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Old 25th Jan 2007, 09:24
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BA Cityflyer

Ok looks like there isn't a thread for this already, so now seems a good time to start one.
Some questions that I can't seem to find answers for.

Is BA Cityflyer going to be created as a seperate subidiary or will it be a renamed BACON just with the LCY routes etc.

Does anyone know what is meant by the expansion of routes out of LCY?

Could be an interesting few months for this airline and its staff

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Old 25th Jan 2007, 09:36
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Wholly owned subsidiary which will be called BA Cityflyer. As for expansion of routes at the moment there are 3/4 aircraft based in Edinburgh. Once deal is all sorted out there will effectivley be 9/10 so more routes needed to work all the aircraft. This will include new destinations out of LCY and maybe an increase in rotations to destinations already served.
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Old 25th Jan 2007, 09:45
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Thanks towser , what would the chances be of a IOM - LCY route, and what slots do BA have availble / intend to acquire, T3 is cancelling its NCL - LCY route and so that will free up a small number.

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Old 25th Jan 2007, 10:12
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The chances of an IOM-LCY are absolutely none. This would be treading on the toes of the Flybe deal to take the 146 operation that already sits on the Island. If they did try it, they would put Euromanx out of business in very short order.

As Euromanx only exist because they owe the RBS so much money they need to pay it back (at least 40mill so far), they need to stay profitable on the LYC route to survive. BA Citiflyer also exist because of a huge contract with the RBS on the EDN-LCY route, and the RBS call the tune. So go figure. Would RBS sanction an IOM rotation and jeapodise their 40mill investment? Don't think so.
 
Old 25th Jan 2007, 10:28
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What about routes like the MAD-BHX?

At the moment the route is part of a touring pattern through LCY. I doubt Flybe will be continuing the route once the RJs have gone to Cityflyer, as they will not have the eqipment to operate it.

So could we still see the continuation of the LCY-MAD-BHX-MAD-LCY rotation? After all they have got to find something to do with all the airframes.
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Old 25th Jan 2007, 10:34
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It looks like BA Cityflyer is only going to concentrate on LCY to begin with so i would imagine any such existing route goes to BE.

IOM - LCY would be profitable, but the BE 146 deal is IOM - LGW so why would a wholly seperate subsidiary pay attention to BE. And are RBS really that involved??
 
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I reaaly don't think the RBS are that deeply involved that they would have a say in such things however it is possible. As for the MAD-BHX as far as I'm aware everthing that Cityflyer does will rotate through London city i.e. out to Madrid, back to city and out to somehwere else so all the european stuff out of BHX that's part of a tour will go to BE.
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Old 25th Jan 2007, 13:58
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The EM of today might not be able to get debts of that much, an i don't know where that figure came from but its still the same company that had dorniers and rj's galore to places like BRS with only 2 pax on board.
 
Old 25th Jan 2007, 22:05
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The rumour going around the UK regions is that BA Cityflyer will take over all BA's UK domestic services.
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Old 25th Jan 2007, 22:19
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40m owed to RBS! Lol, I can safely say that's not true .

There are no large loans outstanding with RBSGrp for EuroManx.

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Old 25th Jan 2007, 22:28
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That'll be annoying. I'll have to explain to people that I used to fly for the real CityFlyer and not this new shambles.
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Old 26th Jan 2007, 09:03
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Originally Posted by TURIN View Post
The rumour going around the UK regions is that BA Cityflyer will take over all BA's UK domestic services.
The rumour going around the UK regions is that ...........(insert latest BA airline) will take over all BA's UK domestic services.

Same thing happened when BA Connect was launched.
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Old 26th Jan 2007, 14:52
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Its good to see them using The Cityflyer name again and I also used to work for the original CFE @ LGW !
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Old 30th Jan 2007, 21:53
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Apparently people have been withdrawing their applications faster than ever.........BRAL style management techniques!
 
Old 31st Jan 2007, 09:12
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BA CityFlyer - same inept management, same decrepit aircraft, same prospective life-span - about 2 years tops!

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Old 31st Jan 2007, 16:10
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Cabin Crew LCY

Do they or will they have Cabin Crew based at LCY or LGW, any advice or help would be appreciated.
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Old 31st Jan 2007, 16:27
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Apparently cabin crew to be based at both airports
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Old 31st Jan 2007, 17:37
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Originally Posted by FlyboyUK View Post
What about routes like the MAD-BHX?
At the moment the route is part of a touring pattern through LCY. I doubt Flybe will be continuing the route once the RJs have gone to Cityflyer, as they will not have the eqipment to operate it.
So could we still see the continuation of the LCY-MAD-BHX-MAD-LCY rotation? After all they have got to find something to do with all the airframes.
Hence the pending announcement of two more LCY routes that has been reported - as yet unknown to where.
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Old 1st Feb 2007, 18:58
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Actually Cfe @ LGW was profitable and existed for more than 2 years and was bought by BA for 70 million . I wonder what routes will disappear from LGW to LCY ?
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Old 2nd Feb 2007, 16:20
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About the only thing mainline didn't totally trash from the original CFE was the name. Seems that with the proposed management they are intent to do just that and finish the job off.
Isn't it a little ironic the CS former CFE is now FD and Deputy CEO at Flybe ??bet he is already rubbing his hands together ready for another RE screw up and the countless opportunities this will present them with, not least of which will be what can they can cart off for free again when he has.
So much for WW's reputation for being astute if he can't find better than he has.

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