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Let's not start getting side-tracked again. This is about GSS at Stansted moving to Manston. It's been shown as a link on this thread before, but please, everyone, read this before you make any further comment.
http://www.competition-commission.or...mmary_bawc.pdf
http://www.competition-commission.or...mmary_bawc.pdf
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If everything is signed and done deal, why has it not been announced?, why would MSE want to protect STN and the turmoil that this will cause if/when BAWC head to MSE, i would have thought you guys would be shouting loud that you have taken the work that you have bidded for.
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Sorry to hear about CAS lads losing their jobs, I thought things were looking distinctly quiet there a few weeks back when I drove past. Does anybody know if it's this week that Manston finds out if it's got the BAWC contract, maybe some of those laid off can get some work with BAWC if the deal is done?
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yes some one must know what is going on ,all the manston supporters cant wait to find out ,sorry for those who loose out, but that's life ,manston looks ready .i just hope those looking for work ,get what they want.any body out there knows come and let on.
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As I understand it KIA have tendered for some cargo traffic.
No one knows as yet if the deal is done or lost.
In due course it will come to light, At the end of the day it's only 11 flights a week.
In the longer term there is so much more that could come KIA way.
What a lot of fuss for perhaps three late evening flights per week.
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Would I be right in saying that planes landing at Manston fly over less housing than any other Airport in the south east.
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No one knows as yet if the deal is done or lost.
In due course it will come to light, At the end of the day it's only 11 flights a week.
In the longer term there is so much more that could come KIA way.
What a lot of fuss for perhaps three late evening flights per week.
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Would I be right in saying that planes landing at Manston fly over less housing than any other Airport in the south east.
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deal or no deal
"If everything is signed and done deal, why has it not been announced?"
Posted a week ago and still no reply. There are two possible explanations....
Posted a week ago and still no reply. There are two possible explanations....
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"Would I be right in saying that planes landing at Manston fly over less housing than any other Airport in the south east."
I'm afraid not. Manston is, in fact, the most environmentally compromised airport in the South East. The problem isn't just the number of houses, which is far more than Gatwick or Stansted; it's the proximity to the runway. The whole town of Ramsgate lies beneath the final three miles of the approach and high-density housing extends to within 800m of the threshold.
I'm afraid not. Manston is, in fact, the most environmentally compromised airport in the South East. The problem isn't just the number of houses, which is far more than Gatwick or Stansted; it's the proximity to the runway. The whole town of Ramsgate lies beneath the final three miles of the approach and high-density housing extends to within 800m of the threshold.
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The problem isn't just the number of houses, which is far more than Gatwick or Stansted; it's the proximity to the runway. The whole town of Ramsgate lies beneath the final three miles of the approach and high-density housing extends to within 800m of the threshold.
. . . .and there's always two ends to every runway
. . . .and there's always two ends to every runway
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Manston ( SEA ON TWO SIDES )
canot be right, To land at Gatwick you fly over many citys and towns, I remember flying right over Ramsgate and Herne bay to land at London City, which is in a very built up area, and a busy airport. Heathrow most come in over London.
To land at manston the aircraft pass over far far less property.
I would admit that what few planes do land at MSE, are lower, but this is a plus point as they pass over very quickly, you get more nose from planes far higher up, try living in west London.
To land at manston the aircraft pass over far far less property.
I would admit that what few planes do land at MSE, are lower, but this is a plus point as they pass over very quickly, you get more nose from planes far higher up, try living in west London.
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25,000 residents, 13,000 houses, all get flown over at less than 1,000 feet. As said by another poster, the closest housing to the business end of any runway in the south east.
The fact a plane flys so low means its loud.The fact its over 'quickly' don't make it any quieter.
The fact a plane flys so low means its loud.The fact its over 'quickly' don't make it any quieter.
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And the moral of the story is...
Since the Manston airfield has been in existence since 1915, I suspect that this thread is not the place to look for sympathy over aircraft noise. If you buy/rent a house under the flight path of an airfield what do you expect?
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Environmentally compromised ???
To suggest that Manston Manston is "the most environmentally compromised airport in the South East" is just ludicrous. First of all, have a look at the OS map - Landranger 179. You will see that the eastern end of the runway is 2.5 miles from the coast - and the last half-a-mile before touchdown has no housing directly underneath at all. In fact there is very little housing north, south and west of the runway at all. There certainly aren't 25,000 residents all getting flown over - you have to take in a very wide area to include that many. Aircraft approaching from the coast are about a mile south of my house when they are one mile before touchdown. We are hardly aware of them. Sometime we see them pass by before we hear them. The noise has never been loud enough or often enough to be a disturbance. Manston was at its busiest in recent years when EU Jet had regular flights, and we were less disturbed than by nearby roads and the nearby railway line. I am often in Ramsgate when flights are taking off or landing overhead, and often those below are startled to suddenly see an aircraft appear above them when they hadn't heard anything! I noticed when flying with EU Jet that when approaching for a west-east landing, the aircraft invariably crossed the coast from the north over the uninhabited stretch between Birchington and Herne Bay, and then turned eastward to land over the virtually uninhabited countryside below. Certainly those living directly below the approach from the east will be more aware of the landings than those a bit further away like me, but that applies to any airport. But even with EU Jet, the number of flights was absolutely miniscule compared with the London airports, and that's unlikely to change much, even if Manston gets a regular scheduled passenger service again.
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Hi Throat. I found this aerial shot of Myrtle Avenue. There don't seem to be any houses under the flight path, unlike the Nethercourt estate.
http://www.spotterspots.com/map_LHR_1.jpg
http://www.spotterspots.com/map_LHR_1.jpg
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How close the closest housing is is irrelevant to this thread which is about Manston and it's development. If the council give planning permission to build closer to the airport, then they are wallies. If people buy the properties, they are wallies too.
Apart from such irrelevancies, Air Cargo News has a nice article about the possible BAWC move. Apparently quote "Canterbury City Council leader, John Gilbey, said at a local government meeting that he had information that BAWC would move its operations from Stansted Airport to Manston."
Not unexpectedly, statements made by various folk that nothing is signed yet.
Apart from such irrelevancies, Air Cargo News has a nice article about the possible BAWC move. Apparently quote "Canterbury City Council leader, John Gilbey, said at a local government meeting that he had information that BAWC would move its operations from Stansted Airport to Manston."
Not unexpectedly, statements made by various folk that nothing is signed yet.