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Old 19th Jul 2009, 00:51
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No thanks.... I already thought it was done and dusted....Onward and upward!!
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Thanks OP

Olton Pete's - Analysis for June does not make very good reading. No wonder the Airport company are in no hurry to list the pax figures on the main Airport site -On the bright side good to see Dubai up and the service to Istambul carring something possibly like an ecomomic load (My guess - others better informed will jump on me). Yes I know you cannot read too much into the bald statistics and you have to allow for cargo etc and its yeald that matters.- I wonder how other regional airports are holding up ? - Sorry to be so negative, but with the impending deleterious effects of "Swine Flu" to be factored into future demand, we may see cuts in schedules fron the regions in the UK in the short/medium term and thats bad for everyone. - For once, I hope I'm very wrong as people's jobs depend on demand. Thanks to OP for the stats

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June Passengers

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As you say without any accurate yield figures they are only a guide.

I have not checked any other airports for individual route analysis other
than the odd long-haul from Manchester/Glasgow etc

The only thing I would say about the BHX figures is that you can see
the reason for some of the frequency cuts such as KLM Amsterdam,
flybe Stuttgart and Milan.

I checked a few September flights and at present there are few cuts
although August shows a much reduced flybe schedule which is
understanable considering the routes they operate.

The Emirates figure is good but I did check fares at times during
May & June and they were competative to say the least.

The Ryanair figures seem okay but they are a totally impossible airline to second guess re profitable or loss making routes. Their winter schedule
is very sparse at present and it will be interesting to see what happens.

Turkish is 321 again today, hopefully a sign that loads have picked up.

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Old 19th Jul 2009, 19:39
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Thanks for the reply

Olton Pete, thank you for the reply. For me and others who are interested - where on the CAA Statistics site do you get your data from ?

I have tried without success to access the data. Are the figs available to the general public or is access restricted.

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Old 19th Jul 2009, 20:54
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On the bright side good to see Dubai up
Not surprising, especially when EK seem to have overbooked every single bloody flight, which means headaches for Travel Agents, as we are always the first port of call for passengers connecting onwards to PEW, ISB, LHE & KHI, complaining we have given them dud tickets, I had one group of 11 passengers who were all denied boarding and given free tickets as well as carried on other flights, surely EK cannot be doing that for long without making losses.

I say its all down to this STUPID farelogix booking system that has been instroduced, it is a right pain in the A**.

One a different point, what is the latest with Hellenic Imperial, we had a meeting with them this saturday, and the UK Director seems pretty sure the first flight is due to depart the 25th July 2009, he is offering Blocks of seats to agents for the Hajj Season. I did mention that pprune was stating otherwise, and that a 747 was OTT for the BHX-ATH route, but he was insisting the flights will be full.

Any views would be appreciated.
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 13:02
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Hellenic

Should operate a flight this Saturday - shortly to be confirmed.

Kazamb were you visited by a Travel Agent claiming to be the UK Director or by an Hellenic UK employee, be careful!
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Kazamb were you visited by a Travel Agent claiming to be the UK Director or by an Hellenic UK employee, be careful!
I have grave doubts about any airline director randomly visiting Travel Agenst and claiming they can fill a 747 on BHX-ATH.......lets hope Hellenic can survive on the route long enough before (as they have previously said) change a/c type to a 737
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 14:16
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The airline'''Director''' is in fact a travel agent trying to put together some UMRAH business for the airline.
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Kazamb

Why would you mention a web-site forum in your
discussions ?

I smell a rat!

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I did it to see his response and how he would react when confronted about the cancellation of the slots and route. I did mention that it would be wiser to feed traffic into athens on a smaller craft and then transfer onto the 747 as long as you have other traffic feeding in from other airports, otherwise it would be uneconomical.

His card states UK director as do his email sign offs. Suffice to say, none of the Hajj groups are showing an interest in touching the airline.
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 15:09
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Kazamb we have also had this - if you look closely he is the Director of Hellenic Travels a agency set up to be an agent for the carrier.

On a different note my contact at BHX tell me they are to issue a press release about this service which will include the details of an actual Hellenic office in the UK operated by Hellenic staff!

Perhaps the Hadj agents will view it much differently then ?
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 17:12
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Re Hellenic
2 staff now on board and the airline has secured an office at Concorde House BHX

Press release out tomorrow
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Old 22nd Jul 2009, 20:21
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Remember there were Press Releases for Bilga Air, Akal Air/Air Sylhet and much longer ago FlyBlu........ A Press Release from BHX does not mean the flight will actually take off, much as I hope it actually does........
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Pres Releases

Didnt Air Sylhet manage 2 flights.

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June Pax Figure

June Passenger Figures

21 July 2009

During June, Birmingham International Airport handled 898,608 travellers through its two terminals, including 645,759 scheduled passengers and 252,849 charter passengers.
Paul Kehoe, Birmingham Airport’s Chief Executive Officer, explains: “June’s figures, which represent a 4.1% fall, again underline the tough conditions we find ourselves operating under. Despite moving into what is peak season we continue to see traffic down on the same period last year, in line with the vast majority of airports, not just in the UK but around Europe.
“However, despite these tough times the Airport continues to discuss a range of opportunities with prospective partners as Birmingham clearly remains an Airport with a reputation for offering choice and value for money for local business and leisure travellers.”
During June significant growth was achieved on scheduled flights to destinations such as Reus (+181.2%), Torp (+161.9%), Poitiers (+129.4%), Newquay (+125.8%), Arrecife (+116.1%), Rzeszow (+111.3%), Billund (+104.8%), Larnaca (+92.1%), Krakow (+74.5%), Prague (+36.6%), Tenerife (+34.3%), Ibiza (+27.6%), Alicante (+26.9%), Malaga (+25.9%), Hanover (+22.1%), Palma (+20.5%) and Mahon (+19.3%), Dubai (+16.7%), Inverness (+8.7%) and Zurich (+7.8%).
Charter traffic which experienced growth included Egypt (+47.9%), Turkey (+22.4%), Croatia (+18.5%) and Malta (+12.6%).
Scheduled traffic accounted for 71.9% of the total passenger traffic in June whilst charter passengers made up the remaining 28.1%.
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Old 23rd Jul 2009, 06:47
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Hellenic Press Release

New Jumbo Jet Flights To Athens And Onward To Jeddah Announced From Birmingham

22 July 2009

Hellenic Imperial Airways and Birmingham International Airport are pleased to announce that from Saturday 25th July a new weekly service will begin between Birmingham and Athens, with onward connections to Jeddah in Saudi Arabia. This new weekly service is hoped to increase to a twice weekly service in August, subject to demand.
The Greek registered scheduled airline will operate a Boeing 747-200 aircraft with 450 seats. It will arrive into Birmingham on Saturdays at 19:00 and depart back to Athens and Jeddah at 22:00. On Mondays, the airline will arrive into Birmingham at 17:00, departing back to Athens and Jeddah at 22:00 the following day.
The Chairman of Hellenic Imperial Airways, Talal Abureyal, said “Birmingham is our first UK airport and we are very excited about launching services in the Midlands. Athens, which is our HQ, is not currently served from Birmingham so we expect that our flights will be welcomed by those travelling for business and leisure, in particular those visiting friends and relatives.”
Marc Watkins, Birmingham Airport’s Market Development Manager – Aviation, said, “We welcome this development, particularly in today’s challenging economic climate. There is a market for Athens in the Midlands and the convenient schedule will suit those flying on business and leisure to both Greece and the Middle East. We urge those who would normally travel to other UK airports outside the region to now choose Hellenic from Birmingham to support this new venture.”
Theo Silvestros, Commercial Manager, Hellenic Imperial Airways said “As the principal gateway to Mecca, the Jeddah flights to be used by many Pilgrims wanting to access Islam's holiest city, and with such competitive prices Midlands people will be able to start this important journey from their doorstep.”
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4 Emirates at BHX Today !

EK diverted a Gatwick and a Heathrow service to BHX today, giving us 3 on the ground together !

http://bhxflightguide.*************/
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Old 24th Jul 2009, 22:52
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BHX-ATH/ATH-BHX has less than 9 seats available on 4 flights in August - not bad at all!
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Old 25th Jul 2009, 00:19
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The new Pier

Thanks for the link re the EK divertions - Did any one notice the new pier in the background - I'm sure it will look more impressive when the temporary cladding is removed - Is that it ? - I did breed budgies as a kid.

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Old 25th Jul 2009, 10:37
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There is actually a Hellenic 742 due in this evening so they are starting today it would seem! Due to arrive around 2010 from Athens.
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