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Old 23rd Jan 2011, 19:54
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Bhd - Ams

it may be on the mayfly. but as a dash! the 195 / 170 should be the one to use. anyway BE say not direct but via MAN. we shall see. maybe part of the CARR plan.
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Bmi Regional At Bhd?

Saw the report in flight global about BMI. it says about baby regional and mainline at BHD!
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Bmi Regional At Bhd?

Saw the report in flight global about BMI. it says about baby regional and mainline at BHD! misqoute?
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Fingers crossed for BRU with codeshare!!
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the bmi regional probably refers to the fact that over the weekends during the summer schedule bmi regional will be operating the embraer a/c to LHR on certain rotations. no regional new services.
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Maybe it's refering to when regional used to operate EMA from BHD before baby came along
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 16:15
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All this talk about bmi and 'the right move to bhd'

1. It will seem that way until the day (which has to happen) were services start BFS - MAN & BHX, at that point it will become the wrong move.
2. With the talk about Bmi using an alternative continental hub and cutting services to LHR, what is the maximum size of aircraft that can reach Frankfurt or Brussels with a full load from Bhd?
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 19:22
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Frankfurt is slot restricted and there's huge demand, especially at peak times, so I doubt BHD would get a FRA route. BRU maybe...
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 20:16
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From the loads I've seen on the bmibaby board at BHD it seems like a good move. They'll certainly give flybe a run for their money.
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 20:36
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For instance the Flybe and Bmi Baby flight to Birmingham depart at the same time and the Flybe had 44 pax on it while Baby had 112
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 22:04
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IF thats the pax numbers Bmi Baby are getting on there BHX route then the pax numbers have not increased because that is the kind of loads they were getting on there Bhx flights from Bfs.I would'nt call that a good move there is no increase in passenger numbers just same passengers going from a different airport.
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 22:09
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forgot about that

i forgot about the bd ema - bhd service with the blue tailed 146. did they use the f100 On it? saw a few s340 diverts years ago. its a quiet time of year so summer will tell.
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 22:11
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IF thats the pax numbers Bmi Baby are getting on there BHX route then the pax numbers have not increased because that is the kind of loads they were getting on there Bhx flights from Bfs.I would'nt call that a good move there is no increase in passenger numbers just same passengers going from a different airport.
Well it's not a bad move either if they are still achieving the same/similar loads... especially when competing head to head with flybe who have a higher daily frequency at BHX and MAN. We all know it was more to do with money saving in terms of bringing in the bmi operations together at BHD for ground staff along with ''apparently'' a deal on cheaper landing fees than at BFS. It wasn't neccessarily to gain extra passengers although with the amount of publicity bmibaby have been doing over in Belfast of late they may just see an increase to all their routes which is obviously good news.
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 22:12
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Pax numbers are just the same same people different airport.
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 22:19
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Then if Bfs get MAN,BHX.gaps filled thats when you will see if it was good move.You have to remember there are only so many people going to fly out of belfast on domestic flights to the mainland the big market for domestic flights is shrinking each year the airlines are not making much money on them anymore so they are putting the aircraft onto more profitable routes.
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Old 27th Jan 2011, 22:35
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Bhx - Bhd

I would wait to the January CAA stats are published before giving a verdict.

I calculate the BHX figures for another forum and although I have been a
bit slack with domestics 112 as an average has hardly ever been achieved.

The last few months the BHX-BFS had dropped like a stone and the average
per flight was more like 80. However I realise over a month BFS-BHX would have had several loads 112 plus without doubt and the average would have been dragged down by the BHX-BFS morning service Tuesday to Thursday.

Also the other aspect to take into account is that Baby were selling the BHD-BHX route at £22 return on several flights during January albeit for a short period but it will distort the figures.

Only Baby will know if it has been a good move by the yields obtained and that will take a few months to get a meaningful view of how things are panning out.

I too have heard good loads on the route but unless you get to know about every flight for the whole month it is just guess work without the full pax and yield figures. However I still like the guess work and hearing the current loads even if it is far from the perfect way of how to judge a routes viability.

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Old 29th Jan 2011, 11:29
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Good loads

the loads on the baby flights at bhd are very good. the bhx seems to be the strongest performer, although all routes are excellent. very busy when we have the 4 a/c on the ground at night at once. great buzz!!
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Old 29th Jan 2011, 14:15
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Rumour has it that BFS may be benefitting from some extra out of hours BHD diversions from the start of February.
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Old 29th Jan 2011, 21:23
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Question

Not sure what you mean, TR, can you elaborate?
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Old 29th Jan 2011, 23:24
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runway repairs

50p says patching the holes in the taxiway and runway. ps hows life in the sand pit?
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