I was affectionately refering to BA CityFlyer which was a well run profit making outfit until we got to grips with it. I cannot recall any airline / outfit that we have spawned / bought / modified that we can actually boast of that has been a great success. Before you mention 'Go' most of us forget that it had a blank cheque when it started up and BA's finance behind it. I agree with Skipness, at present, as I said there are far greater problems aside from LHR there is LGW which is beset with financial woes far greater than new a/c for LCY.