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Just going back to the earlier discussion about airlines previously serving MAN I'd forgotten about BG
Out of interest can anybody confirm the exact reason for their pull out? Was it naff loads or more to do with operational reasons ie they can't stretch their aging DC-10's to additional European points except London and Rome?
I would have thought MAN would have been easily able to sustain a service to Dhaka just as it can to Islamabad, Karachi and Lahore as Manchester traditionally has quite strong socio-economic links to that part of the world.
Out of interest can anybody confirm the exact reason for their pull out? Was it naff loads or more to do with operational reasons ie they can't stretch their aging DC-10's to additional European points except London and Rome?
I would have thought MAN would have been easily able to sustain a service to Dhaka just as it can to Islamabad, Karachi and Lahore as Manchester traditionally has quite strong socio-economic links to that part of the world.
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BG pull out DC10 related
Was the BG pull off from European points inlcuding MAN not due to DC10 reliability?
Think they were losing shedloads on operating the old a/c to European points other than LHR
Think they were losing shedloads on operating the old a/c to European points other than LHR
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Most of the most talented staff at MAPLC left to work at LPL some years ago anyway.
Perhaps LPL should take over running MAN as well, as east and west terminals of GB's premier North West airport complex?
Perhaps LPL should take over running MAN as well, as east and west terminals of GB's premier North West airport complex?
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Interesting to see Manchester is now showing as a planned destination on the Oasis Hong Kong website along with a couple of other European destinations. Anybody heard anything about this or do we think it might turn out to be another Thai..... a bit of lip service and no action?!
Could be a smart move if they did jump on the HKG run as CX is stuck waiting for approval for its "holy grail" Moscow stop on its proposed service instead of biting the bullet and sending in a non-stop A340......
Could be a smart move if they did jump on the HKG run as CX is stuck waiting for approval for its "holy grail" Moscow stop on its proposed service instead of biting the bullet and sending in a non-stop A340......
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MAN Guy - now that's a turn up for the books..... they certainly took their time!
In respect of airlines which once served MAN, it's not always indicative of 'loss' that services sometimes don't stay. MK for example had good loads up front on their 767s, but they had limited resources (aircraft) and ultimately more profitable places to send them (it was Munich, I remember). In the case of South African, since 1991, it's quit most of its European destinations and retrenched into just four, LHR, CDG, FRA and soon will operate to Munich for the second time (did I just say Munich again?!).
In respect of airlines which once served MAN, it's not always indicative of 'loss' that services sometimes don't stay. MK for example had good loads up front on their 767s, but they had limited resources (aircraft) and ultimately more profitable places to send them (it was Munich, I remember). In the case of South African, since 1991, it's quit most of its European destinations and retrenched into just four, LHR, CDG, FRA and soon will operate to Munich for the second time (did I just say Munich again?!).
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Manguy, had the chance to travel back from Stansted on the Air Berlin service in early September, load was around 90 pax , Flight was by an A320, excellent service,clean aircraft and on time.Cost was 20 quid one way including taxes and charges! although I did book in June.Thought the flight times for this service were quite reasonable if you were on business,morning departure from Manchester and tea time arrival from Stansted.
I think the reason for the axing of this service was something to do with the increase in charges imposed by Baa.One of the main reasons what Ryanair have been kicking up a fuss about....but pull Ryan out of Stansted and who have you got flying there apart from Easyjet and a few two bob bit foreign carriers??Also the reason I have been told why Fedex have pulled their service and transfered to Manchester.One
Oasis Hong Kong....Bring em on! that's what I say....about time somebody showed some balls and take a lead over Cathay who decided to route all their pax on Shuttles and have'nt got the Balls to fly into Man Direct.
I think the reason for the axing of this service was something to do with the increase in charges imposed by Baa.One of the main reasons what Ryanair have been kicking up a fuss about....but pull Ryan out of Stansted and who have you got flying there apart from Easyjet and a few two bob bit foreign carriers??Also the reason I have been told why Fedex have pulled their service and transfered to Manchester.One
Oasis Hong Kong....Bring em on! that's what I say....about time somebody showed some balls and take a lead over Cathay who decided to route all their pax on Shuttles and have'nt got the Balls to fly into Man Direct.
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What stage is the T1 redevelopment upto ATM?
Not been through MAN for ages.... (LPL instead.... boo.... hiss....!)
Where will the entry to the security point be? Also.... MAPLC seem keen to improve the link between T1 and T3... how are they planning on doing it?
Also.... Are they still planning on building the Sat pier for T2 .....? Or is that gone now Pax figures are falling?
According the the MAPLC master plan... we are due 30m pax by 2015..... will that ever happen with the recent pax figure drops?
Sorry to say.... but MAN needs a decent LCC... FR would be perfect..... If they based a few AC.... we would be back on track.
MAPLC must do something...... the place is stagnant!
Not been through MAN for ages.... (LPL instead.... boo.... hiss....!)
Where will the entry to the security point be? Also.... MAPLC seem keen to improve the link between T1 and T3... how are they planning on doing it?
Also.... Are they still planning on building the Sat pier for T2 .....? Or is that gone now Pax figures are falling?
According the the MAPLC master plan... we are due 30m pax by 2015..... will that ever happen with the recent pax figure drops?
Sorry to say.... but MAN needs a decent LCC... FR would be perfect..... If they based a few AC.... we would be back on track.
MAPLC must do something...... the place is stagnant!
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Gleno
You paid less than a tenner plus tax, the plane was half full on a A320 and you think they pulled it because of BAA put up their charges.
Stop talking out of your a***
You paid less than a tenner plus tax, the plane was half full on a A320 and you think they pulled it because of BAA put up their charges.
Stop talking out of your a***
Oasis
MAN GUY, if you read the Oasis web site & future plans, it becomes obvious that Berlin, Cologne, Milan, San Fran, Chicago are all ahead of Manchester.
Come back in 15 years & see how far we have moved up the queue.
Come back in 15 years & see how far we have moved up the queue.
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Cheshirerooms I'm not sure FR is the answer for MAN, do we really want them on board to see off the likes of SK, AY and LH. We've recently lost enough routes through the locost revolution and in some of cases we've been left high and dry with no service at all, MAD and TXL/SXF springing to mind.
I think MAPLC should be courting the mainline operators or their regional affiliates for European growth plans.
I think MAPLC should be courting the mainline operators or their regional affiliates for European growth plans.
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Mr A Tis - no, it doesn't. That part of the website was written about a year ago, MAN has been included since and there's no way of knowing which destinations they'll start in which order.
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You paid less than a tenner plus tax, the plane was half full on a A320 and you think they pulled it because of BAA put up their charges.
Stop talking out of your a***
Oh and you are privvy to the yield factors ????
Stop talking out of your a***
Oh and you are privvy to the yield factors ????
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Well I believe BA could have worked in the regions had there been support from the BA top brass, but the fact is they simply didn't want it to work as they had bigger fish to fry ie LHR. Why shouldn't MAPLC want to talk to the likes Austrian Arrows, Air Nostrum and Swiss if it means getting services back to VIE, MAD and a decent offering to GVA? (although I believe Swiss are operating GVA weekly this winter)
Seriously, the last thing MAN needs right now is for Ryanair to muscle in and wipe out what mainline European stuff we have left and replace it all with services to airports 50 miles plus from the nearest city.
Seriously, the last thing MAN needs right now is for Ryanair to muscle in and wipe out what mainline European stuff we have left and replace it all with services to airports 50 miles plus from the nearest city.
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It's precisely what Jet2 have done; for the first time that I can remember MAN is left with just one carrier to AMS (from January as far as we know), and we all know what's happened to the rest. I agree sometimes with the prophesies of doom that Momentary Lapse spreads, but it really is circumstantial that this winter is going to be somewhat quiet. I think MAN can expect some pretty hefty traffic reductions up until March 08, but it won't last forever. (Brace yourselves!)
As far as those over-inflated growth forceasts are concerned, MAN really needs serious additions to medium and long-haul to make up the numbers, and we're probably about 5 years away from seeing the effects of that.
As far as those over-inflated growth forceasts are concerned, MAN really needs serious additions to medium and long-haul to make up the numbers, and we're probably about 5 years away from seeing the effects of that.
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Wellington Bomber ........ not talking out of my Ar4e!! Going off what people have told me!! and by the way the route is normally operated by a pig 700.......if you don't know what one of them is, it's a B737-700!!!
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GLENO
Are you sure that Fedex has pulled out of STN? I thought the MD-11 flight from MAN was as well as the STN flight. FDX used to have quite a lot of infrastructure at STN but I haven't been down there for a while as my Essex visa expired some time ago........
And there's always a possibility that what people have told you is a load of cobblers......
Suzeman
Are you sure that Fedex has pulled out of STN? I thought the MD-11 flight from MAN was as well as the STN flight. FDX used to have quite a lot of infrastructure at STN but I haven't been down there for a while as my Essex visa expired some time ago........
And there's always a possibility that what people have told you is a load of cobblers......
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Males Garage to close - end of an era?
Called into Males Garage yesterday afternoon and was told that the company will be closing by the end of the year.
This is due to a cumpulsory purchase order placed by the airport on the company - as part of the planned development of Terminal.
Despite the past development of the original 1960's terminal, Males continued to operate and provided a very useful service to airport employees, and local residents, wanting their cars serviced and MOT checked.
This will be one of the last of the 'old' buildings that has survived the expansion of the airport. I just hope that the authority will not delay too long in commencing work on the new apron area.
To those who worked at Males - thanks for your service. and I hope you find alternative employment soon.
This is due to a cumpulsory purchase order placed by the airport on the company - as part of the planned development of Terminal.
Despite the past development of the original 1960's terminal, Males continued to operate and provided a very useful service to airport employees, and local residents, wanting their cars serviced and MOT checked.
This will be one of the last of the 'old' buildings that has survived the expansion of the airport. I just hope that the authority will not delay too long in commencing work on the new apron area.
To those who worked at Males - thanks for your service. and I hope you find alternative employment soon.
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Most of the most talented staff at MAPLC left to work at LPL some years ago anyway.
Perhaps LPL should take over running MAN as well, as east and west terminals of GB's premier North West airport complex?
Perhaps LPL should take over running MAN as well, as east and west terminals of GB's premier North West airport complex?
