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Yes. BTS is twice daily & PRG daily, with an early morning arrival into LTN, which is much better than TOM. Other two destinations seem to be served 3/4 weekly each.
Didn't they operate a MAN-SZG at some point. That would be another good winter destination.
Didn't they operate a MAN-SZG at some point. That would be another good winter destination.
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salzburg wuld be gd, maybe TOM could take that up if they drop the prague due to skyeurope, is this a gd bit of business then for luton dont know much bout skyeurope, havent even heard of kosice and poprad
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This is great news for LTN in the short-term, but for how long can NE run from FR? In a way it makes sense - EZY pulled off BTS from LTN whereas there is competiton from STN, and to have opened another PRG route from STN when EZY/OK already fly it would have been ridiculous - but on the other hand they are leaving themselves vulnerable to Wizz.
Kosice is Slovakia's second largest city, and currently without a London link. Poprad is near the Tatra mountains, great for winter skiing and summer hiking.
SkyEurope did used to be bigger at STN, 2x daily at one time to BTS, BUD, KRK and WAW but with all the competition it all went wrong.
Kosice is Slovakia's second largest city, and currently without a London link. Poprad is near the Tatra mountains, great for winter skiing and summer hiking.
SkyEurope did used to be bigger at STN, 2x daily at one time to BTS, BUD, KRK and WAW but with all the competition it all went wrong.
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Don't think TOM will drop PRG because of Sky Europes' intervention. In fact, in someways, it actually enhances the destination by making a day trip possible, if you travel outbound on one airline, and return inbound by the other.
Heard that an additional TOM airframe will be based at LTN from May 08, a new 738. However, with no FCA based from Oct 07, overall much the same but more Ws, inbound, than this year.
Heard that an additional TOM airframe will be based at LTN from May 08, a new 738. However, with no FCA based from Oct 07, overall much the same but more Ws, inbound, than this year.
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SkyEurope Schedule
As far as I can see - schedule is as follows
BTS: Start Date 28.10, M-F Twice Daily, Sat-Sun Daily
PRG: Start Date 28.10, Daily
KSC: Start Date 29.10, M-W-F
TAT: Start Date 30.10, T-T-Sat
A total of 25 flights a week.
BTS: Start Date 28.10, M-F Twice Daily, Sat-Sun Daily
PRG: Start Date 28.10, Daily
KSC: Start Date 29.10, M-W-F
TAT: Start Date 30.10, T-T-Sat
A total of 25 flights a week.
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Transfered ops from Stansted, what is the catch?
Stunningly good news for Luton, let us hope they they don't do a Volare!
Having sat back and thought about this, I think that SkyEurope actually seriously considred Luton instead of Stansted back when they first launched operations from the UK? No doubt the lure of the BAA buck was too good to miss back then?
Stunningly good news for Luton, let us hope they they don't do a Volare!
Having sat back and thought about this, I think that SkyEurope actually seriously considred Luton instead of Stansted back when they first launched operations from the UK? No doubt the lure of the BAA buck was too good to miss back then?
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Yes, they considered Luton before - when they first came in to the UK the flights appeared on the Luton Airport programme for a few weeks, so the decision must have been close.
And Buster's right to be cautious - not just Volare, remember Helvetica?
But there are some reasons behind this:
Stansted has increased its charges, and they will go higher.
Sky Europe, although a public company, is one of the weaker locos. Its fleet has stagnated at around 14 for some time whilst it achieved cost and operational efficiencies (see investor section of the website).
On Bratislava - the key route to its main base it competes head-to-head with Ryanair at STN, with similar flight timings. On Prague from STN it would compete with EZY and CSA daily, whereas from Luton it's just TOM three times a week.
Operationally, I'm sure Luton is more efficient to achieve rapid turn-rounds.
And maybe, just maybe someone has realised that Luton is far better located in the UK than Stansted!
It will be interesting to see how Poprad and Kosice perform - neither has any current direct link to Western Europe, and the former's website is mainly about private flying!
And Buster's right to be cautious - not just Volare, remember Helvetica?
But there are some reasons behind this:
Stansted has increased its charges, and they will go higher.
Sky Europe, although a public company, is one of the weaker locos. Its fleet has stagnated at around 14 for some time whilst it achieved cost and operational efficiencies (see investor section of the website).
On Bratislava - the key route to its main base it competes head-to-head with Ryanair at STN, with similar flight timings. On Prague from STN it would compete with EZY and CSA daily, whereas from Luton it's just TOM three times a week.
Operationally, I'm sure Luton is more efficient to achieve rapid turn-rounds.
And maybe, just maybe someone has realised that Luton is far better located in the UK than Stansted!
It will be interesting to see how Poprad and Kosice perform - neither has any current direct link to Western Europe, and the former's website is mainly about private flying!
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This is what LTN needs - seems it has an unbalanced number of based aircraft for its current operations, while stands are unoccupied for long periods during the day.
Reminds me of long ago whern Sterling relocated form STN to LTN - anyone else remember the morning their SE210s were getting in from SRAs on 08 (no ILS then) when no one else was- don't know what their secret was!
As I have said before I have no doubt the airport will survive and be busy without geographical expansion in 30 years time -I just can't predict the mix of traffic
Reminds me of long ago whern Sterling relocated form STN to LTN - anyone else remember the morning their SE210s were getting in from SRAs on 08 (no ILS then) when no one else was- don't know what their secret was!
As I have said before I have no doubt the airport will survive and be busy without geographical expansion in 30 years time -I just can't predict the mix of traffic
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With all these new routes feeding through BPK I do hope something is going to be done to deconflict our SIDs from others in the LTMA otherwise the queue will be back to the aprons. I know there are plans afoot to do this but it will be needed sooner rather than later.
Not that it will affect me . . . . .
Not that it will affect me . . . . .
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It will be interesting to see how Poprad and Kosice perform - neither has any current direct link to Western Europe, and the former's website is mainly about private flying!
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Formal annoucement on the airport web site now.
As 22/04 says, there is plenty more capacity as long as you don't want to overnight your aircraft.
As I have said before EZY/FR, be warned and with STN charges no longer being so attractive, who knows what the future might hold.........
As 22/04 says, there is plenty more capacity as long as you don't want to overnight your aircraft.
As I have said before EZY/FR, be warned and with STN charges no longer being so attractive, who knows what the future might hold.........
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This is excellent news for LTN but I fear, as VA says, these additional flights operating from/to the east (all departing via Brookmans Park) are going to put a very severe strain on the ATC system and the London airspace in that area. LTN is already now generating 400+ flights a day and is now probably going to nudge towards 450 by the end of the year and there is a very real risk that system will just not cope 
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I did a live radio report for Three Counties Radio about the flooding at the airport so I have had my 30 seconds of fame
Nothing is getting through the tunnel in either direction with the police closing the road. The local road network is at a complete standstill with traffic on the A505 not moving as far as the eye can see due to the tunnel closure.
Nothing is getting through the tunnel in either direction with the police closing the road. The local road network is at a complete standstill with traffic on the A505 not moving as far as the eye can see due to the tunnel closure.
The thought of being stuck in LTN airport!!