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All logical stuff from FlyBe. With Q400s arriving faster than they can be crewed expect more new routes and possibly a CWL base if not next year then in 09. BE and baby can co exist at CWL if they want to. I'm sure people will disagree but CWL domestics are Turboprop routes if you want multiple daily rotations. There just isn't the business for multiple daily 737s to GLA, BFS, ABZ, EDI, etc.. Fly Be will give CWL a descent domestic network. Baby will probably not fight. The routes make no money anyway. Baby's bread and butter is the med and will be eastern europe.
I totally disagree with the proposition CWL must have a JFK link before Emirates will be interested. People will travel to CWL from the west country for a link through DXB to asia, the far east and Australia. America has become a total irrelevance. HOWEVER, until CWL's multitude of transport and infrastructure problems are addressed Emirates won't have a barge pole long enough. They are coming to this part of the world and as ever it will be CWL or BRS and at the moment like it or not all the bean counters love BRS. CWL doesn't just need to be as good it needs to be a whole load better to just complete.
I totally disagree with the proposition CWL must have a JFK link before Emirates will be interested. People will travel to CWL from the west country for a link through DXB to asia, the far east and Australia. America has become a total irrelevance. HOWEVER, until CWL's multitude of transport and infrastructure problems are addressed Emirates won't have a barge pole long enough. They are coming to this part of the world and as ever it will be CWL or BRS and at the moment like it or not all the bean counters love BRS. CWL doesn't just need to be as good it needs to be a whole load better to just complete.
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See- http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news/...1466-20180775/
Looks like quite a bit more in the future from flybe, but no talk of a big fight back from bmibaby, (Read the whole link for full story!).
Passengers will stick with us, says bmibaby
Flybe also has plans to expand in 2009 to provide services to Brussels and French provincial cities.
“We’re the big boys with 13 destinations and 2.5 million passengers have taken advantage of our low-cost services since we came into Cardiff in 2002. We will have a little bit of a battle but we don’t see them as competition. They haven’t been at Birmingham where we have a good track record.
Is it me or did baby sound pathetic with their quotes? We're the big boys round here! About time you expand then! Why mention BHX? Pointless, what does BHX have to do with CWL? This was about CWL and it sounded to me like they are worried that a airline might take away all their business passengers by offering a twice a day Scottish flights. 
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Flybe will do well out of CWL but be warned it will probably be at a cost of variation of airlines! I think BMIBaby would be gone within 18 months (or cut right back to just the most profitable routes for the B737) and once BE are in they will defend thier turf from any outsiders coming in. Everyone knows what it's like at EXT, although that isn't particularly a bad thing as its a sound , regular route network that pays the bills. It will also be an 'up yours' to us in BRS by BE from across the estuary. On a personal note I was happy when BE pulled out of BRS having worked alongside them in EXT for a few years.....fed up with baby blue DH4's!!!!
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Isles of Scilly Skybus
I've read on wikipedia that Isles of Scilly skybus are to start a Newquay to Cardiff route next year. I know that usually you take wikipedia with a pinch of salt but is this true? And if it is, what would the frequency be like?
Flybe
I really think that the expansion from Flybe at Cardiff is outstanding, This is our chance to really have a brilliant domestic network. A 60% expansion in flights to offer 10 flights daily on weekdays is awesome, and i can only hope that they continue on their expansion in S09 if not W07. I really do hope that they will base and aircraft at Cardiff in order to operate the CDG as it will not cause any delays do the return GLA flight (due to transits). I hope we pic up a German route, and some more french routes in the near future from them.
BmiBaby
Bmibaby will more than likely be knocked off the domestic routes, except for possibly EDI. To be perfectly honest the BFS loads are not the best and reducing to once daily, it will not suite the business passengers one bit. The business passengers from GLA would more than likely move over to Flybe from BmiBaby. However there are no threat to BmiBaby at the moment for their International routes by Flybe and therefore we may see more frequency or new routes, if the domestics are dropped.
AerArann
Anybody have any knews on possible increased frequency or expansion by AerArann at Cardiff?
I've read on wikipedia that Isles of Scilly skybus are to start a Newquay to Cardiff route next year. I know that usually you take wikipedia with a pinch of salt but is this true? And if it is, what would the frequency be like?
Flybe
I really think that the expansion from Flybe at Cardiff is outstanding, This is our chance to really have a brilliant domestic network. A 60% expansion in flights to offer 10 flights daily on weekdays is awesome, and i can only hope that they continue on their expansion in S09 if not W07. I really do hope that they will base and aircraft at Cardiff in order to operate the CDG as it will not cause any delays do the return GLA flight (due to transits). I hope we pic up a German route, and some more french routes in the near future from them.
BmiBaby
Bmibaby will more than likely be knocked off the domestic routes, except for possibly EDI. To be perfectly honest the BFS loads are not the best and reducing to once daily, it will not suite the business passengers one bit. The business passengers from GLA would more than likely move over to Flybe from BmiBaby. However there are no threat to BmiBaby at the moment for their International routes by Flybe and therefore we may see more frequency or new routes, if the domestics are dropped.
AerArann
Anybody have any knews on possible increased frequency or expansion by AerArann at Cardiff?
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Isles of Scilly Skybus is true - Servisair have the contract with a daily NQY-CWL-NQY flight with a Twin Otter
Lets hope Flybe do start some French routes soon like they did from BRS to BOD,EGC & TLS.
Not sure on Aer Arann, I imagine they would carry on with ORK,DUB, GWY and NTE as per Summer 2007 season.
Lets hope Flybe do start some French routes soon like they did from BRS to BOD,EGC & TLS.
Not sure on Aer Arann, I imagine they would carry on with ORK,DUB, GWY and NTE as per Summer 2007 season.
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There was a rumour going around of a 2nd daily ORK flight from CWL, but that was months ago now.
There was a passenger on the CWL-CDG from the media today that was racing hiscolleague which was on the Eurostar to Paris. Not sure who instigated this, but it was to prove that it's quicker to travel by air than train. When the BE1431 landed in Paris CDG the Eurostar was still in London.
Any other possible news for CWL? Do we have a successor to JH yet?.
If the CWL - NQY is succesfull, could we see BE jump on it, in future expantions in their operation from CWL?
There was a passenger on the CWL-CDG from the media today that was racing hiscolleague which was on the Eurostar to Paris. Not sure who instigated this, but it was to prove that it's quicker to travel by air than train. When the BE1431 landed in Paris CDG the Eurostar was still in London.
Any other possible news for CWL? Do we have a successor to JH yet?.
If the CWL - NQY is succesfull, could we see BE jump on it, in future expantions in their operation from CWL?
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race train vs plane Cardiff - Paris
Mathers
To answer your question
about the race, The airport invited the media to look at doing this as an article in the Western Mail a couple of weekends ago basically told potential customers the average journey time from Cardiff to Paris was quicker by train.
Lets see what is printed in the papers next about it.
To answer your question
about the race, The airport invited the media to look at doing this as an article in the Western Mail a couple of weekends ago basically told potential customers the average journey time from Cardiff to Paris was quicker by train.
Lets see what is printed in the papers next about it.
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Application with the CAA
Today an applications was posted with the CAA for Flybe to operate a schedule service to Jersey in the Channel Islands.
Is this takeing over where Thompson pulled off of?
Will this mean they might stop the Jersey service from Bristol and concentrate on buliding up Cardiff as hubb?
Good news for Cardiff after cutting services by Thompson
Is this takeing over where Thompson pulled off of?
Will this mean they might stop the Jersey service from Bristol and concentrate on buliding up Cardiff as hubb?
Good news for Cardiff after cutting services by Thompson
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Application with the CAA Today an applications was posted with the CAA for Flybe to operate a schedule service to Jersey in the Channel Islands.
Is this takeing over where Thompson pulled off of?
Will this mean they might stop the Jersey service from Bristol and concentrate on buliding up Cardiff as hubb?
Good news for Cardiff after cutting services by Thompson
WW at the moment are only selling x 2 weekly flights to JER for S08. With TOM dropping the route, it is a sagnificant decreasse in the service next year from the 8 weekly flights. Hopefully BE will get approval and further strengthen their route structure from CWL. Flybe are allready advertising the new flights for March on the radio (Red Dragon).
Looking at S08 and there is no signs of further expansion with WW except for the WAW and GDN being continued. I have to say though the first couple of flights are showing dissapointing.
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Application to operate
mathers wales uk
This is where you can find the application that has been post to request a service by Flybe to operate Cardiff Jersey.
You will find the request on page 4 of the application at this address,
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/213/1828.pdf
This is where you can find the application that has been post to request a service by Flybe to operate Cardiff Jersey.
You will find the request on page 4 of the application at this address,
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/213/1828.pdf
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Lets hope Flybe do a great job out of CWL - we need it along with all the new routes that this may bring - hopefully France & Germany.
Thomsonfly are still operating CWL-JER from March until April then it ends, bit of a shame as the loads were good on this route.
I see EasyJet have announced new routes again ex BRS, lucky peeps, any one esle heard about Zoom doing a x2 flights a week to YYZ ? Due to be announced soon I have heard. This will be good for CWL !
Thomsonfly are still operating CWL-JER from March until April then it ends, bit of a shame as the loads were good on this route.
I see EasyJet have announced new routes again ex BRS, lucky peeps, any one esle heard about Zoom doing a x2 flights a week to YYZ ? Due to be announced soon I have heard. This will be good for CWL !
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confirmation of NQY-CWL
from www.newquaycornwallairport.com
Skybus, Cornwall's longest serving airline, has today announced the launch of two new routes from Newquay Cornwall Airport. Skybus will be flying to Cardiff from March 10, 2008 and to St Brieuc in Brittany from March 17, 2008.
Tickets for the new services are now available from the brand new Skybus website, developed specifically for the new routes and launched on December 10, 2007. The website: www.skybus.co.uk is being developed to include French and Welsh translations which will make it even easier for all passengers to book online.
The new services will run regularly, with flights to Cardiff departing Newquay five times a week, Monday through to Friday. Flights to St Brieuc will run four times a week on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday. Tickets are available at an introductory promotional price of £35 one way for Cardiff and £55 one way for St Brieuc if booked before January 31, 2008.
Tickets for the new services are now available from the brand new Skybus website, developed specifically for the new routes and launched on December 10, 2007. The website: www.skybus.co.uk is being developed to include French and Welsh translations which will make it even easier for all passengers to book online.
The new services will run regularly, with flights to Cardiff departing Newquay five times a week, Monday through to Friday. Flights to St Brieuc will run four times a week on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday. Tickets are available at an introductory promotional price of £35 one way for Cardiff and £55 one way for St Brieuc if booked before January 31, 2008.
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Is the seccond weekly YYZ route an addition to the other candadian route as i heard it was instead of. If this is the case then it won't make too much of a difference.
Let's hope BE gets their AOC approval for CWL-JER. I wonder what frequency their hoping to operate the service?
I wonder if they have any more routes on their radar for S08.
Let's hope BE gets their AOC approval for CWL-JER. I wonder what frequency their hoping to operate the service?
I wonder if they have any more routes on their radar for S08.
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According to Zoom they couldnt cut any deal with BFS to operate YVR. In turn CWL has suffered as it cant operate direct from CWL.
What truth there is in this i dont know, but this is apparently what Zoom is telling passengers.
However YVR is still on sale on Travelscope with CWL as one of the departure stations.
Hopefully Zoom are looking at alternatives.
What truth there is in this i dont know, but this is apparently what Zoom is telling passengers.
However YVR is still on sale on Travelscope with CWL as one of the departure stations.
Hopefully Zoom are looking at alternatives.
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Flybe Jersey-Cardiff flights are now on sale. Monday and Friday flights begin March 24th and a Saturday flight is added from May 24th.
I’m pleased to see these extra flights to Cardiff for the summer. The route was looking disappointing for summer 2008 considering last year's competition between bmibaby and Thomsonfly. The addition of Flybe helps maintain demand and hopefully secure the route for the future.
I’m pleased to see these extra flights to Cardiff for the summer. The route was looking disappointing for summer 2008 considering last year's competition between bmibaby and Thomsonfly. The addition of Flybe helps maintain demand and hopefully secure the route for the future.
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Flybe
Nice to see that Flybe has jumped at the chance to offer CWL-JER flights which will bring the total to 5 x Weekly, but still 3 flights a less weekly compared to S07. It doesn't look like Flybe are pulling the BRS-JER yet as they are still selling seats for S08, I's guessing they would still like to keep some presence at BRS as they have a codeshare with another carrier there. I have heared that Flybe wishes to have a Check-In desk open all throughout the day in order for those that have checked-in online to drop their luggage off.
Aer Arann
Just been looking at the Aer Arann website for S08 and it is only showing 3 x daily to DUB and 1 x daily to ORK. It looks as if the french route and the GWY has dissapeared. I know that RE offer connecting flight to GWY via DUB but it is not possible to book CWL - GWY without booking 2 individual flights.
Zoom
The Zoom website is only showing a 1 x Weekly to Toronto (direct), but the route map is still showing Vancouver (unbookable on the site).
Onur Air
Holidays 4 U showing only 1 x Weekly to both Dalaman & Bodrum, even though it announces a 10% further growth from last year. As far as i can see Antalya is not available from any UK airport.
BmiBaby
Had to laugh that todays ITV weather (sponsored by BmiBaby) was showing flight from Birmingham & Manchester (for the ICE Hockey League), would have thought they would have tried to promote their flights from Cardiff.
Thomson
Is the fleet for TOM going to be 2 x 757 and 1 x 733 (or 738)? And the W Pattern aircraft, which type is planned for that? I know on sundays there will be a 4th A/C around 17:00-18:00 not sure on other days.
Airport Terminal
Word in the office is that inbound Domestic flights will soon be able to be brought in via the gates and led into the departure lounge, with a seperate exit for those wishing to reclaim their luggage. How true is this rumour? Irish Flights, having to be boarded from Gate 1 (only) is hindering possible growth now as occassionally we have flights queing to be boarded. Another problem is the fact that passengers are not allowed to be brought into the baggage reclaim area via immigration. Therefore stands 1,3,9 & 7 (very dangerouse) can be walked in, all other stands have to be bussed which shows lack of sence considering there is a perfectly good arrivals enterence on majority of all aircraft stands.
Is the 1st floor of the extended departure lounge being used yet?
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Nice to see that Flybe has jumped at the chance to offer CWL-JER flights which will bring the total to 5 x Weekly, but still 3 flights a less weekly compared to S07. It doesn't look like Flybe are pulling the BRS-JER yet as they are still selling seats for S08, I's guessing they would still like to keep some presence at BRS as they have a codeshare with another carrier there. I have heared that Flybe wishes to have a Check-In desk open all throughout the day in order for those that have checked-in online to drop their luggage off.
Aer Arann
Just been looking at the Aer Arann website for S08 and it is only showing 3 x daily to DUB and 1 x daily to ORK. It looks as if the french route and the GWY has dissapeared. I know that RE offer connecting flight to GWY via DUB but it is not possible to book CWL - GWY without booking 2 individual flights.
Zoom
The Zoom website is only showing a 1 x Weekly to Toronto (direct), but the route map is still showing Vancouver (unbookable on the site).
Onur Air
Holidays 4 U showing only 1 x Weekly to both Dalaman & Bodrum, even though it announces a 10% further growth from last year. As far as i can see Antalya is not available from any UK airport.
BmiBaby
Had to laugh that todays ITV weather (sponsored by BmiBaby) was showing flight from Birmingham & Manchester (for the ICE Hockey League), would have thought they would have tried to promote their flights from Cardiff.
Thomson
Is the fleet for TOM going to be 2 x 757 and 1 x 733 (or 738)? And the W Pattern aircraft, which type is planned for that? I know on sundays there will be a 4th A/C around 17:00-18:00 not sure on other days.
Airport Terminal
Word in the office is that inbound Domestic flights will soon be able to be brought in via the gates and led into the departure lounge, with a seperate exit for those wishing to reclaim their luggage. How true is this rumour? Irish Flights, having to be boarded from Gate 1 (only) is hindering possible growth now as occassionally we have flights queing to be boarded. Another problem is the fact that passengers are not allowed to be brought into the baggage reclaim area via immigration. Therefore stands 1,3,9 & 7 (very dangerouse) can be walked in, all other stands have to be bussed which shows lack of sence considering there is a perfectly good arrivals enterence on majority of all aircraft stands.
Is the 1st floor of the extended departure lounge being used yet?
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Wondered about the new extension too?A lot of space being wasted!Hope its used wisely in the future.Was`nt Greggs talked about?
Also heard the fire cat will stay at 7 and only go 8 for the odd flights(zoom).Since Thomson are only 752 next year
Also heard the fire cat will stay at 7 and only go 8 for the odd flights(zoom).Since Thomson are only 752 next year
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Onur Air are used by a number of tour operators, including Holidays4u, Goldtrail (their biggest customer in the UK) and first choice.
Goldtrail are selling :
Antalya is on sale 9 Jul - 1 Oct on a wednesday.
Bodrum is on sale 23 Mar - 29 Oct on Sun (then Wed at end of Oct)
Dalaman is on sale 23 mar - 29 Oct also Sun
Doesn't look like first choice are using them this year.
No option for the Mon and Tues DLM which operated in S07 so unless there's more to come, that appears to be it from OHY.
Zoom will be using the 757 on the YYZ route but is CWL-YYZ only.
Monarch will be in with the A330 to operate SFB.
Check-in space is going to be limited next summer, not including if/when the nameless airline comes in.
Goldtrail are selling :
Antalya is on sale 9 Jul - 1 Oct on a wednesday.
Bodrum is on sale 23 Mar - 29 Oct on Sun (then Wed at end of Oct)
Dalaman is on sale 23 mar - 29 Oct also Sun
Doesn't look like first choice are using them this year.
No option for the Mon and Tues DLM which operated in S07 so unless there's more to come, that appears to be it from OHY.
Zoom will be using the 757 on the YYZ route but is CWL-YYZ only.
Monarch will be in with the A330 to operate SFB.
Check-in space is going to be limited next summer, not including if/when the nameless airline comes in.