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Gatwick -House of Commons 29 miles 1 hour 1 minute
Luton-House of Commons 34 miles 51 minutes
Stansted-House of Commons 38 miles 56 minutes
Gatwick is shortest in distance but longest in time
Luton-House of Commons 34 miles 51 minutes
Stansted-House of Commons 38 miles 56 minutes
Gatwick is shortest in distance but longest in time
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All very true, no doubt that the passenger experience would be enhanced with a station actually at the airport but I have travelled through Gatwick where after arriving at Gatwick station I have then had to walk through the south terminal to catch a transit train to get to the north terminal.
The Stansted passenger experience would be enhanced if it did not take up to 59 minutes to get to London and had a direct link to more than just 2 London stations, which means for most passengers another rail journey either by train or underground once in London. Also trains to and from Stansted dont run through the night.
The Stansted passenger experience would be enhanced if it did not take up to 59 minutes to get to London and had a direct link to more than just 2 London stations, which means for most passengers another rail journey either by train or underground once in London. Also trains to and from Stansted dont run through the night.
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God, this forum gets boring when all you get is page after page of LTN v STN diahoria debate regurgitated time and time again. Now we throw in LTN v LGW in to the mix!
Anyway, trying to bring the conversation back on track...
Anyone know the passenger figures for August, do we know if they exceeded the million mark again?
This time last month LTN had already made a press release bragging about the figures, should we assume they are not as impressive?
Also with Monarch dropping the order for 787's they had ordered, is this going to have an effect of their Engineering division at the airport? As I know they were gearing up to service these aircraft. Hope no hangars or jobs are at risk...
Anyway, trying to bring the conversation back on track...
Anyone know the passenger figures for August, do we know if they exceeded the million mark again?
This time last month LTN had already made a press release bragging about the figures, should we assume they are not as impressive?
Also with Monarch dropping the order for 787's they had ordered, is this going to have an effect of their Engineering division at the airport? As I know they were gearing up to service these aircraft. Hope no hangars or jobs are at risk...
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is this going to have an effect of their Engineering division at the airport?
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"Monarch said the maintenance division was "committed" to providing line and base services for the twinjet from early next year, along with its support for Boeing 737, 757, 767 and 777 jets."
So yes...
So yes...
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Posts: 90 "Monarch said the maintenance division was "committed" to providing line and base services for the twinjet from early next year, along with its support for Boeing 737, 757, 767 and 777 jets."
So yes...
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Posts: 90 "Monarch said the maintenance division was "committed" to providing line and base services for the twinjet from early next year, along with its support for Boeing 737, 757, 767 and 777 jets."
So yes...
Do they get many 777's in for maintenance? Can't say I see many other than the occassional BA Charter and the rare El-Al service.
Is all the Engineering division based at LTN?
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Captains Choice Tours are doing a series of private air tours around the world using a business class Boeing 757. The flights will depart from Harrods terminal at Luton and will cost from £14995.
enlighten us Buster!
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Would have thought any new routes would be to yet more Eastern European airports as the locals look to the UK for a source of jobs.
With 2.5 million people out of work anyone making a trip to the arrivals area around 7:30 any morning will see that the UK has a problem that the govenment has no powers to fix.
With 2.5 million people out of work anyone making a trip to the arrivals area around 7:30 any morning will see that the UK has a problem that the govenment has no powers to fix.
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Engineering Maintenance
It is also worth noting that airlines do not have to operate into an airport to have maintenance carried out by an MRO based there. Airlines will specifically fly to an airport for maintenance, FedEx as a good example into LTN.
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The biggest Luton story this year? 
UK-Luton: project management consultancy services: 2011/S 181-295590 | Tenders | The Construction Index
Which includes the following statements:
London Luton Airport Limited (LLAL) is seeking to appoint an engineering consultant to assist LLAL's planning consultant and other advisers in preparing and pursuing planning application(s) for the possible development of London Luton Airport to a capacity of around 18mppa and taking steps separetely to pursue a possible development consent with the IPC (Infrastructure Planning Commission) or its successor for an airport with capacity of around 20mppa.
Providing design led services to support the planning application and outline proposals for the development consent process.
UK-Luton: project management consultancy services: 2011/S 181-295590 | Tenders | The Construction Index
Which includes the following statements:
London Luton Airport Limited (LLAL) is seeking to appoint an engineering consultant to assist LLAL's planning consultant and other advisers in preparing and pursuing planning application(s) for the possible development of London Luton Airport to a capacity of around 18mppa and taking steps separetely to pursue a possible development consent with the IPC (Infrastructure Planning Commission) or its successor for an airport with capacity of around 20mppa.
Providing design led services to support the planning application and outline proposals for the development consent process.
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Item from the Independent newpaper slagging the airport off
Mary Dejevsky: Don't just stand there, complain! - Mary Dejevsky, Commentators - The Independent
The evening before my early-morning departure, I received a text message from the airline. "Due to congestion at Luton airport, we strongly advise you to arrive at least three hours before departure to avoid missing the flight..." Three hours, I thought bolshily, they can stuff it. If I miss the plane, I miss it, but I'm not setting off in the middle of the night.
If I'd been going on a family holiday, rather than for a weekend, my response might have been different. But it comes to something when the time you have to set aside to fly to eastern Europe from Luton would see you across the Atlantic from almost anywhere else.
Not that you would know of any inadequacies from the airport's website, which waxes lyrical about its delights, while boasting that it has set up a blog for comments (which I couldn't find). More searching, though, turned up another site Airline Reviews | Airport Reviews | Seat Reviews | Airline Ranking which began: "I've used airports all over the world and Luton is the worst that I have come across." Indeed.
Congestion is an understatement. Luton says proudly that the number of passengers in July exceeded a record 1 million. I don't doubt this, so why can't it improve conditions to match? At least the airlines do what they are paid to do reasonably competently. Do passengers on low-cost flights the bulk of Luton's traffic deserve only a low-cost, low-service airport? Where does the money from these record numbers of planes and passengers go?
I've taken two return trips from Luton in three months. The experience each time has been one long, chaotic queue from more than a mile outside the airport to the steps of the plane and back again. A £1 fee introduced for car drop-offs in April has led to gigantic tailbacks for all traffic, including buses. If, after that, you think your blood pressure won't survive inching towards security in a mass of several hundred slowed further by the dozens queue-jumping with impunity you're encouraged to pay £3 to be "fast-tracked" an iniquitous system that, I imagine, is meant to reduce complaints from stroppy individuals like me.
On your return, notices advertise the automated e-passports system through immigration. But there's no bypassing the thousand-strong mass of mostly east and central Europeans spilling far into the corridors. When I ask why the e-passports lane is shut, I'm told that it only opens at certain times. Why? Because passengers "need help" to use it, so like bagging your own groceries it takes twice the staff. Oh the efficiencies of automation!
When I then ask why non-EU citizens don't face a similar queue, I'm told that it's unusual. (Out of the corner of my eye I watch them open the non-EU lane to all-comers.) Welcome to Britain, fellow-Europeans pregnant, carrying small children, walking with difficulty, you're in for a good hour's wait and more than a few staircases on the way.
The saving grace is that the staff are, mostly, polite. And if you complain enough and need help, you may be escorted past the queue though, of course, that means a longer wait for everyone else. The kindly employee who took pity on me (with my walking stick) said it would be good if someone made a fuss. So that's what I'm doing. Whoever manages Luton airport, you are in charge of a national disgrace.
Mary Dejevsky: Don't just stand there, complain! - Mary Dejevsky, Commentators - The Independent
The evening before my early-morning departure, I received a text message from the airline. "Due to congestion at Luton airport, we strongly advise you to arrive at least three hours before departure to avoid missing the flight..." Three hours, I thought bolshily, they can stuff it. If I miss the plane, I miss it, but I'm not setting off in the middle of the night.
If I'd been going on a family holiday, rather than for a weekend, my response might have been different. But it comes to something when the time you have to set aside to fly to eastern Europe from Luton would see you across the Atlantic from almost anywhere else.
Not that you would know of any inadequacies from the airport's website, which waxes lyrical about its delights, while boasting that it has set up a blog for comments (which I couldn't find). More searching, though, turned up another site Airline Reviews | Airport Reviews | Seat Reviews | Airline Ranking which began: "I've used airports all over the world and Luton is the worst that I have come across." Indeed.
Congestion is an understatement. Luton says proudly that the number of passengers in July exceeded a record 1 million. I don't doubt this, so why can't it improve conditions to match? At least the airlines do what they are paid to do reasonably competently. Do passengers on low-cost flights the bulk of Luton's traffic deserve only a low-cost, low-service airport? Where does the money from these record numbers of planes and passengers go?
I've taken two return trips from Luton in three months. The experience each time has been one long, chaotic queue from more than a mile outside the airport to the steps of the plane and back again. A £1 fee introduced for car drop-offs in April has led to gigantic tailbacks for all traffic, including buses. If, after that, you think your blood pressure won't survive inching towards security in a mass of several hundred slowed further by the dozens queue-jumping with impunity you're encouraged to pay £3 to be "fast-tracked" an iniquitous system that, I imagine, is meant to reduce complaints from stroppy individuals like me.
On your return, notices advertise the automated e-passports system through immigration. But there's no bypassing the thousand-strong mass of mostly east and central Europeans spilling far into the corridors. When I ask why the e-passports lane is shut, I'm told that it only opens at certain times. Why? Because passengers "need help" to use it, so like bagging your own groceries it takes twice the staff. Oh the efficiencies of automation!
When I then ask why non-EU citizens don't face a similar queue, I'm told that it's unusual. (Out of the corner of my eye I watch them open the non-EU lane to all-comers.) Welcome to Britain, fellow-Europeans pregnant, carrying small children, walking with difficulty, you're in for a good hour's wait and more than a few staircases on the way.
The saving grace is that the staff are, mostly, polite. And if you complain enough and need help, you may be escorted past the queue though, of course, that means a longer wait for everyone else. The kindly employee who took pity on me (with my walking stick) said it would be good if someone made a fuss. So that's what I'm doing. Whoever manages Luton airport, you are in charge of a national disgrace.