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Old 29th Jul 2010, 15:57
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SAS flew the route with leased RJ70s from Transwede in full SAS colours, then downgraded to an ATR42 leased from Cimber, again in SAS colours. At the end of last summer the route was dropped and immediately picked up by Cimber operating the ATR42 but in their own right this time.

I suspect BA CityFlyer sense a chance to poach the market that the competition has built up but couldn't make pay.
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Old 29th Jul 2010, 19:10
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Problems tonight???

Last flight to EDI often late - but tonight more than two hours.....!
Love the E-jets, but not if that becomes the norm...
Any reason,please?...
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Old 29th Jul 2010, 19:14
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I heard from a friend at lcy that some of the aircraft have had damage this week, so some delays! Hope they sort it soon, I'm off to IBZ soon!
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Old 29th Jul 2010, 19:17
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Notice there was an additional flight ex LCY tonight to EDI

BA8714 dep LCY at 17:50 and arrived 19:20. The weird thing was operated by a D328

Is this a one off??

Last flight to EDI often late - but tonight more than two hours.....!
Love the E-jets, but not if that becomes the norm...
Any reason,please?...
I thought that the inbound BA8768 from ZRH operated the last flight to EDI.
That landed at 20:12.

Don't know if it is related but BA8700 the 07:00 ex LCY was cancelled this morning. Return sector ex EDI operated, using a Bae146, I guess from Titan?. The same aircraft operated BA8765/6 LCY-ZRH-LCY.

It looks as if they have had a tech 190 today are playing catch up.

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Old 29th Jul 2010, 20:00
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Big shuffle the past couple of days as they're one E190 down plus an E170 was damaged last sunday and tech for a few days.

Two aircraft down and playing catch-up...throw in a big slot here and there...
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Old 29th Jul 2010, 20:44
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Big shuffle the past couple of days as they're one E190 down plus an E170 was damaged last sunday and tech for a few days.

Two aircraft down and playing catch-up...throw in a big slot here and there...
I was suprised when BACF pushed back delivery date of there last E190 to Nov.

I guess with it being the height of the season BACF need the E190's for routes such as BCN, PMI and IBZ and the GLA charters on Friday, Saturday and Sunday

I take it the Titan BAe146's don't have the range to operate to PMI ex LCY. Hence the 2 hour delay. With a delay like that and two aircraft down in a small fleet it easy to see where the delays come from.

I notice BACF are down to operate even more charter flights next summer from GLA and EDI. Think they better firm up those 3 aircraft options they have and soon .
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Old 29th Jul 2010, 21:06
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I was suprised when BACF pushed back delivery date of there last E190 to Nov.

I guess with it being the height of the season BACF need the E190's for routes such as BCN, PMI and IBZ and the GLA charters on Friday, Saturday and Sunday

I notice BACF are down to operate even more charter flights next summer from GLA and EDI. Think they better firm up those 3 aircraft options they have and soon .
Something I don't understand either. The E190 is performance wise in a different league for those longer routes. It would be a welcome addition!

What have you read/heard about next years GLA/EDI charters?
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Old 29th Jul 2010, 21:07
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How much to buy an Embraer 190 ? About £30-35m I guess. How much for an RJ ? Probably less than £5m. That's why you could have spare aircraft in the old fleet (and even then have to fall back on Titan sometimes). But not now.
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Old 29th Jul 2010, 23:04
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Thomas Cook are seeling holidays with flights operated by British Airways:


Saturday - EDI-IBZ. Flight operating a W pattern. EDI-IBZ-NCL-IBZ-EDI

Sunday - EDI-PMI-EDI.

Since the 1st Edition S11 brochure was published I have read on a local EDI site that BACF will also operate a Saturday EDI-PMI-EDI and a Saturday EDI-MAH-EDI which are currently shown as being operated by BE.

Thomson S11 timetable shows BA flights operating ex GLA

Friday to PMI, MAH,

Saturday to ALC

Sunday to FAO , AGP

Barrhead travel are also in talks to increase there flights ex GLA in 2011. They will also add flights to PMI and AGP from ABZ.

The ABZ flights are expected to be operated as a W pattern:

GLA-PMI-ABZ-PMI-GLA
GLA-AGP-ABZ-AGP-GLA
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Old 29th Jul 2010, 23:36
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Good recovery

Impressive recovery by BACF ops tonight - found a crew, borrowed a 190 for EDI and flew us home at least an hour earlier than the expected delay.
Well done - tho that 190 will probably be in the wrong place tomorrow...
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Old 30th Jul 2010, 09:45
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Not a good morning if you are heading for Spain from LCY!!

Originally Posted by seat 13a
Impressive recovery by BACF ops tonight
Not sure this mornings IBZ pax were as impressed. The 07:00 IBZ departure finally left 09:25.

Also looks as if there are some probs with the aircraft that op in from MAD this morning. Inbound was ontime. Outbound was due to depart 09:35, now showing estimated 12:10.
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Old 30th Jul 2010, 10:09
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Tech problems

Surely BACF should not experiencing tech issues with the new E-jets. Or are these just initial teething problems?
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either way lets just hope that BA take the options on the E jets currently held, both for further expansion but also to that they can have a spare!
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Sorry to hear the weekenders were delayed...
However, ops clearly not forgetting that the commuters are big revenue earners winter and summer...

That said, we clearly need a few more E-jets.
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Old 30th Jul 2010, 19:39
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32SQDN; The problems I guess you could call teething however they , at the moment, seem to be consistent across the 190's. Both the 190 sat in LCY all day that was meant to do the IBZ and the 190 that actually went to IBZ had a similar problem. It only grounded the first one though. I guess you can just be unlucky , I as yet have not had a major tech delay.

The Madrid didn't have a tech problem it was pinched to operate a different service.
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Old 1st Aug 2010, 21:33
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The next 190 that is coming in November (Jethros)... is that already crewed?

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Old 1st Aug 2010, 22:00
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Originally Posted by towser
Both the 190 sat in LCY all day.
Noticed a significant number of raised engine cowls on the Embraer fleet on the LCY ramp on Saturday afternoon, a lot of "heads in engines", and plenty of Ground Support Equipment around, at a time when the apron is normally dead, of course.

All the good old CityJet fleet just sat alongside sunning themselves unattended in the sunshine while this was going on. What was that about reduced maintenance requirements on the new fleet ?
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I think they mean't reduced ROUTINE maintenance!
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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 17:18
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Cityflyer do A checks on the ramp, the good old rjs needed double the time and a hangar, maybe that's why? Where do cityjet do checks, Dub?
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Old 4th Aug 2010, 15:56
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Whats the general mood at BACF, is there going to be a big exodus to the sand pit ?
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