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I would think any order for additional frames would also see a recruitment drive for flight and cabin crew.
When it comes to the CPH route, clearly QI think that BACF are going to do well. They announced that they would drop there 2 x daily CPH flights before BACF even started.
Finally does anyone know if a full E-Jet would be able to fly non stop LCY-VCE?.
When it comes to the CPH route, clearly QI think that BACF are going to do well. They announced that they would drop there 2 x daily CPH flights before BACF even started.
Finally does anyone know if a full E-Jet would be able to fly non stop LCY-VCE?.
Who would want to fly from LCY to Venice ? It's mainly a tourist destination with little business traffic, and not a financial industry centre. Even Milan, Italy's commercial and financial centre, served from LCY by Cityjet, only just hangs on and has had several stops and restarts over time. The fact that the principal BA service to Venice is from Gatwick (thrice daily), not Heathrow (single daily A319), is a bit of a clue about yields there.
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The CPH is off to a flying start. Regarding the VCE question. A E170 could do VCE with a full payload year round. It's about 700nm against 800nm for the current MAD ex LCY. I would expect any new airframes to be used to accomodate next years summer charter program and a couple of new leisure destinations. Similar to the current PMI and IBZ.
Expect the official airframe announcement on NOV 22nd latest when 'YN' gets handed over to BACF. If my maths are correct, that will be E-Jet c/n nbr# 700 and most propably will recieve a special sticker to celebrate it.
Expect the official airframe announcement on NOV 22nd latest when 'YN' gets handed over to BACF. If my maths are correct, that will be E-Jet c/n nbr# 700 and most propably will recieve a special sticker to celebrate it.
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VCE- Leisure cruise pax. Thats who. BA this year have been running charters on behalf of a cruise line from LHR. LCY to VCE would offer a alternative that would be very popular.
BACF have shown that there is a leisure market available from LCY not just a business one.
BACF have shown that there is a leisure market available from LCY not just a business one.
There have actually been services from LCY to Venice before. Baboo started off advertising their Geneva service as a through plane to Venice, that didn't last, but going back to the earliest days of jet operations at LCY, the Conti-Flug (remember them ?) 146 service to Berlin Tempelhof also was advertised as a through service to Venice.
Both these routes were characterised by virtually no bookings for the through service.
Both these routes were characterised by virtually no bookings for the through service.
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Mmm let me think, a direct service on BA in a new aircraft or a "through" service on a minor airline via Germany....now I wonder why bookings werent great. Watch BA romp it home....
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I've heard several people talk about it and nobody seems to know what it is? It's about a good 2hrs isn't it? Hmmm....let me know what you guys get told so the rest of us knows as well. 
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...CPH off to a flying start? How did you work that one out. I have flown on it on a number of occasions and not counted more than 20 passengers.
I understand the arguement that the route takes time to build but surely this is burning money the company could do without. Is the market really there?
I understand the arguement that the route takes time to build but surely this is burning money the company could do without. Is the market really there?
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A random exapmple, 4 flights in 2 days with all a 100% l/f. Can't call that bad...
Originally Posted by RJ100
British Airways is looking at exercising options for Embraer E-190s to meet growing demand for services at London City Airport.
BA director of strategy Robert Boyle says the last of 11 E-Jets it ordered in late 2008 for its CityFlyer unit will be delivered in November and BA has an imminent deadline in exercising options.
BA director of strategy Robert Boyle says the last of 11 E-Jets it ordered in late 2008 for its CityFlyer unit will be delivered in November and BA has an imminent deadline in exercising options.
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Great news! Delivery dates April and June and the 2nd E190 is to be based at EDI. Due to the early ARN service start it will be operated by the spare aircraft until 'YO' comes online in April. More news to follow!
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If we go on roughly 4 crews per aircraft then I would suggest 8 capts and 8 fo's. They are planning on running 3 courses however and we usually have 8 people on a course. Some capts posistions will be filled internally thereby increasing the number of fo's required.
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Titan Airways 146 registation G-ZAPO seems to have been operating a few services on behalf of BACF recently. The dates in question are 13th, 15th, 18th. 19th and today (20th). Does anyone know the reason for this?. Is it due to one or more of BACF's e-jets currently out of service??.
Great news about the ARN route. It will be interesting to see what if any new routes BACF launch during S11.
Great news! Delivery dates April and June and the 2nd E190 is to be based at EDI. Due to the early ARN service start it will be operated by the spare aircraft until 'YO' comes online in April. More news to follow!