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Old 31st Jan 2008, 15:39
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Will that be one Euro plus 39 Euros taxes and charges?
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Old 31st Jan 2008, 18:33
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Brilliant. Thanks for cheering me up after such a s*** day.
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I quote from the Ryanair News section (at 19:30 on 31/01/2008)....

Ryanair’s lawyers will also make a similar offer to Ms Bruni, offering damages of €1 and a contribution of €5,000 to any charity of Mr Bruni’s choice. Ryanair will not however agree to any totally unjustified payment of €500,000 to Ms Bruni, who has engaged in an open, widely publicised and internationally reported relationship with President Sarkozy.

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So what has this Mr Bruni got to do with it all? Is this an ex-husband, brother or father of Ms Bruni?

Maybe it's another "Ryanair Typo", just like leaving off the world "from" when they advertise their fares!

Anyway, €10,002.00 is hardly a large amount considering all the secondary publicity this has given Ryanair. I think a donation of nearer €50,000 would be nearer the mark (excluding "optional" legal fees, french VAT, taxes, etc).
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Ryanair and Marmite

My daughter flew to Germany from Stansted yesterday with Ryanair.

Her hand luggage was searched at Stansted and a small jar of Marmite confiscated on the basis that it was a "liquid".

Anyone else consider Marmite to be a liquid? The jar I have shows the product to be a thick paste.

(For those outside the UK "Marmite" is a long-established vegetarian food spead made from yeast products.It is dark brown and very thick.)

When airline security confiscates something from a passenger, what happens to that confiscated item?

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Surely her bag was searched by AIRPORT security? In which case, Ryanair would not be involved.
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Old 3rd Feb 2008, 01:36
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February announcements

I read on another forum that Ryanair will announce an additional aircraft and 5 new routes for Charleroi in February.

Anyone any info?
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Ryanair and Marmite

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My daughter flew to Germany from Stansted yesterday with Ryanair.

Her hand luggage was searched at Stansted and a small jar of Marmite confiscated on the basis that it was a "liquid".

Anyone else consider Marmite to be a liquid? The jar I have shows the product to be a thick paste.

(For those outside the UK "Marmite" is a long-established vegetarian food spead made from yeast products.It is dark brown and very thick.)

When airline security confiscates something from a passenger, what happens to that confiscated item?

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I don't think that had anything to do with the airline, that would be airprort security. Personally I would not consider it to be a liquid but the regulations ( http://www.dft.gov.uk/transportforyo...y/requirements )also say paste up to 100ml (100g) only....
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EGCA

The item was "voluntarily abbandoned" at BAA Security. (Its voluntary, as in you don't have to give it up, but if you choose not to, the airport chooses to not allow you to enter the Restricted Zone)

UK Government regs prohibit liquids, creams and gels - basically anything runny, gooie or sticky, unless in a container less than 100ml.

These items are all destroyed.
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Old 4th Feb 2008, 06:29
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Ryanair reporting Q3 profits down 27% to 35m euros. Traffic growth up 21%. Load Factor for Jan 08 down 2% to 69%.
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Ryanair profit warning . " Aircraft disposals "

Ryanair warns of perfect storm



Shares in Ryanair crashed 13.5% in early morning trade in Dublin after it reported a 27% drop in third quarter net profits. The airline warned that poor market conditions meant profits may fall in its next fiscal year.
Ryanair said its underlying net profit in the three months to end December fell by 27% to €35m from €48m the same time the previous year as average winter fares fell almost 5%.


The net profit figure excludes a one-off gain of €12.1m from the sale of five Boeing 737-800 aircraft.


With oil prices at $90 a barrel and fear of recession in the UK and many other European economies, the current outlook for the coming fiscal year is poor,' Ryanair said. 'There is now a significant chance that profits may decline next year,' it added. Ryanair said its passenger traffic grew by 21% to 12.4 million in the three month period, while revenues rose by 15% to €569m. Yields fell by 4%. The airline's ancillary revenues grew by 30%

Ancillary penetration continues to increase, and we are on target to achieve our ancillary sales objective of 20% of revenues over the next three years,' commented Ryanair's CEO Michael O'Leary. Ryanair repeated its guidance of net profit growth of 17.5% to approximately €470m for the full fiscal year 2007-2008.
'At this time it is too early to make any accurate forecasts in such volatile markets for 2008/2009,' Mr O'Leary said. 'However, with oil prices at $90 a barrel and fears of recession in the UK and many other European economies, the current outlook for the year is poor'.
He said that the airline remains essentially unhedged for next year. The airline's CEO says that current oil prices will impose significantly higher costs during a year when it expands capacity by almost 20%.
The airline's earnings may also be impacted by the recent weakness of sterling, which accounts for a significant proportion of Ryanair's revenues,' Mr O'Leary stated.
'The European airline sector is presently facing one of these cyclical downturns, with the possibility of a 'perfect storm' of higher oil prices, poor consumer demand, weaker sterling and higher costs at unchecked monopoly airports,' the Ryanair boss said.
'While it is impossible to accurately forecast full year fuel prices and yields this far in advance, there is now a significant chance that profits may decline next year,' Mr O'Leary cautioned.
'At our most optimistic, a combination of flat yields and $75 oil would see profits grow by 6% to approximately €500m, but at our most conservative, if forward oil prices remain at $85, and consumer sentiment/sterling weakness leads to a 5% reduction in yields, then profits in the coming year could fall by as much as 50% to as low as €235m (excluding profits from aircraft disposals),' Mr O'Leary predicted.
He said the airline hopes to provide a more informed update on guidance with the release of full year results in June.
Ryanair also said it planned to spend up to €200m buying back shares which, based on its current share price, would equate to 3% of the company's share capital.
Shares in the airline were down 48 cent to €3.11 in Dublin early this morning - a fall of 13.5%.


When he talks about disposals, does he mean further to the five 738´s he had already sold ?
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Old 4th Feb 2008, 08:59
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Its my understanding that a further 20 aircraft are to be sold this year, all going to China. The fleet however is still expanding rapidly with a continual flow of new aircraft arriving from Seattle.
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Old 4th Feb 2008, 09:12
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I hope this airline never goes bankrupt because believe me that would be a big mess, there is no way anybody will stick together when things start going wrong for Ryanair.

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Old 4th Feb 2008, 09:12
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How the markets are reacting?
Shares in Ryanair fell 13pc in early trading, down at €3.13 as Dublin-based Goodbody Stockbrokers said that the statement "rang alarm bells".

"With oil prices at $90 a barrel and fear of recession in the UK and many other European economies, the current outlook for the coming fiscal year is poor," said Mr O'Leary.

"The European airline sector is presently facing one of these cyclical downturns, with possibility of a perfect storm of higher oil prices, poor consumer demand, weaker sterling and higher costs at unchecked monopoly airports," he added.
Weaker sterling? Poor demand? So why you keep adding UK bases like Bournemouth for instance? Why do you want to dominate the UK and the Republic of Ireland markets and by doing so only lowering the yields there? Just try to have a bit broader look. You could find many places in Europe where the markets are much less saturated than there. The market I know the best is a Finnish one. You have one great advantage in Finland: you are the only one low-cost carrier that counts here. Did you take profits having such a profitable position? Not at all. In spite of excellent LF's in Germany you just... reduced some flights. There you have millions of people looking for ANY amount of sun to warm them a bit during pretty harsh winters. How many destinations did you provide them in the Southern Italy, France or Spain? Not a SINGLE one. There are millions of Russians in St. Petersburg near the Finnish border. Did you use the opportunity? Not at all. And these are only examples from Finland. You'll find more such opportunities in other countries as well. But you prefer to keep fighting your dominance war in the British Isles. Just continue, maybe you'll win. But, as they say, the alarm bells are ringing. Quite loudly right now.
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Who the hell said anything about them going bankrupt?!
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Old 4th Feb 2008, 09:41
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Nobody said it will happen, you may breathe again!

I was just stating that in the case it should happen it would be very quick since nobody would stick together. That's all.


And by they way do you remember how tha Titanic would never sink...
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Old 4th Feb 2008, 09:42
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Must be that time of year again...

Round about the end of January for the last x years, Ryanair have started to sound like the town crier in Pompeii.

Usually something along the lines of "bloodbath for the low costs, they must merge or fail", "fuel prices ghastly, we won't even break even" with an added dash of "dreadful economic outlook ahead".

The shares take a temporary hit. Then, year after year, Ryanair comes in with numbers ahead of market expectations. Share price goes up again....

As for their results - add back in the profit from the disposal of the 738s they sold last quarter, and hey presto, back on the mark.

Must make you pots if you are a shareholder....

Or am I a cynic?

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Old 4th Feb 2008, 10:25
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How come he's all doom and gloom. The share prices fall. He then says they are going to buy a load back. Presumably at the new bargain price.
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The net profit figure excludes a one-off gain of €12.1m from the sale of five Boeing 737-800 aircraft.
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That must be a misprint. What he do...... sell them without engines?
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Old 4th Feb 2008, 10:41
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No misprint. The gain will be the difference between what he paid for them (or their book value) and what he sold them for.

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thanks for that
you can see i am not an accoutant
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