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Old 21st Feb 2012, 10:21
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Scratchy

I don't think you could rule Jet2 out of the frame but friends at baby tell me the company line is that Jet2 are not involved so it's probably true
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 10:48
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It is one of the many rumours doing the rounds at the moment.
most I've spoken to seem to think it makes some sense, but we will just have to wait and see.
Personally i hope not but eh oh.
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 12:37
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The current runners and riders for Baby are:

Intro Aviation 25-1
Tesco 100-1
Orange (telecom) 1000-1
Jet2 4-1
Stobart Group 5-1
Management buy out 1000000000000000-1
IAG to retain 3-1


Anyone know of any others?
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 13:32
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On non-jokey terms. Co-op.
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 14:28
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runners and riders

None of them are the party that signed the term sheet.
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 14:46
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ASL group!
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 15:27
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Didn't someone mention Air Contractors?
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 17:02
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The only peeps who know anything are DLH: let's just wait and see.
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 17:13
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None of them are the party that signed the term sheet
how would you know?
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 17:17
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Does it matter chief?

Fact is £5K per jet per day is a lot of turn round for Stobart / Tesco / RBS / HSBC / Waitrose / Morrisons / Sainsbury / Body Shop / Hilary Wossname.
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 20:26
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So, runway30, it must be the bunch of next-Gen Arfur Daleys from south Wales who signed the term sheet then? No wonder Lufthansa were unsure if the deal would complete - they must have met them! Probably had to lend them a pen to sign the term sheet and didn't get it back afterwards either.
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Old 21st Feb 2012, 20:34
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Little birdie tells me that a certain LTN based airline could be interested due to the dowry that comes with the rugmonkey....
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Old 22nd Feb 2012, 08:13
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2 mill a month where did that figure come from????
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Old 22nd Feb 2012, 18:06
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14 jets * £5K per day = £70K per day.

You do the next bit
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Old 22nd Feb 2012, 18:28
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its more than double the amount that WPS let slip... much to everyones amazement, at a meeting last year.
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Old 22nd Feb 2012, 18:30
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ps ,
not quite correct on your maths as we aint been operating 14 all winter so you do the maths eh!!
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Old 22nd Feb 2012, 20:19
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And the utilisation is one of the primary reasons that the losses are so severe: doesn't matter what sort of spin you put on it, £25M a year in losses is a lot to turn round.
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Old 23rd Feb 2012, 13:56
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Grrr

I would guess the cost of oil has had a knock on effect. Airlines are spending hundreds of $millions or even £billions, a slight rise will induce potential losses. Consistent issues relating to long routes in Spain cannot help?

£25 million is not a massive amount to turn around, newer generation more frugal jets might help?
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Old 23rd Feb 2012, 16:52
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£25 million is not a massive amount to turn around
£25,000,000 / year
≈ £481,000 / week
≈ £68,000 / day
≈ £4,900 / aircraft (provided all 14 flying)
≈ £1,200 / sector (based on 4 sector day)
≈ £8 / seat (provided every seat is full

No not a massive amount at all!
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Old 23rd Feb 2012, 16:57
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"Announcement tomorrow ...... " about 4:59pm maybe?
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