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I believe the NQY route was doing ok until the walla's at waterside, in their wisdom, implemented a company wide policy on the carrying of surfboards. Mainly that we wouldn't - thus died the rational for going to NQY for the weekend. Shame.
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Well Cornishsimon according to the PPrune British Airways experts on here it will be a cold day in hell before Cityflyer gets new aircraft or expands any further!!!!
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Hi Groundhog.
Fingers crossed for the NQY SKB..have already requested a transfer to NQY in the vain hope..would certainly cut down my fuel miles. Lands End to NQY..60 Mins..LGW 6 hours..But seriously..dont think BA will be back in NQY for a while..operated that flight at various times and the max pax was 55 on a -500. Occasionally the-400 did it and was full (147), but you can probably count how many times that occurred on one hand.
Am pleased in a way, as always had a soft spot for ASW/BRY so pleased they are there to pick up the pieces..code share would work well. Have always been under the impression BA have money in ASW..but may be confusing it with BRY
Fingers crossed for the NQY SKB..have already requested a transfer to NQY in the vain hope..would certainly cut down my fuel miles. Lands End to NQY..60 Mins..LGW 6 hours..But seriously..dont think BA will be back in NQY for a while..operated that flight at various times and the max pax was 55 on a -500. Occasionally the-400 did it and was full (147), but you can probably count how many times that occurred on one hand.
Am pleased in a way, as always had a soft spot for ASW/BRY so pleased they are there to pick up the pieces..code share would work well. Have always been under the impression BA have money in ASW..but may be confusing it with BRY
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Passneger numbers in the Uk have grown considerably yet the "home" airline has singularly failed everywhere with the exception of Heathrow. How can they remain British Airways with ample demonstrations of its contempt for anything regional.
It still amuses me how when they had the challenges of the T5 opening Management asked for additional staff from the ticket desks in the regions to be told " Sorry we shut them all down recently" Oh "did we?"
It still amuses me how when they had the challenges of the T5 opening Management asked for additional staff from the ticket desks in the regions to be told " Sorry we shut them all down recently" Oh "did we?"
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How can they remain British Airways with ample demonstrations of its contempt for anything regional
Why don't you start campaigning to rename AF Air Paris? They're just as focused around the capital city, if not more so, than BA.
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TOP TIP Ground hog,go on line exactly 23 hours and 59 mins before your flight departs, and book your seats as soon as it opens..for the first few minutes you will have a vast array of seats to choose from, even the emergency exit doors are released..with the provisio if ground staff dont feel you be suitable for these seats, they will move at the gate. don't try any sooner as the system wont allow you and you may have to start again. Another good idea is to do some research beforehand on comparision websites about airline seating plans to give you a rough idea.
Another top tip...you already have you seats, DONT rush to board, stay in the lounge/gate area until they are calling for you. As this is when adhoc upgrades are given. And Im sure you know if you dress smart are polite to checkin..they will note that in the system that you are an SFU (Suitable for upgrade)!! Gook Luck BG
Another top tip...you already have you seats, DONT rush to board, stay in the lounge/gate area until they are calling for you. As this is when adhoc upgrades are given. And Im sure you know if you dress smart are polite to checkin..they will note that in the system that you are an SFU (Suitable for upgrade)!! Gook Luck BG
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BA and NQY
NQY- was a slot saver the average load factor as already memtioned was 50 pax with yes the friday ex LGW and Sunday ex NQY being fairly busy. However some flights operated with 20-25 pax which on a J41 would be fine but on a 737 was financial stupidity. They gave the route over a year and because things didn't approve it was pulled.
Also all this rubbish about contempt for the regions. If BA didn't pull it's regional services. They might not have been a BA today. BA still codesshares with BE on flights ex BHX and MAN and operates services form LON to EDI/GLA/ABZ/NCL/MAN and JER. Last time I checked those airports were regional unless the geography of the uk has chanced.
BA gave the regions a chance they didn't use the routes they offered so they where pulled. BA is a business not a regional travel charity.
Also all this rubbish about contempt for the regions. If BA didn't pull it's regional services. They might not have been a BA today. BA still codesshares with BE on flights ex BHX and MAN and operates services form LON to EDI/GLA/ABZ/NCL/MAN and JER. Last time I checked those airports were regional unless the geography of the uk has chanced.
BA gave the regions a chance they didn't use the routes they offered so they where pulled. BA is a business not a regional travel charity.
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Cityflyer wont get to take over all domestics operated by mainline as i think their is a clause re 100 seater etc .
But hey you never know with BA and they are rumoured to be doing a big recruitment campaign next year !
But hey you never know with BA and they are rumoured to be doing a big recruitment campaign next year !
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BA gave the regions a chance they didn't use the routes they offered so they where pulled. BA is a business not a regional travel charity.
Not to mention KLM who are happy to connect passengers to their hub from a much wider variety of airports in the UK than BA.
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BMI operate a very random assortment of routes, aircraft and classes that seem to change almost every week. Their main focus is still LHR. They certainly don't have any consistent product linking the regions directly to Europe.
flyBe, easyJet, Ryanair and Jet2 are all lowcost airlines with a completely different business model to BA. These sort of business models work in the regions, BA's doesn't.
Indeed, but only because AMS has 6 runways while LHR has 2. BA would gladly connect more airports in the UK to LHR but they simply do not have the slots to do it and so have to prioritise. It is ashame that as LHR has become more and more congested, UK regional links to it have been the first to suffer, while any arguments against a 3rd runway are based around cutting them out even more.
That's entirely subjective. BA is widely considered the best airline in Europe in premium classes, and T5 is outstanding, IMO much better than FRA, AMS or CDG.
Interesting. So are BMI, flyBe, easyJet, Ryanair, Jet2 all regional travel charities ?
flyBe, easyJet, Ryanair and Jet2 are all lowcost airlines with a completely different business model to BA. These sort of business models work in the regions, BA's doesn't.
Not to mention KLM who are happy to connect passengers to their hub from a much wider variety of airports in the UK than BA.
often with a much better end-to-end pax experience than BA - and that includes the low-cost carriers
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However, even with all these +ve points is BA about to crash out of the FTSE 100??? A glance at the Sunday Telegraph shows its market capitalisation to be 1908M sterling the lowest of any company in the table. Today it has currently dropped another 10%, to about 150.
I know we live in difficult times everywhere, but I have noticed a recent downward trend.
It's got to find large chunks of money to refund its pension schemes, it had terrible traffic figures in Sept, its fuel bill is getting better, but at what number was it hedged at,?? and thousands of bankers etc are likely to lose their jobs soon. Anyone in the know have any other comments.??
I know we live in difficult times everywhere, but I have noticed a recent downward trend.
It's got to find large chunks of money to refund its pension schemes, it had terrible traffic figures in Sept, its fuel bill is getting better, but at what number was it hedged at,?? and thousands of bankers etc are likely to lose their jobs soon. Anyone in the know have any other comments.??
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... all smoke and mirrors...
BA dont want to be in the UK regions, as they cannot compete. Too many 'options' for the traveller now. LHR isnt the 'be all and end all' as it once was. Deregulation, vastly improved transport links from other London / South East airports to central London and the array of other carriers especially on domestic routes has really changed the landscape and BAs once dominance.
They have a stake in flybe. Would not be surprised in the least if BA ended up giving GLA/EDI - LGW to flybe (obviously with strings attached). Do you really think BA will replace the B737 fleet at LGW like for like with Airbus? No way...
With the summer 09 timetable suggesting further cuts between Scotland and both LHR and LGW, who knows what will happen...
Good old London Airways
- NOT!
BA dont want to be in the UK regions, as they cannot compete. Too many 'options' for the traveller now. LHR isnt the 'be all and end all' as it once was. Deregulation, vastly improved transport links from other London / South East airports to central London and the array of other carriers especially on domestic routes has really changed the landscape and BAs once dominance.
They have a stake in flybe. Would not be surprised in the least if BA ended up giving GLA/EDI - LGW to flybe (obviously with strings attached). Do you really think BA will replace the B737 fleet at LGW like for like with Airbus? No way...
With the summer 09 timetable suggesting further cuts between Scotland and both LHR and LGW, who knows what will happen...
Good old London Airways
- NOT!
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Do you really think BA will replace the B737 fleet at LGW like for like with Airbus? No way...
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BA CANT, COULDNT AFFORD TO, and WONT replace the 737s like-for-like with Airbus. There is NO money to do such a thing, and LGW isnt such a priority for BA. LHR is where the money is being spent and invested. Longhaul and some big greenhouse called T5...
For sure, there will be a batch of Airbus sent over, but certainly not 50 odds.
LGW domestic services are being maulled although certain European routes are holding their own.
BA CANT, COULDNT AFFORD TO, and WONT replace the 737s like-for-like with Airbus. There is NO money to do such a thing, and LGW isnt such a priority for BA. LHR is where the money is being spent and invested. Longhaul and some big greenhouse called T5...
For sure, there will be a batch of Airbus sent over, but certainly not 50 odds.
LGW domestic services are being maulled although certain European routes are holding their own.
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Another top tip...you already have you seats, DONT rush to board, stay in the lounge/gate area until they are calling for you. As this is when adhoc upgrades are given. And Im sure you know if you dress smart are polite to checkin..they will note that in the system that you are an SFU (Suitable for upgrade)!! Gook Luck BG
In rare cases if you dress well, are very nice at cin and get lucky the agent may put SFU in your booking which, if youre lucky may get you an upgrade but this will be done at closure no "ad-hoc" at the gate.