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Mr Bust indeed and it survived on for a few year after you. A date for your diary May 12th 2013 just in case we go again to Wembley!
Looks like biz jet numbers will be good especially in the lead up to the opening ceremony.
Champions League final at Wembley next season, biz jet overload!
Looks like biz jet numbers will be good especially in the lead up to the opening ceremony.
Champions League final at Wembley next season, biz jet overload!
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The Redcoat is already on the dump. I think that may be a Cuban Britannia that was at MAEL for maintenance. That would probably make the year 1984.
Won't be 1984.....The first part of the "new" H61 built for the BY B767's is still well under construction. The first 767 arrived in Feb 1984 (so 1983 is probably on the money)
Won't be 1984.....The first part of the "new" H61 built for the BY B767's is still well under construction. The first 767 arrived in Feb 1984 (so 1983 is probably on the money)
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I have heard that Signature will be moving to somewhere close to the cargo apron thus joining Harrods and Ocean Sky on the north side of the airport.
There's been a rumour going around for a while that the airport want S16 (The Pond) back as obviously a few airliner stands could be crammed in there! Perhaps this is whats happening?
There's been a rumour going around for a while that the airport want S16 (The Pond) back as obviously a few airliner stands could be crammed in there! Perhaps this is whats happening?
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Haven't Signature just spent a hell of alot of money swapping hangers with Gulfsteam? Where could they accommodate 30+ biz jets (and more if they had the space as they turn business away) down by cargo?
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Just my thoughts based on nothing. Probably just their terminal that would move which would release stands 16 and 17. The North West corner apron fronting Gulfstream and the small apron in front of their hangars would stay thus splitting their operation between two sites.
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New drop off area?
A Picture speaks a thousand words.
It looks like the drop off area is being moved again. I have lost count how many times it has been tinkered with. This time it is being swung 90 degrees and is a little further away from the terminal. Is this the first phase of the redevelopment which includes duelling of the approach road through the tunnel and a new central area? I guess this bit does not require planning permission.
This is different again from what the airport has just published in their master plan, as they have the drop off area inside the short term carpark so this might be just temporary to allow new roads to cross the existing drop off area. It does pose the question though why spend this money if they might lose the franchise?
It looks like the drop off area is being moved again. I have lost count how many times it has been tinkered with. This time it is being swung 90 degrees and is a little further away from the terminal. Is this the first phase of the redevelopment which includes duelling of the approach road through the tunnel and a new central area? I guess this bit does not require planning permission.
This is different again from what the airport has just published in their master plan, as they have the drop off area inside the short term carpark so this might be just temporary to allow new roads to cross the existing drop off area. It does pose the question though why spend this money if they might lose the franchise?
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Quote from Luton Airports mastplan document
Wonder what happened to the 1.5 million extra passengers Ryanair proposed?
The new departure hall opened in July 2005 in
response to a new and significant proposal by Ryanair to
add an additional 1.5 million passengers.
response to a new and significant proposal by Ryanair to
add an additional 1.5 million passengers.
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As their fleet will remain at slightly over 300 airframes, they can wait for whoever is offering the best incentives and then move elements of the fleet. When they park up airframes over the winter, the crews on 'contracts' don't fly, so do not get paid, thus saving them even more.
Possibly a stupid question but how many more 737 sized airframes could be accommodated at Luton overnight in July with initial departures around 6 am or 7 am (along with the rest of the morning rush), not just for ramp space but also passenger security screening capacity of the terminal ? Am guessing that this is a major constraint on the likelihood of Ryanair basing more aircraft at Luton for the time being, or at least until the builders start doing major work.
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I see this summer Ryanair have increased slightly the number of aircraft doing W patterns from other bases i.e. Gerona, Kaunas which arrive at less busy times. I would have thought that if they were to increase flights at Luton this is where the extra capacity might come from but of course it all depends on price as someone has already said earlier.
Also Monarch now seem to have four aircraft based instead of five last summer so there is one more overnight stand available I would suggest maybe Wizz might take that one.
Also Monarch now seem to have four aircraft based instead of five last summer so there is one more overnight stand available I would suggest maybe Wizz might take that one.
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Quote "will BHX gain"
BHX has plenty of spare stands, Baby disappearing and Ryanair have said..........nothing. The base has been 4 for years and winter 3 plus the parked ones.
Seems a far cry from the 5 million pax pa stated.
Birmingham Becomes Ryanair's 25th Base
I am sure another quote mentioned ten aircraft although I suppose you could say they have followed through with that promise in winter and there was nothing in the article saying they would fly and have pax
Pete
Quote "will BHX gain"
BHX has plenty of spare stands, Baby disappearing and Ryanair have said..........nothing. The base has been 4 for years and winter 3 plus the parked ones.
Seems a far cry from the 5 million pax pa stated.
Birmingham Becomes Ryanair's 25th Base
I am sure another quote mentioned ten aircraft although I suppose you could say they have followed through with that promise in winter and there was nothing in the article saying they would fly and have pax
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Possibly a stupid question but how many more 737 sized airframes could be accommodated at Luton overnight in July with initial departures around 6 am or 7 am (along with the rest of the morning rush), not just for ramp space but also passenger security screening capacity of the terminal ?
That aircraft operates to Split and Debrecon, departing at around 6am every morning to one of these two destinations which operate alternate days. Debrecon is a new destination and unfortunately dropped Dubrovnik, which they previously operated, in it's place.
There probably is space at the airport to add 3-4 additional aircraft, to be based and parked up over night...
The airport is currently back up to passenger numbers of around 2005 and 2006, Back then charter traffic at the airport was healthier, with the likes of Thomson basing around four aircraft at the airport during peak season and the likes of First Choice and Thomas Cook/MyTravel (whatever they were called back then) each basing an A320 during the summer months. Also in that time, the likes of easyJet and Ryanair have tweaked schedules and routes, but their aircraft numbers have remained pretty much static at LTN,
Wizzair has plugged a lot of the gap in the terms of bringing passenger numbers back up to where they are now, but other than their lonesome A320 during the summer months, they base no other aircraft here.
At the present time, Im not sure the airport would want to be actively seeking or intending to base new aircraft at the airport, due to the strain the current terminal gets at present during peak hours (6am and 8am departures). As well as all the based aircraft leaving during this time you also have 6-8 Wizzair aircraft fly in and out around this time too!
I think where the airport could really make some increases in traffic and not impact on the passenger experience through the airport is to gain more routes outside of peak hours, by trying to attract more foreign carriers to the airport. For example the likes Germanwings, Norwegian, Pegasus and Air Berlin...
This could work quite well for the airport, as the first aircraft would arrive around 8.30 in the morning, just as peak traffic dies down and the last of these airlines daily routes would be departing around 9.30pm at night to return to their respected bases. Just before the late evening arrival rush begins.
I love trying to run the airport from my armchair!
Are their any easyJet or Ryanair flights operated by non-based LTN aircraft, also how many aircraft and types does Thomson have based at the airport this summer?
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It does no airport any good to rely too much on Ryanair as they are an airline that likes to threaten and bully airports.
Not too much left of that hangar now. (see post and photo 4153) Another day or so and it will be all gone.
Not too much left of that hangar now. (see post and photo 4153) Another day or so and it will be all gone.
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As I said earlier David Ryanair do operate a number of flights to Luton using overseas based aircraft principally from the Canaries. I think you are a bit short of the mark with the number of Wizzair flights first thing in the morning - most days 11-13 aircraft probably going up to 14 in July/August. Thomson have two B737s and B757 based for the summer. Hope this helps.