British Airways - 2

[TURIN]

Aviance don't handle anything at LGW anymore and anyway FlyBe are mishandled by Servisair. Which station are you being scurrilous about? Tut tut

Oops, blinkers on both of us there, I was referring to MAN.

[scotsunflyer]

0625 EDI/LHR also been axed for the summer. First flight from EDI will now depart at 0745

[MOLWillie]

That ad of enerjets at the bottom is goofy.
A '37-700 with a 4 wheel bogie........bigfoot on the climb-out

[MOLWillie]

Source: Air Transport World
System Traffic Jan - Sept 2008

1. American 163,094,021
2. AFKLM 160,511,000
3. Delta 151,922,648
4. United 137,478,386
5. Continental 103,391,138
6. Lufthansa 96,422,000
7. Southwest 90,471,056
8. Northwest 89,039,181
9. British Air 83,242,000

[MOLWillie]

Oopsie, I should have noted that the figs. in the previous post were RPKs.

[Seljuk22]

Some routes news for the summer. Hope they're right and complete.

suspension:
LHR: Dhaka, Kolkata
LGW: DUB, ZRH, GVA

reductions:
LHR: BRU (7 to 6 Daily), EDI (11 to 10 Daily), CDG (10 to 9 Daily), Tokyo (2 to 1 Daily)
LGW: EDI (6 to 4 Daily), MAN (6 to 5 Daily)
London - Toulouse (3 to 2 Daily; switch from Gatwick to Heathrow)

increases:
LHR: DXB 21x weekly,
LGW: AYT (3 to 5 weekly; 09JUN09 - 27SEP09), BCN (2 to 3 Daily; 13JUN09 - 27SEP09), DBV (7* to 11 weekly), FAO (2 to 3 Daily; 13JUN09 - 27SEP09), Izmir (3 to 5 weekly; 13JUN09 - 26SEP09), Pristina (3 to 4 weekly), Rome (2 to 3 Daily), Tirana (5 to 7 weekly), Tunis (5 to 7 weekly), (2 to 4 weekly)

AMS-JFK (5 to 7 weekly)

changes:
LGW-PMI to depart at 1735hrs in S09 iso 2225hrs in S08

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[Seat62K]

For comparison, RPKs ten years ago (1998, full year):

1. United 201,715
2. American 180,144
3. Delta 168,596
4. Northwest 119,337
5. British Airways 112,029
6. Continental 96,580
7. Lufthansa 81,401
8. US Airways 66,738
9. Singapore 64,528
10. Southwest 58,695
(RPKs in millions)

It is sad to see the relative decline of BA. Notice that neither KLM nor Air France was in the top ten! In my opinion, years of poor managerial decisions, allied to a lack of long-term vision in relation to infrastructure investment, have contributed to this state of affairs.
If this trend continues - and the evidence is that is will - BA will a much less significant player in another ten years' time. That would be a pity.

[Guest 112233]

Who's at No 7 then - In ten years time It will be LH for LH from LHR.

[Seat62K]

Yes, as others have said, BA has exhibited a "fortress Heathrow" mentality (selling Go, for example, destroyed an excellent opportunity for BA to have a significant presence in the growing low-cost sector and one at Stansted; the airline which eventually acquired Go, easyJet, now has a very large Gatwick operation) and in future Lufthansa will have access to bmi's LHR slots. There's nowhere else for BA to retreat to....
As for the merger with Iberia. I've only ever experienced poor customer service standards from this airline. Iberia is more of an "employees' holiday club" than BA or its predecessor airlines ever were. I get the impression that talks on this might not be going well; it might be good for BA if the merger does not go ahead.

[747-436]

As far as I have heard they are just being parked up for the winter. Not being sold on just yet.

[Currock Base]

BA internal message with first six month's results said they were being parked and explictly said not sold and not going for scrap.

CB

[muckin fuddle]

BA could sell them to Virgin to support the LGW / MAN fleet - they need it !

[mathers_wales_uk]

Hopefully those aircraft will be gone before the RBS Six Nations if they are being parked up for winter or there will be less capacity available compared to previous years.

ECHO and BAMC are usually used during uplifts. plus limited space for diversions during the winter as they are parked up on BAMC.

[4567]

Think BA would be allowed to go over the 50% mark of holding landing slots at Heathrow shoul BMI put some of theirs up for sale? Truely would be fortress Heathrow and secure BA as London Airways!

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[Ex Cargo Clown]

Does anyone know when BA will decide on cancellations over the Christmas period.

Just undecided over whether the TLS-LGW will operate on the 1st Jan.

[BAladdy]

Christmas cancellations have already been made so timetable is accurate.

To add to Seljuk22's list BA are also increasing frequencies ex LHR into europe these are

From 29th March 09

LHR/PRG ( 3 to 4 daily), LHR/BUD ( 3 to 4 daily), LHR/LIS ( 3 to 4 daily), LHR/FCO ( 5 to 6 daily), LHR/NCE ( 6 to 7 daily), LHR/ATH( 22 x weekly to 29 x weekly).

LHR/JNB ( 14 x weekly to 19 x weekly from May)

LGW/AGP ( 2 to 3 daily from 13th June)

Was very suprised to see no increase on the PFO service which has gone from strength to strength and has been carrying a very good club load year round.

[Ex Cargo Clown]

Thank you..

[Seljuk22]

From 2nd January BA will add another 5 weekly services to DXB and bring the total number of flights LHR-DXB to 26 a week.

EK will also increase capacity: EK001/002 from 1st December and temporary EK 003/004 from 2nd until 31st January will operate with A380.

[apaddyinuk]

Alas despite being shot down for merely mentioning the rumour a few months ago it would appear I was right...needless to say I am not exactly thrilled about the idea of operating to the KSA but at the same time it just goes to show that some rumours are accurate!

BA are returning to the KSA with 4 weekly flights to Riyadh on a 4 class 777 and Jeddah with 4 weekly flights on a 3 class 767. There will be no shuttling so the crew will be slipping in both destinations.

[HZ123]

I assume that the punters to fill these extra services will be coming from where exactly? Fine for Saudi which was always an earner and will do very well.