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The world of HH6702
Is an an interesting one..I think if you look back over his previous posts..most of them are in his imagination!!
maybe a frustrated CEO/airport planner/travel agent/spotter ?
maybe a frustrated CEO/airport planner/travel agent/spotter ?
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No it wouldn't prevent a repeat. Obviously I'm not going to say how, but any fool could work it out in about 10 seconds flat! So as I said above, it achieves nothing and inconveniences everyone.
In fact it may well prevent a repeat of the GLA attack, but for security reasons it is not really appropriate to say how. Just be glad that something is being done with consideration for your safety and security, RAFAT.
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Hi
So it looks like Eastern Airways have won the battle on the Aberdeen route as Flybe have not put it on sale for summer 2008.
Summer flybe routes from LBA
Exeter = Once daily
Bergerac = Once weekly on Saturdays
Belfast City = 3 X's MON-FRI, 1 X SAT & 2 X's SUN
Southampton = 3 X's MON-FRI, 1 X SAT & 2 X's SUN
It also looks as though the Inverness route has come under attack now from Flybe. As they announced a daily direct SOU-INV route. So Pax won't have to travel from SOU to INV via LBA anymore.
Can Eastern sustain the Inverness service with just LBA pax??
So it looks like Eastern Airways have won the battle on the Aberdeen route as Flybe have not put it on sale for summer 2008.
Summer flybe routes from LBA
Exeter = Once daily
Bergerac = Once weekly on Saturdays
Belfast City = 3 X's MON-FRI, 1 X SAT & 2 X's SUN
Southampton = 3 X's MON-FRI, 1 X SAT & 2 X's SUN
It also looks as though the Inverness route has come under attack now from Flybe. As they announced a daily direct SOU-INV route. So Pax won't have to travel from SOU to INV via LBA anymore.
Can Eastern sustain the Inverness service with just LBA pax??
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What was the large 4-engined aircraft that passed over Leeds city centre at around 10:00am on the 23rd?
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"No it wouldn't prevent a repeat. Obviously I'm not going to say how, but any fool could work it out in about 10 seconds flat! So as I said above, it achieves nothing and inconveniences everyone. "
RAFAT, you are clearly a Counter-Terrorism guru and I bow to your superior knowledge. I will say no more on this subject
RAFAT, you are clearly a Counter-Terrorism guru and I bow to your superior knowledge. I will say no more on this subject
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robo283 - all I will say is have a look at where the traffic is being diverted and all will become blindingly obvious. Additionally, the road isn't fully physically blocked off, it's just a security operative standing there letting the occasional vehicle through! It should either be open with full access, or totally and physically closed off with no access, no half measures!
My point is that if such procedures are introduced, for God's sake do the job properly or not at all.
My point is that if such procedures are introduced, for God's sake do the job properly or not at all.
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I have to agree with RAFAT on this one Robo. The principle of shutting the road off to traffic is fine if it applies to all traffic. The minute we start letting gold card holders and taxis up to the terminal front it defeats the object. As things stand security officers are being put at risk. I was told that one security officer was injured a couple of weeks back, reason unknown but it's not rocket science to think that it's only a matter of time before someone is seriously hurt, run over or knocked down. It's no wonder the police aren't there and have left things to airport security. Who's going to pick up the pieces when things go wrong and the claim goes in. Remember, I told you so!
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Just something I have noticed on the Shaheen Airlines OperationTheme !
If you go on there website both Leeds and Doncaster can be selected in the bookings window for depature points but if you look at the destination map only "Sheffield" is shown so I suppose that refers to Doncaster. Maybe they are playing the two airfields off against each other for the best deal ! My money is on Donny as it has the runway length and as a result the ability for a max take off weight departure which Leeds still has made no move to try and resolve as far as we know.
If you go on there website both Leeds and Doncaster can be selected in the bookings window for depature points but if you look at the destination map only "Sheffield" is shown so I suppose that refers to Doncaster. Maybe they are playing the two airfields off against each other for the best deal ! My money is on Donny as it has the runway length and as a result the ability for a max take off weight departure which Leeds still has made no move to try and resolve as far as we know.
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ok boys after my three sector night I thought I might have lost the plot ! So I had another look today. There are several sites if you "google" the name of the airline Wikipedia shows flights to Glasgow Luton and Stansted starting 2008/9 and flights to Leeds starting Feb 2008. If you go to the site Airline Fact sheet with Shaheen Air International Route Map-Hubs which is the 7th site from the top of the list,the departure box shows empty but if you type in Doncaster or Leeds both will load. If you then drag the small map to the right of the page to the Uk Leeds or Doncaster are not shown only Sheffield
Have a go someone see if you have the same or maybe I have a haunted computer !
Other Web sites also seem to show different information about them. Apologies to the mods if this infringes advertising rules just trying to point out where I found this.
Have a go someone see if you have the same or maybe I have a haunted computer !
Other Web sites also seem to show different information about them. Apologies to the mods if this infringes advertising rules just trying to point out where I found this.
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Such inability to establish facts or consistencies regarding this outfit only suggests that there is a gulf between its aspirations and reality.
They should not be taken seriously until something that looks serious appears - such as a press release promoted by the airport operators.
Don't get your hopes up - though I'd be pleased if it comes off.
They may have checked the civil press and read that LBA possesses a 2,250 metre runway (that is literally correct).
However, when they get their experts onto it they may clench when they see the TODA figures.
They should not be taken seriously until something that looks serious appears - such as a press release promoted by the airport operators.
Don't get your hopes up - though I'd be pleased if it comes off.
They may have checked the civil press and read that LBA possesses a 2,250 metre runway (that is literally correct).
However, when they get their experts onto it they may clench when they see the TODA figures.
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Looks like bmi's deal with the Airport and that London link is up for renewal again.
I wonder if the new airport owners Bridgepoint Capital will hopefully get some help from Leeds Chamber of Commence, Yorkshire Forward and so on to save the link. Even if it means dropping some fees or putting some private funding into place to save it. It can be done, and has been done by several other airports around here.
It’s a vital service, which I don’t think the airport could replace anytime soon.
Here's a News Release from Braford's Telegraph and Argus paper. http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.u...n_air_link.php
Looks like bmi's deal with the Airport and that London link is up for renewal again.
I wonder if the new airport owners Bridgepoint Capital will hopefully get some help from Leeds Chamber of Commence, Yorkshire Forward and so on to save the link. Even if it means dropping some fees or putting some private funding into place to save it. It can be done, and has been done by several other airports around here.
It’s a vital service, which I don’t think the airport could replace anytime soon.
Here's a News Release from Braford's Telegraph and Argus paper. http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.u...n_air_link.php
New doubts raised over London air link
By Mark Casci
The future of the only air link between Leeds-Bradford International Airport and London has been called into question by airline bosses.
Sir Michael Bishop, chairman of airline BMI - the only airline to fly between Leeds-Bradford and Heathrow - has called into question the cost of airport charges at the Yeadon airport and described them as an issue that needs to be resolved in order to maintain the service.
A letter from Sir Michael to Michael Goodwin, chairman of Leeds-Bradford, lists a series of concerns regarding the Heathrow service.
In the letter Sir Michael says: "These fees will need to drop significantly in cash terms for the service to remain viable.
"Airport charges are a big percentage of the cost base of any short haul route and remain higher at Leeds Bradford than we pay at any other airports in our network.
"We note that the airport has been recently sold at a premium and its new owners will be keen to re-coup their investment.
"Therefore this is a serious issue and we did write to the financial advisors handling the bid process making them aware of our requirement to pay considerably less if the service was to be maintained."
Sir Michael also mentions that other regional airports have gained financial support from "local interests", desperate to retain the link to Heathrow and suggested this as an option for Leeds-Bradford.
He also urged business and leisure groups to "use the service or lose it".
The issue is to be discussed at a Leeds-Bradford Airport Consultative Committee meeting tomorrow. Sir Michael had been responding to a letter from Mr Goodwin, expressing concerns that the connection may be under threat due to the knock on effect of increased charges at Heathrow.
Peter Willis, operations director at Leeds-Bradford played down the speculation that the service could be lost between the region and Heathrow.
He said that the level of charges would be discussed between both parties - although a settlement was some way from being established.
He also said that passenger levels on the London Heathrow service "went through peaks and troughs".
BMI operates several services a day between Leeds-Bradford and Heathrow.
By Mark Casci
The future of the only air link between Leeds-Bradford International Airport and London has been called into question by airline bosses.
Sir Michael Bishop, chairman of airline BMI - the only airline to fly between Leeds-Bradford and Heathrow - has called into question the cost of airport charges at the Yeadon airport and described them as an issue that needs to be resolved in order to maintain the service.
A letter from Sir Michael to Michael Goodwin, chairman of Leeds-Bradford, lists a series of concerns regarding the Heathrow service.
In the letter Sir Michael says: "These fees will need to drop significantly in cash terms for the service to remain viable.
"Airport charges are a big percentage of the cost base of any short haul route and remain higher at Leeds Bradford than we pay at any other airports in our network.
"We note that the airport has been recently sold at a premium and its new owners will be keen to re-coup their investment.
"Therefore this is a serious issue and we did write to the financial advisors handling the bid process making them aware of our requirement to pay considerably less if the service was to be maintained."
Sir Michael also mentions that other regional airports have gained financial support from "local interests", desperate to retain the link to Heathrow and suggested this as an option for Leeds-Bradford.
He also urged business and leisure groups to "use the service or lose it".
The issue is to be discussed at a Leeds-Bradford Airport Consultative Committee meeting tomorrow. Sir Michael had been responding to a letter from Mr Goodwin, expressing concerns that the connection may be under threat due to the knock on effect of increased charges at Heathrow.
Peter Willis, operations director at Leeds-Bradford played down the speculation that the service could be lost between the region and Heathrow.
He said that the level of charges would be discussed between both parties - although a settlement was some way from being established.
He also said that passenger levels on the London Heathrow service "went through peaks and troughs".
BMI operates several services a day between Leeds-Bradford and Heathrow.
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I was working at LBA when it was seen as "amazing" anyone would put a B734on such a route -1988-9???
I'll be suprised if they pull off, that would be down to Jet2 to begin LBA-LGW then (LHR slots would be out of the question)
I'll be suprised if they pull off, that would be down to Jet2 to begin LBA-LGW then (LHR slots would be out of the question)
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Bring it on! I had to go by train last time (with no noticeable improvement to the climate as far as I can make out!).
Why doesn't someone start a 'lo-co' train service (Train2.com??)?
Why doesn't someone start a 'lo-co' train service (Train2.com??)?
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It's PR.
BMI WILL pull LHR to use their slots on more profitable routes (open skies remember).
Sir MB is bull******** over LBA charges as a justification for dropping the route. Even if Yorkshire Forward stump up a subsidy they will pull the route.
We're being softened up for the inevitable.
BMI WILL pull LHR to use their slots on more profitable routes (open skies remember).
Sir MB is bull******** over LBA charges as a justification for dropping the route. Even if Yorkshire Forward stump up a subsidy they will pull the route.
We're being softened up for the inevitable.
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Indeed, the route is inevitably a goner, at least in the interim between open skies and the 3rd runway.
The use of the service now is only really as a linkage to LHR connections. It is pretty useless as a London link in the face of the train service, so to think that an LGW or similar service will appear afterwards is fanciful IMHO.
The use of the service now is only really as a linkage to LHR connections. It is pretty useless as a London link in the face of the train service, so to think that an LGW or similar service will appear afterwards is fanciful IMHO.