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"Evening AC would operate 54J instead of 12F/42J, JC service offered in FCL class if cabin is used and would be sold as JC seats. FCL cabin would only be used if the JC pax exceeds 42. Upgrades would be done on criteria e.g. skywards class"
No upgrades until it reaches over the 76 BC seats on the A380!!!!
No upgrades until it reaches over the 76 BC seats on the A380!!!!
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According to FIDS, outbound pax total was 40. Not sure about the split. HA personnel on here maybe able tell you that.
It should get busy in late November for Jeddah methinks.
It should get busy in late November for Jeddah methinks.
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40 pax - not so bad when you consider that after being postponed a few times the flight that eventually operated on Sat was only announced as being the inaugural flight a couple of weeks beforehand - but I still have my doubts about the longevity of this operation using a 747! Good luck to them though
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Monarch have a massive operation to the Canaries. They haven't really bothered them on other routes so I doubt the 1/2 weekly services to these destinations will make much of a difference either.
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Dont you believe it,Monarch will not be impressed.
They see BHX as a future growth airport.
Dont forget Ryanair hitting them in LTN as well ,another established base.
Saving grace this year might be advance bookings but if Ryanair do the canaries year round and increase frequencies we will see if Monarch are up for a fight.
They see BHX as a future growth airport.
Dont forget Ryanair hitting them in LTN as well ,another established base.
Saving grace this year might be advance bookings but if Ryanair do the canaries year round and increase frequencies we will see if Monarch are up for a fight.
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Where have Ryanair ever the frequency from a non-London base on 4+ hour flights?
ALC, PMI and AGP have made little if any difference to ZB's schedules from BHX. In fact, haven't they increased frequency this winter?
ALC, PMI and AGP have made little if any difference to ZB's schedules from BHX. In fact, haven't they increased frequency this winter?
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ZB/FR
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I agree the ZB winter schedule from BHX is impressive at the moment
but they have cut this summer compared to last.
Malaga was double daily Th/Fr/Sa/Su/Mo at various times last summer
or the previous one but only daily this summer.
Alicante - At various times there has been a Sat & Sun night summer
departure and neither have operated this year.
Murcia - Daily last summer and operated in winter 07 until FR arrived. Now only four weekly in summer and no winter service .
Palma - no change but now has three operators but none this winter (I know not a great winter deatination but no flights!). Even Baby have
dropped their two a week winter service.
Pete
I agree the ZB winter schedule from BHX is impressive at the moment
but they have cut this summer compared to last.
Malaga was double daily Th/Fr/Sa/Su/Mo at various times last summer
or the previous one but only daily this summer.
Alicante - At various times there has been a Sat & Sun night summer
departure and neither have operated this year.
Murcia - Daily last summer and operated in winter 07 until FR arrived. Now only four weekly in summer and no winter service .
Palma - no change but now has three operators but none this winter (I know not a great winter deatination but no flights!). Even Baby have
dropped their two a week winter service.
Pete
ZB have customers who travel with them because they chose to, a loyal base, they like the service, many are regulars who use it several times a year.
I believe that these are not the type of passengers who just go for the cheapest reguardless of the carrier!
ZB will remain very much unaffected by the other part time services.
I believe that these are not the type of passengers who just go for the cheapest reguardless of the carrier!
ZB will remain very much unaffected by the other part time services.
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Hellenic Imperial Airways
Nice to see a new mid-haul route at BHX to Jeddah, thereby shoe-horning a 747 into the BHX schedule. Co-incidentally it's probably the cheapest legal way of trying out a Lufthansa F class seat (although not service obviously) judging from what's being sold as a J class seat:
http://bhxflightguide.*************/...nic%20Imperial
http://bhxflightguide.*************/...nic%20Imperial
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New Pier
Put your hand up i fyou think the new pier is turning into a nightmare. Anyonw who works at BHX will understand where i'm coming from. Just because something looks nice on the outside........
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New Pier Nightmare?
legalize - For those of us who don't work at BHX, would you care to elaborate on the problems of the 'nightmare' pier that no doubt many of us will be using in the next few months and years....
PS Not sure I agree that it looks that nice from the outside!!
PS Not sure I agree that it looks that nice from the outside!!
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New Pier
Not sure the nightmare senario is correct, I know it has had a few logistical problems like the fuelling of 777 on 42 and them complaining of no exit path way, erm try the taxiway??? Other problems are that in its infinate wisdom you cannot call flights down until a/c are ready for boarding. This has made 25 minute spins on a WW737 neon impossible.
I expected there to be teething problems as lets be honest it aint finished and is still work in progress. As for a nightmare no. Its not on the scale of T5 at LHR. Once finished and fully operational am sure no one will miss the old Hole we called the international pier. Also for anyone who does not work there to look at the following link and scroll down to take a look. http://bhxflightguide.*************/.
I do agree with Gay freindly and no it does not look good from the outside, kinda a big warehouse with airbridges on.
Barry
I expected there to be teething problems as lets be honest it aint finished and is still work in progress. As for a nightmare no. Its not on the scale of T5 at LHR. Once finished and fully operational am sure no one will miss the old Hole we called the international pier. Also for anyone who does not work there to look at the following link and scroll down to take a look. http://bhxflightguide.*************/.
I do agree with Gay freindly and no it does not look good from the outside, kinda a big warehouse with airbridges on.
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new Pier BHX
There are not enough air bridges, pax have to run the gaunlet dodging in between all the equipment servicing the aircraft. Parking for all the ground equipment is going to be a nightmare, the planners seem to have forgot about this point!!!!!
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New Pier
From a pax point of view (arrived last Thursday on stand 40) it looked
great even with a large amount of workmen......well working.
Obviously arriving on 40, I only got a long range view of the one end
and it looked a long way without moving walkways (did not notice them).
The light colours, windows and high ceilings gave a very spacious
look and feel compared to the old wreck.
The airport worked well with the airbridge connected quickly (TOM
flight), not too long at Immigration and the first bags arrived at -18.
I even found a trolley outside without paying the rip-off £1 but it was
very noticeable at the lack of take-up by the pax in baggage reclaim.
Pete
great even with a large amount of workmen......well working.
Obviously arriving on 40, I only got a long range view of the one end
and it looked a long way without moving walkways (did not notice them).
The light colours, windows and high ceilings gave a very spacious
look and feel compared to the old wreck.
The airport worked well with the airbridge connected quickly (TOM
flight), not too long at Immigration and the first bags arrived at -18.
I even found a trolley outside without paying the rip-off £1 but it was
very noticeable at the lack of take-up by the pax in baggage reclaim.
Pete
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dont thing monarch has many worries about fr's canaries flights... i'm booked on mon's flights to lpa on 28th dec ( 4 pax ), fr is over 500quid more expensive. ok fr flight is on 27th but still quite expensive. dont fr refund double the difference if you find another flight cheaper elsewhere?.
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The problems on the Pier stands are being sorted. Most of the problem is that the stands are being used heavily because the 50's are closed for the demolition. Some redesign of stand markings is to happen. The fuellers exit problem on 42 has been sorted. The 50's are all code E stands so should alleviate a lot of the problems. The Emirates will be using 54 as stand of choice I believe, certainly for the A380.
Having said that, we think that whoever designed some of the ground layout needs a good talking to (polite!!). As problems arise though they are being dealt with. I don't think you could have a project of that size without the teething problems.
I think universally the exterior of the pier is seen as just a big warehouse with no redeeming features. The interior is a great improvement on the old obviously.
Having said that, we think that whoever designed some of the ground layout needs a good talking to (polite!!). As problems arise though they are being dealt with. I don't think you could have a project of that size without the teething problems.
I think universally the exterior of the pier is seen as just a big warehouse with no redeeming features. The interior is a great improvement on the old obviously.