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Just had an annual development meeting in work. Lots of things discussed including a new 10 year development plan for the Terminals and Airfield but as these are still in the early planning stages, it is probably best not to discuss the proposals at this time. All I will say is, massive overhauls are planned for the T1 piers and also for T3. What I can tell you for definate is, as of July, the current outbound control in T3 will be closed permanently and the new domestic security area will be extended and all T3 departing passengers will use this.
With regards to routes, I have the following information. Oasis Hong Kong have been in town and had several discussions with the airport. At the minute talks are ongoing and the management say the chances of a June launch are 50/50. Elsewhere, EZY have specified they want to operate from T3 but the airport have currently been unable to allocate them this terminal as it will require another airline moving out. And WW are stalling over the announcement of new routes because of lack of slot availability at the proposed destinations. Unfortunately, which destinations they are looking to launch was not disclosed.
Thats all for now.
ZB.
With regards to routes, I have the following information. Oasis Hong Kong have been in town and had several discussions with the airport. At the minute talks are ongoing and the management say the chances of a June launch are 50/50. Elsewhere, EZY have specified they want to operate from T3 but the airport have currently been unable to allocate them this terminal as it will require another airline moving out. And WW are stalling over the announcement of new routes because of lack of slot availability at the proposed destinations. Unfortunately, which destinations they are looking to launch was not disclosed.
Thats all for now.
ZB.
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Does anyone know why its so busy tonight, i mean it must be very as i live right near lpool airport and can see loads of planes coming over and sacking up,they then swoop round and head back to MAN, i looked on the website and indeed its a very busy time,there not going LPL.why they coming this far?
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GB are in T3 and I would assume EZY will contine in T3 from March.
Therefore why do they wish to go to a Terminal they are already in or is it a case that if and when they decide expand perhaps next winter T3 is where they want to stay but there isn't the capacity to take expansion until someone moves out. No new routes then until this problem resolved which isn't likely to be soon. In fact isn't it a question that there isn't enough capacity ( gates that is) at the right time at any terminal and only T2 has some room for more PAX. MAPLC should have gone ahead with T2 expansion as they planned and announced over a year ago.
On another topic does anyone know why the C0 flights to WAW from APRIL in the morning depart one hour and five minutes before the A/C arrives from GDN.
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Therefore why do they wish to go to a Terminal they are already in or is it a case that if and when they decide expand perhaps next winter T3 is where they want to stay but there isn't the capacity to take expansion until someone moves out. No new routes then until this problem resolved which isn't likely to be soon. In fact isn't it a question that there isn't enough capacity ( gates that is) at the right time at any terminal and only T2 has some room for more PAX. MAPLC should have gone ahead with T2 expansion as they planned and announced over a year ago.
On another topic does anyone know why the C0 flights to WAW from APRIL in the morning depart one hour and five minutes before the A/C arrives from GDN.
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Don't know the answer to your question with regards to C0, but the slot handback deadline was today so we may have answer shortly - maybe they are hpoing for a rejig of their slots, but that might annoy a few people who have already booked!!
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EZY have yet to be assigned a terminal but the idea was to place them in T1 to help take some of the pressure off T3 at peak times. However EZY have requested that they want T3. The airport have not said no to this request but they are looking at ways to reduce the peak throughput in T3 before they confirm that EZY will operate from here. Eventually it is true that all LCC's will be based in T3, as generally this is where they want to be because of the close proximity to the runway. FR will be staying put in T1 for now but I believe one of the conditions of them expanding from MAN is that they move to T3 at some point. As I said in my previous post, there are huge expansion plans to be implemented over the next 5-10 years across the whole airport site. T3 will see a major overhaul in which the size of the terminal will be doubled and my reckoning being that it will just be a cheap, empty shell ideally suited to the LoCo's. This was indeed what Michael O'Leary requested in an interview with the MAG directors last year. Bmi have already shown an interest in moving back to T1 because of the improved facilities the redevelopment will offer. AA will probably follow with a bit of persuasion. Paving the way for T3 to be all Low Cost. It will happen. But not just yet...
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Update - ...and if....
And if Flybe continue to reduce the number of aircraft to be based then there will be even more chance for the LCCs to move to T3.
I hear BE MAY be trimming back to single figures - but IF they use larger aircraft than the 145 in general the number of seats on offer could be similar.
I hear BE MAY be trimming back to single figures - but IF they use larger aircraft than the 145 in general the number of seats on offer could be similar.
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so are you saying MAN wil see more airlines wanting to come here over the years, and huge expansions of the terminal.i dont know were else they could expand too.fingers crossed.
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Seems FlyZB and I were at the same meeting. Exciting develop[ments indeed for the airport, including a brand new pier arrrangement for T1 and extension for T3, though not necessarily in the direction most of tou would imagine!
I got the feeling also that Air Asia didn't seem imminent at all...what did you think FlyZB?
I got the feeling also that Air Asia didn't seem imminent at all...what did you think FlyZB?
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Why would C0 apply for slots for flights if the slots they apply for or get don't fit in with their proposed schedule.
The schedule has been published for sometime now and even they must see that the scheule won't work with the timings they have published, unless there is more to come of which we have no knowledge which I doubt. Further a Departure at 0715 maybe fine for a based or night stopping A/C but not very likely for an incoming A/C on turnround. To Depart at 0715 it would need to arrive at 0630 based on C0 45min whereas at the moment it is not due to arrive until 0820 To Depart at 0715 it would mean a very early start from GDN probably too early. Either the deparure to WAW is going to have to be put back to about 0900 which maybe difficult or the flights canacelled.
We will have to wait and see . In fact thinking back when they first came the initial schedule they published had to be changed.
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Why would C0 apply for slots for flights if the slots they apply for or get don't fit in with their proposed schedule.
The schedule has been published for sometime now and even they must see that the scheule won't work with the timings they have published, unless there is more to come of which we have no knowledge which I doubt. Further a Departure at 0715 maybe fine for a based or night stopping A/C but not very likely for an incoming A/C on turnround. To Depart at 0715 it would need to arrive at 0630 based on C0 45min whereas at the moment it is not due to arrive until 0820 To Depart at 0715 it would mean a very early start from GDN probably too early. Either the deparure to WAW is going to have to be put back to about 0900 which maybe difficult or the flights canacelled.
We will have to wait and see . In fact thinking back when they first came the initial schedule they published had to be changed.
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No news on Air Asia. All has gone quiet on that front. The airport management have made it pretty clear that they anticipate passenger numbers to remain flat for 2008 and any growth will come from the low cost sector. The consolidation of charter carriers won't help passenger figures this year. MAN has identified that short term growth has to come from LCC's. The future proposals highlight this and more information regarding a very exciting project for T3 will be available within the next 6-12 months. I expect long haul services to be developed but at a much slower rate than most would like and this is why the airport has identified the arrival of EZY and growth from FR as a means of improving passenger throughput. The airport is talking to certain long haul carriers regarding routes right now. I can confirm this as definate. Oasis is the current strongest candidate and I can 100% tell you from inside sources that they are seriously considering MAN as we speak.
Vuelo, sounds like you have access to the same information as me. The future proposals for the airport are extremely exciting, particularly the plans for the T1 piers, and for anyone believing that the MAG board are sitting on their a*se watching the airport rust to the ground, I can tell you that you won't get any further from the truth. Watch this space...
Vuelo, sounds like you have access to the same information as me. The future proposals for the airport are extremely exciting, particularly the plans for the T1 piers, and for anyone believing that the MAG board are sitting on their a*se watching the airport rust to the ground, I can tell you that you won't get any further from the truth. Watch this space...
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Sad to say SQ are apparently going back down to 5 x weekly from winter schedule. This time we are losing Wednesday and Friday ex-MAN, the latter being a real PITA for yours truly as it was my main outbound, despite the remote gate hassle.
They are also bringing the departure forward in a few months to about 0920 to connect with the new early SYD flight.
Gutted about losing two weekly flights, loads have been fantastic and yields are the best they've ever been. Even the latest Tuesday and Thursday departures are up over 80% loads. I think this finally puts to bed any 10 x weekly and 77W rumours.
This bloody airport's cursed for decent long haul options...
They are also bringing the departure forward in a few months to about 0920 to connect with the new early SYD flight.
Gutted about losing two weekly flights, loads have been fantastic and yields are the best they've ever been. Even the latest Tuesday and Thursday departures are up over 80% loads. I think this finally puts to bed any 10 x weekly and 77W rumours.
This bloody airport's cursed for decent long haul options...
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Not good news about losing the daily SQ for the second time in as many years.
High fuel costs, relative lack of higher yield traffic and faltering economies worldwide do make marginal routes like MAN look rather shaky for a legacy carrier such as SQ...... still lets hope things stay stable enough for SQ to keep up with the 5x weekly from the winter
High fuel costs, relative lack of higher yield traffic and faltering economies worldwide do make marginal routes like MAN look rather shaky for a legacy carrier such as SQ...... still lets hope things stay stable enough for SQ to keep up with the 5x weekly from the winter
