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Not sure what the rules are with regards to continuing onto a new thread so I'll hang fire, but can someone please consider starting up a Manchester 6 thread! This is becoming to pain to load up/find posts! Cheers 
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New Tower
From the airport website - confirmation of plans for the new tower, to be in service by the end of 2009.
"Manchester Airport is to get a new £8 million Air Traffic Control tower.
Architects from around across the north west, UK and European Union, have been invited to put their names forward to be considered for the opportunity to design the new control tower.
The new structure will be built on the airfield to allow the air traffic controllers even better views of both runways and is expected to be more than 50 metres tall making it the highest structure at the Airport.
In the first stage of the process, the project to build a new tower has been published in the Official Journal of the European Union inviting architects to show an expression of interest in the scheme. A project team from the airport will now narrow down the field of applicants and choose a design and construction firm to lead the development.
The new tower will be home to the Air Traffic Control team at Manchester Airport, which is provided by NATS, the company that operates air traffic control services throughout the UK. It will be fitted with state-of-the-art air traffic control management systems to help the air traffic controllers manage current and future capacity.
Manchester Airport’s Director of Operations, Andrew Holl, said: “The current control tower has served the airport well since it was built over 45 years ago.
“However, we do need to build a new tower with the latest technology and closer to both our runways to cope with increased numbers of flights in and out of Manchester and this is the start of a process to find the right design and the right experts to do that for us.”
The new control tower is expected to be open for use towards the end of 2009."
"Manchester Airport is to get a new £8 million Air Traffic Control tower.
Architects from around across the north west, UK and European Union, have been invited to put their names forward to be considered for the opportunity to design the new control tower.
The new structure will be built on the airfield to allow the air traffic controllers even better views of both runways and is expected to be more than 50 metres tall making it the highest structure at the Airport.
In the first stage of the process, the project to build a new tower has been published in the Official Journal of the European Union inviting architects to show an expression of interest in the scheme. A project team from the airport will now narrow down the field of applicants and choose a design and construction firm to lead the development.
The new tower will be home to the Air Traffic Control team at Manchester Airport, which is provided by NATS, the company that operates air traffic control services throughout the UK. It will be fitted with state-of-the-art air traffic control management systems to help the air traffic controllers manage current and future capacity.
Manchester Airport’s Director of Operations, Andrew Holl, said: “The current control tower has served the airport well since it was built over 45 years ago.
“However, we do need to build a new tower with the latest technology and closer to both our runways to cope with increased numbers of flights in and out of Manchester and this is the start of a process to find the right design and the right experts to do that for us.”
The new control tower is expected to be open for use towards the end of 2009."
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From UK Airport News a couple of days ago. An interesting final sentence.....
Suzeman
Manchester Airport is using business intelligence software to help increase passengers spending in its shops, in order to replace revenue lost in landing fees because of the rise of low-cost airlines.
Lower landing fees for budget airlines, coupled with stricter security measures that reduce passengers' time in retail outlets, has hit the airports' margins. So the airport is now analysing retail data to determine spending trends and boost sales at airside shops.
Manchester Airport information services business consultant, Martin Bell, said retail data is valuable, but previous reporting methods were disparate and manual. He said: 'We are a data-rich company but were not using the information effectively. By consolidating the data into a single view, we can get a better insight into our passengers and make better business decisions.'
Analysing aviation data remains the priority. But combining it with retail and airport parking information gives a clearer view of passenger purchasing decisions, Bell said. He added: 'Now we can determine how long people spend airside and make more informed decisions on how we manage our retail area.'
'Airports have traditionally regarded retail as secondary to aviation, but we are under pressure because of the rise of low-cost carriers and we realise that we need to be more imaginative.'
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The airport wants to tag and track every single passenger from as far away as possible (car park? train? remote check in? home check in?) right to the gate, with every move along the way - check in, security, which shops you visit in which order, the toilets, etc. They'll use an RFID tag in your ticket or boarding card to do it, with hundreds of readers all over the site, hidden in ceilings or behind walls.
If you fart, they'll know about it.
Will it cure the massive cures at security, or the dirty tables in the cafes, or the big holes in the apron? Will it make the staff genuinely engage in delivering decent customer service rather than make passengers feel they're an inconvenience? I wonder.
If you fart, they'll know about it.
Will it cure the massive cures at security, or the dirty tables in the cafes, or the big holes in the apron? Will it make the staff genuinely engage in delivering decent customer service rather than make passengers feel they're an inconvenience? I wonder.
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BAA have FINALLY been forced to charge more relevant charges at STN
it may just be paper talk but apparently RYR and EZY are now looking to get out as most routes become uneconomic !
Any chance of moving some up here to MAN.....it's a lot of jets to find a home for..!
Also wonder how it will effect, the proposed new AA services if they have to pay full landing fees..?
Maybe STN will drop back behind MAN in terms of pax...?
it may just be paper talk but apparently RYR and EZY are now looking to get out as most routes become uneconomic !
Any chance of moving some up here to MAN.....it's a lot of jets to find a home for..!
Also wonder how it will effect, the proposed new AA services if they have to pay full landing fees..?
Maybe STN will drop back behind MAN in terms of pax...?
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Swiss
Swiss are to operate a service to GVA during ski season on Sunday. Showing on OAG
Also an additional service to BSL on Sunday. This is not yet showing but reported on another thread
Viscount
Also an additional service to BSL on Sunday. This is not yet showing but reported on another thread
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Anyone explain the discepancy in passenger figures for August ?? Was it really just up or just down? Are CAA and MAN figures looking at the same categories of passengers?
Any explanation gratefully received.
Suzeman
Any explanation gratefully received.
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Not really checked the comparisons between the CAA and MAN recently, but they've nearly always disagreed. Perhaps it's the transfer traffic that MAN includes but the CAA excludes?
Anyway, EK = 90% loads in August if my sums are correct.
Anyway, EK = 90% loads in August if my sums are correct.
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Stats for August
As stated these are provisional stats fromthe CAA. Their full stats are not released for a couple of months, however you are right these don't show transit pax. The provisional lists are updated over a period as some airports have not filed their numbers yet and also some routes i.e Ercan only show up in the provisional lists rather than the full lists.
On a different track the Virgin West Coast effect seems to be bottoming out as the provisional totals give a drop of a couple of thousands rather than the tens of thousands over recent months.
Andrew
On a different track the Virgin West Coast effect seems to be bottoming out as the provisional totals give a drop of a couple of thousands rather than the tens of thousands over recent months.
Andrew
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On a different track the Virgin West Coast effect seems to be bottoming out as the provisional totals give a drop of a couple of thousands rather than the tens of thousands over recent months.
Can I give a comment on this? As a train driver, although not for VWC, the prices charged for peak hours arrival at Euston are prohibitive for the majority of travellers. First class has less personal space than the normal business class on short haul flights. The 'free' food is of a standard lower than an economy charter flight. With the continuing upgrade of the Trent Valley lines there are often long stretches of track subject to speed restrictions, these lead to longer delays when approaching the bottlenecks near Euston.
If you are not responsible for paying for your journey then a flight to LHR or even STN with its good rail links would make sense. Given there could be available slots at Manchester do you think a dedicated business class flight to either would prove popular? I was thinking of the one class concept. Surely they could undercut VWC and provide complimentary onward transport by rail.
The Virgin first class return fare is £377. To arrive in Euston before 0900 the latest departure would be 0602.
Even a LoCo carrier must fall over at the prospect of an aircraft full of punters at £200 return.
Maybe I'm just being naive.
Can I give a comment on this? As a train driver, although not for VWC, the prices charged for peak hours arrival at Euston are prohibitive for the majority of travellers. First class has less personal space than the normal business class on short haul flights. The 'free' food is of a standard lower than an economy charter flight. With the continuing upgrade of the Trent Valley lines there are often long stretches of track subject to speed restrictions, these lead to longer delays when approaching the bottlenecks near Euston.
If you are not responsible for paying for your journey then a flight to LHR or even STN with its good rail links would make sense. Given there could be available slots at Manchester do you think a dedicated business class flight to either would prove popular? I was thinking of the one class concept. Surely they could undercut VWC and provide complimentary onward transport by rail.
The Virgin first class return fare is £377. To arrive in Euston before 0900 the latest departure would be 0602.
Even a LoCo carrier must fall over at the prospect of an aircraft full of punters at £200 return.
Maybe I'm just being naive.
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GB Airways
Does anyone know if GB plan any further expansion at MAN?
Also it was indicated on a previous post that a MAN-MAD route is to be started, any info when and who will operate it?
Also it was indicated on a previous post that a MAN-MAD route is to be started, any info when and who will operate it?
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No wonder there are delays at security, as the boarding card inspection "operatives" in T3 at the entrance to scanning, are now wishing to inspect passports as well.
Reason....well after having your passport checked at check-in by the airline, you have to form a queue to get into security and you could have changed places with the person who checked in and we want to see ID.
Reason....well after having your passport checked at check-in by the airline, you have to form a queue to get into security and you could have changed places with the person who checked in and we want to see ID.
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With an out and back the same day for £172 and good flight times Virgin should start to take notice but I'm afraid their arrogance over pricing structures means they will not. I see many VWC/VXC trains carrying little more than fresh air due to their walk on fares.
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But at least the train doesn't require preposterous amounts of time for check in and security, and the rail stations at both ends are in the city centres not miles outside.
And the best way to get from Manchester City Centre to MAN? The train...
And the best way to get from Manchester City Centre to MAN? The train...