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park avenue for dinner....you cheapskate!!!
was down at conswater today and still sounds ok. there must have been a lot of noise of the winglets. anyway good luck to them. i never expected them to leave BFS. will german wings come next to start somthing european now?
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you mention Mainline staff and bmi, does this mean that WW flights use BD Check-in desks, and door A for boarding?
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yes, its BMI staff for check-in and dispatch, then servisair ramp.. there will be teething problems for awhile, this is probably due to the increase of flights for Servisair.. so it could also be down to staffing levels as no doubt servisair took the minimum staff needed for the ramp, as sometimes at BFS they struggled when they had all 4 WW's down..
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Was at BHD tonight collecting a friend from the bmibaby Cardiff and what an utter fiasco!!! Parked in Ikea (for a bit of spotting), told him to text me when he landed, so could head to the airport and collect him within the ten minute window given.
Took 3 light changes at the by-pass junction to get into the airport as the traffic was tailed back not allowing any new cars to cross into the airport. Vehicles parked around the roundabout, where it clearly stats No Waiting (no one to move them on??). Finally got into the set-down / pick-up area, and was bunged beyond belief. Everyone double parking, taxi's with hazard lights on, blocking other parked vehicles; complete mess. Mate arrived after about 5 minutes, but cars queue'd to get out through the barriers. Would appear that the two vehicles at the exit for city centre had exceeded their 10 minutes, leaving their cars at the barriers as they ran back to pay. This created a whole jam, through the set-down area. Decided to try the other car park exit, but blocked with the jam already in place.
Got round to the other car park exit. Didn't want me to block the barrier myself, so my mate took the ticket and his £1.80 change to see if we needed to pay. Came back to tell me it was £2!!! And that some man in the same situation had is bank card eaten by the machine and had no other way to pay. Therefore relunctantly we too paid by card, back into the car, queue'd some more to exit, as we watched as about 3 cars all pulled up, put in their ticket, and then realised they too had to pay, blocking the exit (as cars behind in the queue) while they ran to pay. A complete and utter shambolic mess. Is this the result of 4 baby's all down at once, amongst others, generally lack of set-down space, poor layout or what. Plus an older man who looked a little like an attendent, running back and forth not really seeming to help the situation.
Generally I have to say, past occasions it's worked fine, but if this is going to be the norm for the morning and evening rush, it's an absolute disgrace!! Nice spacious modern terminal, but let down by horrendous facilities for set-down / pick-up... Hopefully a one off.
Not to get into BFS vs BHD, but dropped the same mate off at Aldergrove Friday evening, and the whole thing quick and easy, loads of space (maybe speaks volumes), and half the cost at £1 (as was expected so change at hand).
Took 3 light changes at the by-pass junction to get into the airport as the traffic was tailed back not allowing any new cars to cross into the airport. Vehicles parked around the roundabout, where it clearly stats No Waiting (no one to move them on??). Finally got into the set-down / pick-up area, and was bunged beyond belief. Everyone double parking, taxi's with hazard lights on, blocking other parked vehicles; complete mess. Mate arrived after about 5 minutes, but cars queue'd to get out through the barriers. Would appear that the two vehicles at the exit for city centre had exceeded their 10 minutes, leaving their cars at the barriers as they ran back to pay. This created a whole jam, through the set-down area. Decided to try the other car park exit, but blocked with the jam already in place.
Got round to the other car park exit. Didn't want me to block the barrier myself, so my mate took the ticket and his £1.80 change to see if we needed to pay. Came back to tell me it was £2!!! And that some man in the same situation had is bank card eaten by the machine and had no other way to pay. Therefore relunctantly we too paid by card, back into the car, queue'd some more to exit, as we watched as about 3 cars all pulled up, put in their ticket, and then realised they too had to pay, blocking the exit (as cars behind in the queue) while they ran to pay. A complete and utter shambolic mess. Is this the result of 4 baby's all down at once, amongst others, generally lack of set-down space, poor layout or what. Plus an older man who looked a little like an attendent, running back and forth not really seeming to help the situation.
Generally I have to say, past occasions it's worked fine, but if this is going to be the norm for the morning and evening rush, it's an absolute disgrace!! Nice spacious modern terminal, but let down by horrendous facilities for set-down / pick-up... Hopefully a one off.
Not to get into BFS vs BHD, but dropped the same mate off at Aldergrove Friday evening, and the whole thing quick and easy, loads of space (maybe speaks volumes), and half the cost at £1 (as was expected so change at hand).
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From what I have seen this problem mainly occurs during the evening as most of the aircraft all arrive back for the night around the same time. During the middle of the day when the arrivals are a bit more spaced out it seems to be a bit clearer. Therefore im afraid you will probably come across it again. Since they have stopped letting you pick up/drop off from outside the terminal all it seems to have managed to cause is lots of traffic jams, but no doubt has made the airport a nice load of £££ from people exceeding their free 10 minutes.
The light timing to get into the airport off the by-pass is a joke and needs to be changed as it stays red far far too long. I have also on several occasions been following someone into the airport and then they decide to stop in front of you on the round about in the area where it is painted in big letters NO WAITING
. The airport should really have someone there monitoring this and moving people on asap. Another popular trick is driving along and then just before you get to the crossing between the drop off and the path to the terminal people will just stop their car and decide to unload their bags and passengers there, completely blocking the road. Didn't they read that the first 10 minutes are FREE. Especially as they are dropping off so won't be hanging about waiting for someone. With regards to the car park situation its is bit of everything really. There is a lack of space in the drop off not helped by usually been full of lots of taxis waiting for people. This could be solved by at least letting all the taxis pick up from outside the terminal. The drop off area could also do with been bigger but then that would mean less spaces in the carpark and then less £££ which we all know is king. Also this is probably all not helped by the introduction of more flights and airlines resulting in more passengers to pick up. Finally the last situation you mention with regards to people finding out they have over stayed the 10 minutes and having to rush back to pay for tickets, and not having enough change and having the machine eat your card etc. This could be solved by making it say 20-30 minutes free. But again in this day and age where airports are no longer interested in looking after the passenger and more interested in extracting as much ££ from you instead, don't expect the 10 mins to increase any time soon. A good idea which I have seen at a couple of US airports is that they actually have a small car park off the airport where you can park for free and wait, then when your friend is outside the airport you can simply drive up and they are there and ready to go. Gets around people waiting on slip roads. Maybe a use for the old parking area near the old terminal??
Finally my last rant at the airport would be, BUY A NEW BUS. The number of times I see whilst sitting on the flight deck people getting completely soaked when it rains having to run from the long stay car park whilst juggling bags, baby, pull along bag etc. If they are not going to buy a new bus, at least build a covered walk way as far as the car park. There's a reason why there is a lot of green grass in NI.
P.s is maybe BFS helped in the fact that they have the long road leading up to the airport where you can park at the side and wait without having to block up the roads on the airport, where as at BHD the only place where you can sort of do the same thing is at the old entry point to the airport need the train station. Therefore we end up with the mess you have described.
The light timing to get into the airport off the by-pass is a joke and needs to be changed as it stays red far far too long. I have also on several occasions been following someone into the airport and then they decide to stop in front of you on the round about in the area where it is painted in big letters NO WAITING
. The airport should really have someone there monitoring this and moving people on asap. Another popular trick is driving along and then just before you get to the crossing between the drop off and the path to the terminal people will just stop their car and decide to unload their bags and passengers there, completely blocking the road. Didn't they read that the first 10 minutes are FREE. Especially as they are dropping off so won't be hanging about waiting for someone. With regards to the car park situation its is bit of everything really. There is a lack of space in the drop off not helped by usually been full of lots of taxis waiting for people. This could be solved by at least letting all the taxis pick up from outside the terminal. The drop off area could also do with been bigger but then that would mean less spaces in the carpark and then less £££ which we all know is king. Also this is probably all not helped by the introduction of more flights and airlines resulting in more passengers to pick up. Finally the last situation you mention with regards to people finding out they have over stayed the 10 minutes and having to rush back to pay for tickets, and not having enough change and having the machine eat your card etc. This could be solved by making it say 20-30 minutes free. But again in this day and age where airports are no longer interested in looking after the passenger and more interested in extracting as much ££ from you instead, don't expect the 10 mins to increase any time soon. A good idea which I have seen at a couple of US airports is that they actually have a small car park off the airport where you can park for free and wait, then when your friend is outside the airport you can simply drive up and they are there and ready to go. Gets around people waiting on slip roads. Maybe a use for the old parking area near the old terminal??Finally my last rant at the airport would be, BUY A NEW BUS. The number of times I see whilst sitting on the flight deck people getting completely soaked when it rains having to run from the long stay car park whilst juggling bags, baby, pull along bag etc. If they are not going to buy a new bus, at least build a covered walk way as far as the car park. There's a reason why there is a lot of green grass in NI.
P.s is maybe BFS helped in the fact that they have the long road leading up to the airport where you can park at the side and wait without having to block up the roads on the airport, where as at BHD the only place where you can sort of do the same thing is at the old entry point to the airport need the train station. Therefore we end up with the mess you have described.
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Noticed this article recently -
I have travelled to LHR many times with bmi without being asked for ID. Was the whole ID on domestic flights not brought in by the loco's to stop people buying tickets and then allowing other people to use them, without paying for the name change?? Does BA ask for ID on domestic flights??
Ikea, Tesco Knocknagoney, Holywood Exchange. All ample parking, and all convenient to the airport. Just some meeters / greeters haven't an ounce of sense!! Park the car, wait for the call, and then make your way over to the airport.
Concerns have been raised about security at Belfast City Airport after a passenger boarded a flight to London without once being asked for ID, the Belfast Telegraph reports. The man told the newspaper he was surprised to pass through the airport’s security points and departure gate without being asked to provide any identification.
The passenger was flying to Heathrow with airline bmi, who told the newspaper that ‘airlines are not obliged to check passenger identification with domestic flights’, although it is very unusual for this not to happen. An East Belfast MLA has called for tighter security at the airport following the incident.
The passenger was flying to Heathrow with airline bmi, who told the newspaper that ‘airlines are not obliged to check passenger identification with domestic flights’, although it is very unusual for this not to happen. An East Belfast MLA has called for tighter security at the airport following the incident.
P.s is maybe BFS helped in the fact that they have the long road leading up to the airport where you can park at the side and wait without having to block up the roads on the airport, where as at BHD the only place where you can sort of do the same thing is at the old entry point to the airport need the train station. Therefore we end up with the mess you have described.
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Likewise I have travelled many times on the BMI flight to LHR and never been asked to show any ID at any stage. Suprised it's taken this long for someone to mention it to the press.
Ikea, Tesco Knocknagoney, Holywood Exchange. All ample parking, and all convenient to the airport. Just some meeters / greeters haven't an ounce of sense!! Park the car, wait for the call, and then make your way over to the airport.
Common sense seems to be a rare thing these days with some of the general population!!
Likewise I have travelled many times on the BMI flight to LHR and never been asked to show any ID at any stage. Suprised it's taken this long for someone to mention it to the press.
Ikea, Tesco Knocknagoney, Holywood Exchange. All ample parking, and all convenient to the airport. Just some meeters / greeters haven't an ounce of sense!! Park the car, wait for the call, and then make your way over to the airport.
Common sense seems to be a rare thing these days with some of the general population!!
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There is NO justification for ID to be shown for an INTERNAL flight. It was introduced SOLELY for the LOCO's pricing policy. i.e. I buy a ticket at 1.99 and sell it on at a profit(albeit STILL cheaper than the current web fare).
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id on domestic flights is a loco thing. do you show id travelling on the enterprise to dublin or on the ferry to scotland? NO!
if you are transiting thru lhr and being issued with onto boarding pass or thru checking bags then you will be asked for your passport. if bmi was required to check all id by law then it would. if someone wants to show off their photo then travel with the loco airlines who simply glance at the id anyway.... not really paying much attention to it!!
if you are transiting thru lhr and being issued with onto boarding pass or thru checking bags then you will be asked for your passport. if bmi was required to check all id by law then it would. if someone wants to show off their photo then travel with the loco airlines who simply glance at the id anyway.... not really paying much attention to it!!
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id on domestic flights is a loco thing. do you show id travelling on the enterprise to dublin or on the ferry to scotland? NO!
if you are transiting thru lhr and being issued with onto boarding pass or thru checking bags then you will be asked for your passport. if bmi was required to check all id by law then it would. if someone wants to show off their photo then travel with the loco airlines who simply glance at the id anyway.... not really paying much attention to it!!
if you are transiting thru lhr and being issued with onto boarding pass or thru checking bags then you will be asked for your passport. if bmi was required to check all id by law then it would. if someone wants to show off their photo then travel with the loco airlines who simply glance at the id anyway.... not really paying much attention to it!!
On a recent MAN-LHR flight with BA we were actively told to 'put your passports and I.D's away and just hold open your boarding pass'.
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More muck to throw at BHD.
i saw the 'story' too. mr newton of the dup is well known for face in paper facts later. cant wait till he queue jumps me in the belmont bethany again! is that your jag parked on the doubel yellow lines?
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not heard a thing about them coming back. but with the seat limit removed and possable runway development who knows. they are likely still on sir brian's wish list.
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Maybe, they are starting EMA,MAN,BHX,LTN..... from BFS and have got the airports mixed up again. As when they started in 2007 from BHD they used BFS by mistake on their website. (I hope its not true FR would tip NI aviation up side down)
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Maybe, they are starting EMA,MAN,BHX,LTN..... from BFS and have got the airports mixed up again. As when they started in 2007 from BHD they used BFS by mistake on their website. (I hope its not true FR would tip NI aviation up side down)
I think if BE were clever in the fight against ww they would add a token service on BFS MAN & BHX as this would attract the customers who wish to fly from BFS also give WW a bigger challenge on BHD operations and more importantly send a strong message to BHD airport. Ie that BE could move if needed (though unlikely in my view).
From my point of view I would just love to have FR on MAN though I cant see any development on that routes due to the historic relationship with MAN apt and the fact that a base would then be needed at BFS.
Separately, any rumours of EZY moving the LTN back to BFS surely must be uncertain given that WW is on STN from BHD, any move away from BHD of the LTN service, would this attract BE or WW to it?
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