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Mixed fortunes.........
Firstly to say that the Libyan Cargo is, according to my source, initially only for the month of October. Hopefully it may continue for a longer period.
Secondly it is regretable to here that Luxair are to discontinue their service at the end of October. Personally I am surprised that the service has lasted as long as it has, as the figures have been getting worse and worse on a monthly basis. Timings certainly are not good for the businessman and I am sure that they have been hit by the VLM service - albeit with a stop at LCY.
So we loose another carrier, but hopefully do not loose the passengers to any where else (no competition). LOT go, and are partially replaced by Centralwings. Sky Europe come off Krakow and are replaced by Centralwings - who I understand will shortly announce a 3 times weekly service to Poznan.
Okay, so Manchester does not offer 20 flights per week to Poland, but we will be offering 10 a week.
Secondly it is regretable to here that Luxair are to discontinue their service at the end of October. Personally I am surprised that the service has lasted as long as it has, as the figures have been getting worse and worse on a monthly basis. Timings certainly are not good for the businessman and I am sure that they have been hit by the VLM service - albeit with a stop at LCY.
So we loose another carrier, but hopefully do not loose the passengers to any where else (no competition). LOT go, and are partially replaced by Centralwings. Sky Europe come off Krakow and are replaced by Centralwings - who I understand will shortly announce a 3 times weekly service to Poznan.
Okay, so Manchester does not offer 20 flights per week to Poland, but we will be offering 10 a week.
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How many of them 34 flights a week form Liverpool and 10 from Manchester will be full???? anybody else think that there is a bit too much traffic??
Anybody know when Bmibaby's summer routes go on sale from Manchester?
Anybody know when Bmibaby's summer routes go on sale from Manchester?
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Does anyone know when BE will start basing E195 at Man and how many. I thought the first was to arrive this month but nothing showing up as yet as to the routes they will operate
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viscount702 - the .21% decline is due to contraction of London routes and also the loss of some BA/BE routes, and I would have expected a far greater drop, had it not been for people trying to get away from the bloody dreadful summer we've all just had to suffer.
Hopefully we'll now start to see MAN passenger figures levelling off, and I wouldn't expect them to grow significantly for at least a couple of years.....it largely depends on the 'Liverpool effect' and there are plenty of expansion opportunities there.
Whether or not MAN should now embrace FR and EZY is another matter!
Hopefully we'll now start to see MAN passenger figures levelling off, and I wouldn't expect them to grow significantly for at least a couple of years.....it largely depends on the 'Liverpool effect' and there are plenty of expansion opportunities there.
Whether or not MAN should now embrace FR and EZY is another matter!
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i know that Wizzair ex LPL have had some exceptional loads recorded .... though i do think 34 flts a week between wizzair, ryanair and easyjet is somewhat over egging the pudding ..... i expect it to level off soon after after the competition kicks in. Swap you five of them for a twice a day to LHR. ;-)
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Another cargo snippet...but maybe this is just a one off ?
There is a Qatar A300-600F due tonight eta 2000 etd 2100 (QTR6056).
Anyone know anymore about its visit ?
There is a Qatar A300-600F due tonight eta 2000 etd 2100 (QTR6056).
Anyone know anymore about its visit ?
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After reading through recent posts, some updates:
Firstly regarding the terminals. All toilets across the 3 terminals are just about to be completely stripped out and remodelled (about time I hear you cheer!) Lets face it, they need doing! The work will be carried out in order with the most heavily used toilets being done first. Don't know about T1 & 3 but in T2, the arrivals loo's and those at Gates 211 and Immigration will be first on the list.
Work will start on the T2 retail and security development this month. The Atlantic Suite is now closed and all conference facilities will be moved over to the new airport hotel which is being built close to the existing Travelodge.
Approval has been given to revamp the T1 and T2 arrivals areas. Work on these will commence as soon as the departures redevelopment is near completion. The plans will be confirmed at a later date but I understand Spar, Boots and possibly M&S Simply Food will move into the arrivals halls.
Now some airline news/rumours. A cabin crew member I know who works for Jet2 reckons that there are still flights to be released for this winter, so anything that doesn't yet appear bookable on their website may not neccessarily have been dropped.
ZB have their Summer 2008 programme on sale. MJV goes daily and TFS increases to 9 x weekly. Looks like XRY has been dropped and IBZ is reduced to 3 x weekly. Although these flights are bookable, there has been no official announcement about MAN flights on their website so perhaps they are still tweaking the schedules.
And bmibaby should have their S08 flights on sale at the end of the month. Rumour is that they'll be acquiring additional aircraft for next summer so fingers crossed some new routes come to MAN and they don't just focus on BHX again.
Firstly regarding the terminals. All toilets across the 3 terminals are just about to be completely stripped out and remodelled (about time I hear you cheer!) Lets face it, they need doing! The work will be carried out in order with the most heavily used toilets being done first. Don't know about T1 & 3 but in T2, the arrivals loo's and those at Gates 211 and Immigration will be first on the list.
Work will start on the T2 retail and security development this month. The Atlantic Suite is now closed and all conference facilities will be moved over to the new airport hotel which is being built close to the existing Travelodge.
Approval has been given to revamp the T1 and T2 arrivals areas. Work on these will commence as soon as the departures redevelopment is near completion. The plans will be confirmed at a later date but I understand Spar, Boots and possibly M&S Simply Food will move into the arrivals halls.
Now some airline news/rumours. A cabin crew member I know who works for Jet2 reckons that there are still flights to be released for this winter, so anything that doesn't yet appear bookable on their website may not neccessarily have been dropped.
ZB have their Summer 2008 programme on sale. MJV goes daily and TFS increases to 9 x weekly. Looks like XRY has been dropped and IBZ is reduced to 3 x weekly. Although these flights are bookable, there has been no official announcement about MAN flights on their website so perhaps they are still tweaking the schedules.
And bmibaby should have their S08 flights on sale at the end of the month. Rumour is that they'll be acquiring additional aircraft for next summer so fingers crossed some new routes come to MAN and they don't just focus on BHX again.
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It's all very well saying MAN should embrace FR and EZY, presumably encouraging them to leave LPL. All that change, waste and duplication for little or no increase in capacity to/from Northern England. Change for change's sake.
Do FR's and EZY's passengers want to move from LPL to MAN? From a nice easy flat terminal to one where the car parks are miles away, there are loads of level changes and it's miles from check-in to the gate, not to mention the queues.
Why?
Just so MAN can increase its passenger numbers. It won't increase its profits because there's little profit per passenger from loco pax, because:
1 They're intra-European passengers, so there's no Duty Free revenue.
2 They'll be mostly off-peak departures, so the passenger charges will be low
3 Loco pax are more price-conscious than say charter passengers, and they travel light, so they won't spend much in the shops, cafes and bars, and certainly won't spend on high-return items like electricals or booze n fags because they're too bulky or heavy, and they can get them cheaper on the net or in Tesco anyway.
So more congestion for decreased profit per passenger. Hardly a good business decision, is it? The little remaining capacity should be reserved for high-profit long-haul far-east and US routes.
Do FR's and EZY's passengers want to move from LPL to MAN? From a nice easy flat terminal to one where the car parks are miles away, there are loads of level changes and it's miles from check-in to the gate, not to mention the queues.
Why?
Just so MAN can increase its passenger numbers. It won't increase its profits because there's little profit per passenger from loco pax, because:
1 They're intra-European passengers, so there's no Duty Free revenue.
2 They'll be mostly off-peak departures, so the passenger charges will be low
3 Loco pax are more price-conscious than say charter passengers, and they travel light, so they won't spend much in the shops, cafes and bars, and certainly won't spend on high-return items like electricals or booze n fags because they're too bulky or heavy, and they can get them cheaper on the net or in Tesco anyway.
So more congestion for decreased profit per passenger. Hardly a good business decision, is it? The little remaining capacity should be reserved for high-profit long-haul far-east and US routes.
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How many of them 34 flights a week form Liverpool and 10 from Manchester will be full????
The Manchester / Liverpool catchment area is significantly larger than that of Dublin. So less than 50 weekly flights to Poland would seem to me like there's room for expansion.
Ryanair (Dublin to Poland: 38 flights)
Gdansk (3 x weekly)
Szczecin (2 x weekly)
Bydgoszcz (2 x weekly)
Poznan (3 x weekly)
Warsaw (7 x weekly)
Lodz (3 x weekly)
Wroclaw (5 x weekly)
Katowice (3 x weekly)
Krakow (7 x weekly)
Rzeszow (3 x weekly)
Centralwings (Dublin to Poland: 20 flights)
Gdansk (3 x weekly)
Szczecin (3 x weekly)
Warsaw (4 x weekly)
Wroclaw (3 x weekly)
Katowice (4 x weekly)
Krakow (3 x weekly)
Aer Lingus (Dublin to Poland: 16 flights)
Warsaw (6 x weekly)
Poznan (3 x weekly)
Krakow (7 x weekly)
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Anybody know any figures for the routes from Liverpool and Man?
ex Liverpool
GDANSK 5132
KATOWICE 5896
KRAKOW 11665
POZNAN 4049
WARSAW 6850
WROCLAW 3642
total 37234
exMAN
KRAKOW 2955
WARSAW 2900
total 5855
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Provisional July stats show 3186 on MAN-Warsaw (51 flights? 62 per flight which I think is around 80% loads) with this being 28% up on July 2006, and 3342 on MAN-Krakow (26 flights, 128 per flight = 87% loads?)