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Old 18th Nov 2010, 18:40
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Question Divert?

Showing on Cardiff FIDS for Friday A.M.?
BA0026 Hong Kong, arr 04.45am.
Divert, tech?
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Due to bad weather in London, BA will be operating it into CWL.
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Showing on Cardiff FIDS for Friday A.M.?
BA0026 Hong Kong, arr 04.45am.
Divert, tech?
Diverting so far in advanced ! and to CWL. I wonder if the a/c is due for a hangar visit too !!! - thus using the fog divert as an excuse to not have to do a ferry flight LHR-CWL. Seems a bis suspicious to me. Could be wrong though.
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Old 18th Nov 2010, 19:31
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Question Diverts

Is it fog/ice?
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Old 18th Nov 2010, 19:43
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That is some planning unless it's the same aircraft we almost had earlier in the week with a defect.

If it's that bad then we maybe likely to see either more BA aircraft or possibly other airlines from our friends at BRS

Forecast for LHR

181704Z 1818/1924 15007KT 9999 FEW010 SCT025 BECMG 1819/1822 8000 BECMG 1900/1903 3000 BR MIFG BECMG 1903/1906 0300 FG VV/// BECMG 1910/1913 3000 BR SCT002 TEMPO 1914/1924 5000 HZ TEMPO 1918/1924 BKN005=
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Old 18th Nov 2010, 20:05
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BA do a lot of pre-planning when the weather is forecast to be bad. Most times it is a false alarm however with limited space available it's first come first serve.

Using it as an excuse to divert a plane in for maintenance then i doubt it unless they are projecting reduced flow rates for arrivals into heathrow and they make an advanced decision on which ones that may need to be sacrificed.
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Old 18th Nov 2010, 20:20
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Question CWL or LHR?

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TimeFlight
numberComing From StatusTerminalFri 19 November 2010 04:50BA026HONG KONG EXPECTED 04:44 Terminal five

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Old 19th Nov 2010, 22:05
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Ryanari have diverted a flight to Cardiff due to fog in BRS. If BHX was open it would of been diverted there.
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 22:20
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FR & CWL

Now, here's an arguement waiting to happen:

1. FR never use CWL as a diversion due to ancient history...
2. BHX is [almost] equidistant to BOH to divert to, so why CWL?
3. Get over it: CWL+BRS are convenient for each other diverts - simple!

p.s. Probably, the fuel uplift at Venice [Treviso] wasn't enough to; (a) cirlce @ BRS; (b) divert to an airfield further away.

...less negativity. Thanks!
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 22:53
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Last winter CWL also seen a lone divert of a Stanstead or Luton based Ryanair aircraft. I believe that CWL is not a preffered alternate for Ryanair however it is still used occasionally as demonstrated last night.

There maybe an added factor of wx conditions at BOH possibly worse than CWL providing a better option or could it be one of the ex CWL based WW captains who are more familiar with the CWL facilities.

Same can be said on the 2 x Flybe diverts into BRS rather than CWL as has happened in the past but in all fairness if technical assistance is required then EXT is closer for the engineers.
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Old 21st Nov 2010, 09:00
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FR always divert to a base where possible as you don't have to make ad hoc arrangements with handlers and engineers. You also have crews on standby to reposition the aircraft when you can. FR don't use CWL if they can use BHX or BOH for that reason and nothing to do with history.

CWL is not listed as a div on FR flight plans but I know the BRS guys always keep CWL in the back pocket as a bolt hole as BHX has a pretty poor fog record and BOH base is shut in fog season so there is a good chance you might get the odd BRS divert especially with an easterly wind !

It's not political it's operational.
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Old 21st Nov 2010, 21:48
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Worked the Ryanair following the go-around. Crew wanted to div to BOH, but airport unable to accept them; hence the decision to go to Cardiff.
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You should have persuaded them to stick around and send a couple more aircraft over! Cardiff really need to get Ryanair back, I know people will say that they wouldn't compete with themselves and take passengers away from Bristol but I dont think this would be true. With a couple of well managed routes Ryanair could expand their passenger catchment area by having 2 aircraft based at Cardiff, the demand is here! All it needs is a bit of planning and for the airport marketing team to strike a good deal. They need to think of the extra income they would get with people spending money in the airport at the bar and overpriced food facilities.

I am fed up for seeing adverts to fly with Ryanair at Bristol, it is time for a change! BRING RYANAIR BACK TO CARDIFF!
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Old 22nd Nov 2010, 12:31
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Summer 2011

So far:

TCX - 1 x A320 Based

TOM - 1 x 757 and 1 x 738 Based

WW - 2 x 733

NM? BE?
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Old 29th Nov 2010, 09:28
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Hawarden Airport

See todays Anglesey flight operating out of Chester airport, due to Valley being closed. (HWY/CWL).
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Old 30th Nov 2010, 00:10
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Nice to see that Hawarden accepted the divert. It is a shame that they object to allowing scheduled services into the airport.
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Old 30th Nov 2010, 17:27
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I hear Blue Islands is front runner to get the new CWL Valley contract Any vibes down there
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Old 30th Nov 2010, 23:20
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I would be dissapointed if Blue Island win the contract.

Manx2 have provided an excellent service, punctual reliable and crew are excellent.

Not only that but Manx2 have made comments in the past that providing they are succesful in winning the 4 year contract then we are likely to see more routes from Cardiff and not just CWL-VLY.

If it's not broke don't fix it as passengers don't like change.

Worse of all leaving it this late won't provide any airline with advanced bookings as the last flight is 10th of December.
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Old 1st Dec 2010, 00:12
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Wales Air Network showing that Thomson Airways Boeing 757-200 ACE-LGW has diverted in.

Also looks like there maybe a Monarch on the way also

Source
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Old 1st Dec 2010, 18:56
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North-South airlink

I heard only one company put in a bid and I haven't heard anything about Blue island.
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