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Old 1st Oct 2007, 05:52
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So how many 767-200's can you park in one go on the south stands?
Using a ruler on my PDF stand chart I would say 3 x 767’s or 4 x 737’s even though it is marked out for 5 stands. The south stands seem to be no wider than the eastern apron although it is a little offset to the west. There seems to be a little room to make it wider at its eastern end so it lines up with the eastern apron but whether that could create another stand I am not sure.
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More Ryanair?

I gather that the airline can base more aircraft at Luton but they have to pay the going rate as they got a deal with the airport to base four aircraft there. Also you will notice that on certain days in November and early December some of their flights do not operate to Nimes, etc. guessing that this is due to the 900 hour flight deck rule. I suppose they will come up with some other excuse!
I would think the airport authorities are reasonably happy at the moment with the number of new services being operated this winter but they must not rest on their laurels.
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Old 1st Oct 2007, 08:30
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A couple of years ago, MOL was reported in saying that he would like to see 7/8 based aircraft at LTN but doubted it would go much higher. Since then, many things have changed, and as Buster previously stated, the airport is not keen to offer big incentives to the likes of ryanair. Maybe a fifth aircraft but I doubt it. Having said that two additional based easyjet's are rumoured for LTN during 2008. Again, may or may not happen, but a lot more likely that 2 ryans.
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Old 1st Oct 2007, 11:31
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I thought you chaps (& chapesses?) might like a real-world report of our annual family trek through LTN. The family has been using the airport since 1961 when some of us took the Derby Airways DC3 to Guernsey!

Arrived by taxi at 0500 for the Monday MON flight to Mahon. Amazing to be stuck in a slow-moving traffic jam at this time, but I guess it must be like this most mornings now.

Checked in right away, first in the queue. Took about 4 minutes to check in four of us. Well done Monarch.

Despite hundreds of pax passing through security for dozens of departures, the whole process only took about 10 minutes in total. No hassle at all.

Plenty of choice for a caffeine shot before going to the gate. Friendly quick service, very acceptable coffee and food.

Only a short wait at the gate, boarded and departed on time.

The return MON flight 2 weeks later was equally pleasant. MON really do have a superior prodect, I rate them much better than BA in all departments including the food (not forgetting the good looking gals who actually smile!)

Arrived on time at LTN despite a very convoluted arrival procedure (I think we went all the way to Barkway and back, plus a lot of radar vectoring on to the ILS), taxied right to stand and deplaned promptly.

The only problem on arrival was the very long queue for immigration control, slowly shuffling along. Several other flights had arrived around the same time (about 1300), and pax were pushing in to the queue from the opposite direction, which caused a few angry remarks from people whom had already been queuing for some time. I relaise that 1200 to 1330 is a peak arrival period, but this rather shambolic arrangement needs looking in to.

Baggage arrived promptly, and we were in our taxi on the way home about 30 minutes after arrival. Pity about the grotty pavement area immediately outside the terminal. Can't the airport owners (after all they're Spanish) copy some of the beautiful airports in Spain and put down some decent paving?

Not a bad experience by any means, 8/10 for the overall experience I would say.
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Old 1st Oct 2007, 18:51
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Thomson consolidation

Looks like the Jersey and Prague services from Luton are going to cease in November followed by Marrakech in January. The consolidation of the First Choice/Thomson Fly fleet seems to be gathering pace. All non-core schedules are said to be under threat, which means that destinations which do not take Thomson/First Choice customers could well be axed. Coventry and Bournemouth must be very worried. Regarding the Luton flights only Jersey seems to be the one which will have no operator – I wonder if Flybe will poick up the cudgel in the spring?
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Old 1st Oct 2007, 20:58
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Shame about Jersey. This is a route that seems to come and go over the years. Thomsom however, seem to have generated a sizeable market from Luton, carrying some 6500 pax a month to/from the island, throughout the summer months. With Flybe picking up the IOM, maybe they might come back on the JER, again!!

Prague will actually increase, with SkyEurope offering a daily schedule, as opposed to Thomsons original 4 x weekly.

RAK is served by ryanair, 4 x weekly, but strangely enough, it is still bookable with Thomsonfly in OCT 08. Sure this will be deleted soon though.
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Old 3rd Oct 2007, 13:57
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Immigration at LTN is a joke. It's even worse at night when you have less officers and you might get 5 planes down at the same time.
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Old 3rd Oct 2007, 14:18
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Grrr

I think you will find that immigration at the other London airports at key times is just as bad?
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Old 3rd Oct 2007, 15:03
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Isn't it about time the travelling public rebelled against which ever government department is responsable for manning levels at Passport Control at all our airports

Although I know American airports are just as bad, if not worse through out the rest of Europe you always seem to sail through passport control what ever the time of day.

Perhaps the airports could join together and start a advertising campaign, pointing out it's not their fault for the long queues, and telling people to write to their MP's to pull their fingers out and SORT IT
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Old 3rd Oct 2007, 17:40
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Nimes

Compton3Bravo, nothing to do with LTN myself but the airport at NIMES is closed from 15th October for over a month due to runway resurfacing - nothing to do with Ryanair, sorry to disappoint.
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Old 3rd Oct 2007, 19:12
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Grrr

This should make Luton Relic a bit nostalgic!

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...2006_00006.jpg
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Old 3rd Oct 2007, 20:46
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Aaaah,

Sunday afternoons, about 1969, the Channel Trident - highlight of the week!
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Old 3rd Oct 2007, 23:23
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it was 1969 - a regular PMI rotation ex LTN, thouh I thought that was Saturday. A/c postioned in before and out afterward!

Not a great performer the Trident 1E- used most of LTN's runway on departure and the real thrill, deployed thrust reverser before landing.

Can't imagine an A319/320 doing that today!
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Old 4th Oct 2007, 19:41
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Grrr

Mr Relic is probably still shaking with excitement!

I understand that the entire Thomsonfly UK operation is being reviewed following the merger, both charter and Lo-co operations, thus Jersey is probably axed. This according to my sauce, is as a result of outstation restructuring. I guess the Jersey was flown via a 'W' from elsewhere?
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Old 4th Oct 2007, 19:45
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The Jer rotation is currently flown on a W with a DSA airframe and i belive it was going to be a CVT airframe for the W07 season but not anymore!

The PRG was going to be a DSA airframe for W07 but thats gone aswell!!
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Old 4th Oct 2007, 21:02
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So what are TOM's plans for W07; 1/2 B757s like the old days- and three frames totally taken up with what we would have called ITC work, to replace the FCA aircraft.


looking at the TCX thread and what I'm reading here TOM and TCX seem to be retrenching into thier shells- is extniction a risk. There's been no growth in the All in holiday market market for a very long time.
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I think it's 1 x 757 & 1 x 738.
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Old 4th Oct 2007, 22:38
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Arrived at luton at 2310 last monday and waited 40 minutes to get through passport control. Stansted is even worse as there are more planes to get down in the evening. Must be in the order of 50 between 2000 and 2359. Queues frequently go back all the way up sat 3!
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Old 5th Oct 2007, 02:52
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So how many 767-200's can you park in one go on the south stands?...Using a ruler on my PDF stand chart I would say 3 x 767’s or 4 x 737’s
The South Apron is due to be re-vamped with an additional stand (= a total of 6) being constructed on its eastern side, the aim being to create x4 B767 or x5 B737 stands (the latter probably not x5 B737s with winglets).
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Old 5th Oct 2007, 17:09
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Galway to Luton

Aer Arann to fly GWY-LTN three times daily from 15/10.

http://www.businessworld.ie/bworld/l....htm?a=1857979
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