booked 2 return trips in Spring last year I have had 3 schedule changes and 2 cancellations - to say the least its a bit frustrating. Hopefully, they can have a quiet chat and sort out next years schedule between them
. Hopefully now the rest of the transport infrastructure is building up (scheduled buses etc) at GNB we can keep at least 2 weekly flights as it so much easier than GVA.


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Ryanair have just put on sale a 3x weekly Leeds/Bradford to Gerona service for summer 2014. Flights to operate on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturdays.
I suppose this is a replacement for the recently axed Barcelona route?
I suppose this is a replacement for the recently axed Barcelona route?

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Larnaca Flights Axed
Looks like Monarch have axed their Feb/Mar flights to Larnaca, just had an email to say flight has been changed to Manchester
guess they just weren't getting enough bookings for this time of year...a shame.


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More good news for Leeds/Bradford Airport,they have been awarded Best UK Airport at the annual Globe Travel Awards ceremony.The number of passengers has passed the 3.3 million mark and continues to increase every month.They have also announced 7 new routes for 2014.It's not bad for an airport considered by some to have the worst road infrastructure in the country,suffers lots of diversions due to fog and crosswinds.Bridgepoint and the airport mgmt should be congratulated for all their efforts in achieving this award.

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A little bit thin saying there are 7 new routes as some are replacing routes lost and others are old routes back in the frame. However the marketing team have done very well for us over the last few years so not knocking them just pointing out a a little of spin been added I believe.

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America and Dubai
We will have to wait until an airline has an aircraft that can operate long haul from our inadequate runways as there are now no plans to improve the dimensions of it in the new revised plans.

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A300BOY.
New revised plans!!! Has the master plan been updated to remove parallel taxiway and small extensions at both ends then?? In all seriousness I'm not surprised given modern generation Longhaul aircraft runway performance, the 787 is quite sprightly and I suspect the A350 will be also.
Why spend all that money like BHX if all you need is airlines to purchase new aircraft?
New revised plans!!! Has the master plan been updated to remove parallel taxiway and small extensions at both ends then?? In all seriousness I'm not surprised given modern generation Longhaul aircraft runway performance, the 787 is quite sprightly and I suspect the A350 will be also.
Why spend all that money like BHX if all you need is airlines to purchase new aircraft?


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The story is that no major work will be undertaken until the airport is making a profit. Cant blame them but I thought they had taken on the mantle of investing and developing the airport.
