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100,000 pax in one month matters a lot to any airline, even one as big as Ryanair. Going from selling 4.5m seat to "selling" 4.7m seat has been done by dumping 9 million seats on to the market at between 1 and 9 euros for March, Apil & May. So many of the seats for march 09 were sold below cost that many may have been bougth but not used. It is very possible that less people were on board this year than last.
In the last 3 month of 2008 the pax rose 13% but the total income rose only 3%. In the first 3 month of 2009 the pax rose about 7.5% and we will know total income in June. The point has come were the airlines imcome starts to fall each quarter. Selling 1 euro seats just makes the traffic numbers look good but when done too much kills the airlines income. It is time to start asking of this will be an ex-airline in a few years time.
In the last 3 month of 2008 the pax rose 13% but the total income rose only 3%. In the first 3 month of 2009 the pax rose about 7.5% and we will know total income in June. The point has come were the airlines imcome starts to fall each quarter. Selling 1 euro seats just makes the traffic numbers look good but when done too much kills the airlines income. It is time to start asking of this will be an ex-airline in a few years time.
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It still amazes me when people make comments of saying Ryanair might not be here in a few years time.
Ryanair is not just an airline - yes this is a core part of the business, but it is a brand. Income comes in from advertising to hotels, credit cards to travel insurance to home insurance to anything-else-you-want (well not quite, but you get what I mean). How are these products sold - through Ryanair.com. How do you get people to the site - LOW FARES and high publicity.
What Ryanair loses in revenue from seats it will be making up elsewhere through deals and other ventures realted to the Ryanair brand.
Narrow-sighted professionals still see this as an industry back when airlines could charge high fares attract passengers and get away with it - now im afraid, the travelling public are not so stupid, so airlines like Ryanair and easyJet will survive as they continue to diversify and offer cheap, affordable travel with consistent performance.
Ryanair is not just an airline - yes this is a core part of the business, but it is a brand. Income comes in from advertising to hotels, credit cards to travel insurance to home insurance to anything-else-you-want (well not quite, but you get what I mean). How are these products sold - through Ryanair.com. How do you get people to the site - LOW FARES and high publicity.
What Ryanair loses in revenue from seats it will be making up elsewhere through deals and other ventures realted to the Ryanair brand.
Narrow-sighted professionals still see this as an industry back when airlines could charge high fares attract passengers and get away with it - now im afraid, the travelling public are not so stupid, so airlines like Ryanair and easyJet will survive as they continue to diversify and offer cheap, affordable travel with consistent performance.
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Rumour has it they lost the court case last week against the Irish goverment about the Knock PSO route, I wonder how much of the share holders money was wasted on this. As they had not even bid for the route!
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Rumour has it they lost the court case last week against the Irish goverment about the Knock PSO route, I wonder how much of the share holders money was wasted on is. as they had not even bid for the route!
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Narrow-sighted professionals still see this as an industry back when airlines could charge high fares attract passengers and get away with it - now im afraid, the travelling public are not so stupid, so airlines like Ryanair and easyJet will survive as they continue to diversify and offer cheap, affordable travel with consistent performance.
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Originally Posted by liffy2A
Rumour has it they lost the court case last week against the Irish goverment about the Knock PSO route
Originally Posted by en2r
I was amused to see them advertising recently in the Irish Independent for a head of Legal affairs. Presumably since they now take so many legal cases (seems to be a new one every week!) that it is cheaper to hire someone to take all the cases instead of hiring barristers for each case.
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Ad for Head of Legal Affairs in Sunday Times today too, a full quarter page in the Appointments section. Someone in for a boll***ing tomorow though, by my calendar today is Sunday April 5, the ad gives the closing date as Friday April 3rd.
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hi wHAT THE STORY WITH THE BRISTOL & STANSTED FLIGHTS TODAY. STANSTED 807 IN ONTIME AND WENT OUT TO BRISTOL ARR 1950 APPROX. BRISTOL IN AT 2120 AND OUT TO STANSTED. PASSAGERS FUMING WITH ALL THE DELAYS IN FROM ONE AIRPORT AND OUT TO ANOTHER.
PS GOOD LUCK TOMORROW ON AIRLINGUS ROUTE LGW GLAD TO SEE IT BACK.
PS GOOD LUCK TOMORROW ON AIRLINGUS ROUTE LGW GLAD TO SEE IT BACK.
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Ryanair is not just an airline - yes this is a core part of the business, but it is a brand
The unthinkable is already happening in banking with big names going under. What will happen when Ryanair cannot pay for the next wave of new planes in a few years time?
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Ballsout, Think you might be wrong on that one.
Also a rumour on "Politics.ie" under 'Transport' suggesting they may need a new ceo soon.
Apologies, dont know how to set up a link
Also a rumour on "Politics.ie" under 'Transport' suggesting they may need a new ceo soon.
Apologies, dont know how to set up a link
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Ryanair is not insolvent. The big banks were not insolvent a year ago. They made massive profits and paid dividends. It was unthinkable that they would be broke within a few months.
Even selling millions of seats below cost is not increasing ryanairs income. Growth is over but a wave of planes is ordered for each of the next few years. Ryanair have a real problem with keeping it income and its offers to get new pax are just being used by existing ones to fly cheaper. It is starting to get thinkable that they will go under in 3 to 5 years time.
Even selling millions of seats below cost is not increasing ryanairs income. Growth is over but a wave of planes is ordered for each of the next few years. Ryanair have a real problem with keeping it income and its offers to get new pax are just being used by existing ones to fly cheaper. It is starting to get thinkable that they will go under in 3 to 5 years time.
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New routes from NRN to be announced tomorrow (from the web checkin)
Almeria 2x --3---7
Beziers 2x --3---7
Bratislava 3x -2-4-6-
Ibiza 3x -2-4-6-
Krakow 3x -2-4-6-
Lamezia 2x 1---5--
Turin 2x --3---7
Valladolid 2x 1---5--
Zadar 2x 1---5--
Almeria 2x --3---7
Beziers 2x --3---7
Bratislava 3x -2-4-6-
Ibiza 3x -2-4-6-
Krakow 3x -2-4-6-
Lamezia 2x 1---5--
Turin 2x --3---7
Valladolid 2x 1---5--
Zadar 2x 1---5--
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Don't think you will find them complaining too loudly ? after the other guys with the (3 ? ) A320`s stopped operating, there was sweet FA except RYR. Same situation today ? no RYR = no flights, so what do you expect them to do, ask RYR to go away as it is not sustainable ?
An airports revenue is also earned from many other sources, ( cafe's, parking etc etc ) not just the handling fees that RYR probably don't pay.
An airports revenue is also earned from many other sources, ( cafe's, parking etc etc ) not just the handling fees that RYR probably don't pay.
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NRN... Another airport getting dominated by Ryanair... In the end I doubt if this is really sustainable for this airport, 95% of all flights operated by FR...
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Curious that you quote the airport is 95% dominated by Ryanair, what do you suggest the airport turns the business away and have nothing.
Whilst many, including myself, are not massive Ryanair fans you have to admit that that in this case there may be no airport without Ryanair as obviously not many other airlines are interested in operating from there.
Whilst many, including myself, are not massive Ryanair fans you have to admit that that in this case there may be no airport without Ryanair as obviously not many other airlines are interested in operating from there.
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Regarding RYR domination at an airport: I heard there were some vigerous negotiations going on at HHN recently. HHN does not seem to be expanding as RYR once planned. Indeed I hear rumours of a reduction of a/c. Does anyone have the knowledgeable inside story of the present and the future at HHN?
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Does that 95% include the new Hamburg International based charter aircraft? Obviously NRN is FR dominated, but 95% seems a bit on the high side